PSU and TTU should not be #2 and #3

[Spineshank]

Originally posted by: dbk
A bit off topic but why doesn't the big 10 have a championship round? It is because they don't have a even number of teams? I think that would quiet the critics somewhat...

Officially its because the Big Ten only has 11 teams and not 12. You need at least 12 teams to have a conference championship game.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Sadly out of all that Bama's schedule is easily the toughest. I think PSU is way over rated. And ive seen them in action this year too. If OSU played Boeckman instead of Pryor i think OSU would have won.

It's funny you say that, since http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119 lists Texas Tech's Strength of Schedule as 26th toughest, Penn State's at 56th, and Bama's as 59th. So sadly, out of all that, Bama's schedule is mathematically the easiest. Given, this isn't the end all of polls, but I'd argue it probably carries a bit more weight than your quick dismissal of PSU.

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Sadly out of all that Bama's schedule is easily the toughest. I think PSU is way over rated. And ive seen them in action this year too. If OSU played Boeckman instead of Pryor i think OSU would have won.

It's funny you say that, since http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119 lists Texas Tech's Strength of Schedule as 26th toughest, Penn State's at 56th, and Bama's as 59th. So sadly, out of all that, Bama's schedule is mathematically the easiest. Given, this isn't the end all of polls, but I'd argue it probably carries a bit more weight than your quick dismissal of PSU.

So you're defending the math they use in college football, and taking it as absolute?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Uh, didnt TTU just beat Texas, a pretty good team?

What makes texas, or for that matter any team in the big12 good?

All they have done is play each other. None of the teams have defense, so it just makes them look good when they put up 100 points a game.

The best out-of-conference game in the entire conference was mizzou beating a dissapointing illinois team by like 10 points.

The big12 is more overrated than the big10. Oklahoma has lost 4 straight bcs games, two of them NC games. All anyone can remember are the two OSU losses though :roll: Morons.

Who has the SEC played out of conference? I think the best team any SEC team has beat this year is Miami.

Who even cares about this anymore? Look at our BCS bowl record. We don't even need to leave the SEC in order to worry about impressing people anymore. It's the teams in the candy ass conferences like the Big 10 and Pac 10 that need to worry about that.

 

[Spineshank]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Sadly out of all that Bama's schedule is easily the toughest. I think PSU is way over rated. And ive seen them in action this year too. If OSU played Boeckman instead of Pryor i think OSU would have won.

It's funny you say that, since http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119 lists Texas Tech's Strength of Schedule as 26th toughest, Penn State's at 56th, and Bama's as 59th. So sadly, out of all that, Bama's schedule is mathematically the easiest. Given, this isn't the end all of polls, but I'd argue it probably carries a bit more weight than your quick dismissal of PSU.

Yes but thats over all. Not out of conference only.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Spineshank
Sadly out of all that Bama's schedule is easily the toughest. I think PSU is way over rated. And ive seen them in action this year too. If OSU played Boeckman instead of Pryor i think OSU would have won.

It's funny you say that, since http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119 lists Texas Tech's Strength of Schedule as 26th toughest, Penn State's at 56th, and Bama's as 59th. So sadly, out of all that, Bama's schedule is mathematically the easiest. Given, this isn't the end all of polls, but I'd argue it probably carries a bit more weight than your quick dismissal of PSU.

i think he was just talking about those out of conference games listed. and any math that says psu has a tougher schedule than bama needs to be discarded immediately.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: dbk
A bit off topic but why doesn't the big 10 have a championship round? It is because they don't have a even number of teams? I think that would quiet the critics somewhat...

You can't have a championship game until you get 12 teams. That's why the ACC expanded to 12 so that could have a conference championship game.

The Big 10 (little 11) was hoping Notre Dame would join but that never panned out and they've been stuck at 11.

The Big 10 needs to give Notre Dame the boot in all the other sports and get a 12th team.

 

[NeoV]

A few thoughts

I agree the SEC is the best football conference. However - you can't discount Florida's loss this year by saying "they don't lose when they try" LSU isn't nearly as good as they were last year - Georgia may have beaten up Hawaii last year, but don't forget the West Virginia loss the year before. Alabama - let's see how they end up - I wouldn't be surprised at all if LSU beats them this weekend.

Penn St is a good team - they demolished Oregon St - who beat USC, and beating Ohio St in Columbus is no easy feat for any team in the country - and for those people saying OSU would have won if they played their other QB - he would have been sacked about 8 or 9 times, see the USC game tape.

As for Texas Tech - I would be surprised if they finish undefeated - Oklahoma and Ok St are tough games. The biggest problem in the Big 12 is the structure of their divisions - instead of their championship game being the two best teams in the conference, it's going to be one really good team against a middle tier team since the one division is so stacked!

Let's be honest though - Oklahoma's failures in their last two bowl games are at least as bad as Ohio St's - and OSU at least lost to much better teams.

As for scheduling - I give Ohio St a ton of credit for playing home and away series with Texas, USC, and coming up - Miami Fl and Oklahoma - I don't see any of the SEC teams scheduling tough non-conference games - ask Arkansas how that USC game went last year btw. - however, I wouldn't be crazy about scheduling tough non-conference games either with their conference schedules.

Bottom line - teams matchup with other teams, not conferences - if you can't look objectively at other teams/conferences, then just keep your comments to yourself.

As for conference championship games - they only exist to make money - they actually hurt those conferences in terms of National Championships - makes going undefeated that much harder.

My top 15 teams in the country this year:

Florida
USC
Penn St
Alabama
Georgia
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Texas
LSU
Ohio St
Oklahoma St
Utah
Boise St

I think quite frankly there is a significant drop-off after that - TCU is decent, Missouri can't stop anyone defensively, the ACC teams are average, no other Pac 10 teams are worth much, BYU doesn't excite me much...you get the idea.

 

[moparacer]

"and any math that says psu has a tougher schedule than bama needs to be discarded immediately"

Lets see a now known to be Vastly overrated Clemson team, Tulane, Western Kentucky, Arkansas, a now known to be VASTLY overrated Gerogia, Kentucky, and Tennessee team in total disarray, and Arkansas State......

You dispute that #59 SOS??????

lol