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dphantom said:
It may be time to give up on the collusion hoax. Mueller put an arrow through that.

I have faith in the voting public. They can discern right from wrong, what change they want to see and direction we need to go and will do just that in November.
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I take it you never read his report. He didn't put an arrow thru that.. In fact there is no such thing as collusion, it was a term made up by the media to umbrella various crimes that Trump has committed where Russia is concerned. The report didn't say Trump committed no crimes, and so did Muller's testimony. I recommend you read it, or at least read what wasn't redacted out that Trump didn't want us to see.
 
dphantom said:
It may be time to give up on the collusion hoax. Mueller put an arrow through that.

I have faith in the voting public. They can discern right from wrong, what change they want to see and direction we need to go and will do just that in November.
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I dunno. Somehow brexit and the dumb ass in Brazil happened. We also keep getting idiots in office like McConnell and Rand Paul
 
dphantom said:
It may be time to give up on the collusion hoax. Mueller put an arrow through that.

I have faith in the voting public. They can discern right from wrong, what change they want to see and direction we need to go and will do just that in November.
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So you're denying that the Internet Research Agency exists, purely for partisan reasons. And you think that denial of objective reality makes you right. Got it.
 
Vic said:
Everyone knew that Trump was going to be acquitted. That was always a foregone conclusion. The entire purpose of the impeachment was to put the Republican party's hypocrisy on full display for American public. At which it succeeded.
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"Succeeded" would mean that people who before did not know the Republicans were completely full of shit now know.
That is not the case.
 
Vic said:
Everyone knew that Trump was going to be acquitted. That was always a foregone conclusion. The entire purpose of the impeachment was to put the Republican party's hypocrisy on full display for American public. At which it succeeded.
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Agreed. I dont know anyone who thought the R's wouldn't acquit Trump. At this point, #MowcowMitch and his boys will defend this president for anything, including shooting someone in broad daylight.
 
purbeast0 said:
How is this even allowed and acceptable? How the fuck can anyone with half a brain support these dumb fucks?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1225140190920019968
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It does bring up a question, though... why would Romney even bother voting to Impeach to impeach the president, knowing that the effort was doomed to failure even before it got to the Senate?

Sure, he just gained some temporary respect from Democrats and moderates, but those Democrats still aren't going to vote for him come reelection time because they likely still disagree with everything else he stands for. He's really just alienating himself from his supporters, which might come back to haunt him someday.
 
ultimatebob said:
It does bring up a question, though... why would Romney even bother voting to Impeach to impeach the president, knowing that the effort was doomed to failure even before it got to the Senate?

Sure, he just gained some temporary respect from Democrats and moderates, but those Democrats still aren't going to vote for him come reelection time because they likely still disagree with everything else he stands for. He's really just alienating himself from his supporters, which might come back to haunt him someday.
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He's from Utah, Mormons arent Evangelical and have a much harder time swallowing Trump's load.
 
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dphantom said:
It may be time to give up on the collusion hoax. Mueller put an arrow through that.

I have faith in the voting public. They can discern right from wrong, what change they want to see and direction we need to go and will do just that in November.
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It’s concerning to see how effective right wing propaganda is. You do realize that the Mueller report documented extensive collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, right?
 
Well even if Trump got away with it, most of us along with Mitt Romney can be proud we are on the right side. Maybe not the winning side....yet.... but definitely on the right side.
Sometimes the bad guys win, but they don't really win. Not in the end. History has a way of correcting wrong and rewarding right. That is the way it is. It just takes time.

Trump may think he won, republicans may think they won, Mitch McConnell may think he won but they haven't, really.
Just look at them.
Just look at their nakedness.
They squalor in dirt. They cohort with filth. Moral, dignity and self respect have fled them. They are nothing.
Donald Trump is nothing.

Yet... we still have our dignity, our moral compass, our self respect, our patriotism, and a reason to live.
Whereas they live only for the moment, make deals with the devil, and will share no place in history other than in disgrace.
No.... they have not won, we have won.
In all truth we had won from the very beginning.
Always remember that.
Its application will be repeated, many times to come.

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sportage said:
Well even if Trump got away with it, most of us along with Mitt Romney can be proud we are on the right side. Maybe not the winning side....yet.... but definitely on the right side.
Sometimes the bad guys win, but they don't really win. Not in the end. History has a way of correcting wrong and rewarding right. That is the way it is. It just takes time.

Trump may think he won, republicans may think they won, Mitch McConnell may think he won but they haven't, really.
Just look at them.
Just look at their nakedness.
They squalor in dirt. They cohort with filth. Moral, dignity and self respect have fled them. They are nothing.
Donald Trump is nothing.

Yet... we still have our dignity, our moral compass, our self respect, our patriotism, and a reason to live.
Whereas they live only for the moment, make deals with the devil, and will share no place in history other than in disgrace.
No.... they have not won, we have won.
In all truth we had won from the very beginning.
Always remember that.
Its application will be repeated, many times to come.

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Except for when Biden accepts bribes from Ukraine.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Except for when Biden accepts bribes from Ukraine.
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Citation, thanks.
ultimatebob said:
It does bring up a question, though... why would Romney even bother voting to Impeach to impeach the president, knowing that the effort was doomed to failure even before it got to the Senate?

Sure, he just gained some temporary respect from Democrats and moderates, but those Democrats still aren't going to vote for him come reelection time because they likely still disagree with everything else he stands for. He's really just alienating himself from his supporters, which might come back to haunt him someday.
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I really think he's going for a 2024 election campaign, and I think it'll be as a third party that's going to edge out the Republicans. Maybe not in that election, but eventually.
 
Zivic said:
Why not just vote him out in november? seems a much easier approach to handle such an aweful president and human being?
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What happens if Trump allows further hacking by foreign countries that puts the 2020 results in question? Russians already hacked into all 50 state election systems. What if votes are flipped. Trump has already invited countries to interfere IN PUBLIC. What if Trump extorts another country?

You really want to risk that?
 
Each time a right winger posts it reinforces how effective the right wing propaganda machine is.

In the last few posts we've heard that the Mueller report stated no collusion and that Biden took bribes from Ukraine. Both completely and easily verifiably false (and in the case of the Mueller report mountains of evidence to the contrary).

These people do not care about truth or facts. It's all about feels. If it makes them feel good, it's right.
 
ultimatebob said:
It does bring up a question, though... why would Romney even bother voting to Impeach to impeach the president, knowing that the effort was doomed to failure even before it got to the Senate?

Sure, he just gained some temporary respect from Democrats and moderates, but those Democrats still aren't going to vote for him come reelection time because they likely still disagree with everything else he stands for. He's really just alienating himself from his supporters, which might come back to haunt him someday.
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Did it occur to you he did it just because it was the right thing to do? I hold that out as a possibility
 
dphantom said:
It may be time to give up on the collusion hoax. Mueller put an arrow through that.

I have faith in the voting public. They can discern right from wrong, what change they want to see and direction we need to go and will do just that in November.
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Where in the Mueller Report did it state the was no collusion. In fact he stated proving collusion was not a goal of his investigation.

Besides we have our own eyes and ears when it comes to Trump colluding with the Russians. In case you were in a coma it was done in public

"Russia if you're listening"

Within a few hours we all know what happened.
 
blackangst1 said:
After the shitshow of the impeachment in the House, and after the Democrats behavior in the state of the union address (I mean, they cant applaud people who have done better? They just sit there stone cold?), and after Pelosi's tantrum after SoTU...Dems are done. The whole party is a fucking mess. No way they'll win in 2020 elections.
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I find it odd you require a standard of behavior of others you don't require of Trump.

Which side of your mouth wishes to address that?
 
brycejones said:
Link it up. You can do it.
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Put two and two together. You know the truth but your brain is still wired like a primitive caveman. You can't get past the group/tribe rah rah that your neanderthal ancestors passed on to you. Learn to think critically and for yourself then we could possibly have a real conversation. Hard to have one otherwise.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Put two and two together. You know the truth but your brain is still wired like a primitive caveman. You can't get past the group/tribe rah rah that your neanderthal ancestors passed on to you. Learn to think critically and for yourself then we could possibly have a real conversation. Hard to have one otherwise.
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Citation or it doesn't exist. If you are not a troll, you can find a citation.

Otherwise walk away, you aren't going to win this.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Put two and two together. You know the truth but your brain is still wired like a primitive caveman. You can't get past the group/tribe rah rah that your neanderthal ancestors passed on to you. Learn to think critically and for yourself then we could possibly have a real conversation. Hard to have one otherwise.
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Providing evidence for your assertions is one of the basic principles of having a real conversation.

You made a claim, back it up. It’s an entirely reasonable request. If you can’t do it, maybe you should reconsider your position.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Put two and two together. You know the truth but your brain is still wired like a primitive caveman. You can't get past the group/tribe rah rah that your neanderthal ancestors passed on to you. Learn to think critically and for yourself then we could possibly have a real conversation. Hard to have one otherwise.
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So, that's a no then? It's just your fever-dreams and not something for which there's any actual evidence?
 
Joe blow forum dweller comes up with a bullshit theory based on feels only and no evidence whatsoever and tells others to think critically. The irony is too much .. must be a troll because no one has that critically low level of self awareness.
 
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