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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: randumb
You forgot mathematics.
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nothing immediatley comes to mind when I think of the job possiblities for anyone majoring in mathematics, but not proceeding to masters or PhD.

Care to share? I'm curious.
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you can do a lot with a math degree. they are sought after by the brokerage firms for doing bond evaluations and stuff like that

edit. bond evaluations. not bong evaluations 😛
 
Of course you are forgetting the fact that MANY people work in fields that have NOTHING to do with their degree. I have a BS in Psychology (kinda ironic isnt it?) and work in IT.

I learned more about people and dealing with people/coworkers in my classes and learned all the technical stuff on the job, a great situation if I do say so myself.
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Not all degrees are created equal. Don't go to college until you know what you want to do because you will only waste your time and money. Anyone who told you that you should take a bunch of different classes to see what you like is on the take. The only way to find out what you like is to try to get some work experience.

If you graduated college with a BS, didn't go on to grad school and didn't have one of the following words on your degree, you got fooled:

Computer
Engineering
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Engineering
Accounting
Finance
Engineering
Spanish
Education
Statistics
Economics -- Mabye... you had better get good work experience or you'll be SOL without grad school

There may be a few I'm forgetting, but don't tell me that "I forgot marketing" or I'll reach through my internet connection and strangle you.

My sister thinks that she's going to make a living at life taking photos. She's one of the smartest people I know but she may as well announce to the world that she's going to make money by telling people what shapes she sees in the clouds :thumbsdown:

Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

Of course, if she had bothered to try following national politics with no child left behind and rapidly shrinking extra-curricular budgets, she'd already know that the HS plan was stupid. Furthermore, if she had bothered to look at what everyone else is doing, she'd notice that with both parents in the typical household working in the 21st century, that the little demand there is for STUPID majors like PHOTOGRAPHY is going down the toilet at most schools.

I'm so pissed at her...
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Wedding photography? Cha-ching!
 
The goal of a job isn't to make money, if you think about it. The goal of a job is to sustain yourself so that you can have a satisfactory and pleasurable life outside of your work environment. This might sound odd to the OP, but many older and wiser people have said to me that if you don't enjoy your job, its not worth having... no matter how much it pays.

Sure you might not be rolling in it, but if you are content with what little you have, the better your life is. One of the most amazing things is the 65yr old janitor who has been doing janitorial work his whole life because he enjoys it (god knows why.)

People in college and just out of college seem to lose sight of the importance of enjoying what you do, get into jobs they hate (hence the outpouring of hatred towards mankind by the OP), and consequently ruin their lives and the lives of those around them by being the world's negative affects.

Another thing that the OP also forgot is that some of the most successful people in the world don't have more than a HS diploma! I don't think Bill Gates thought "boy I should listen to what acemcmac has to say, and go into one of his *required* fields." Who does this guy think he is 😕

Although the OP *might* end up being successful (in spite of his clear character flaws), he will never be a happy person or be satisfied with anything. If he is willing to call his sister stupid, and get pissed at her, I doubt he will have much respect for anyone he works with.

Congrats to your sister for perusing what she likes to do, and not being a stuck-up jack@$$ like her brother. :thumbsup:

Oh, and you forgot Management.... we are the guys who hire and fire, and tell you engineers what to do. And generaly get payed more too 😉

Don't forget Consulting either.
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I have friends that did their undergrad in biology, they say it's close to useless unless you continue until you have a PhD. Same goes for physics.
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good to know! :thumbsup:
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How about Biotechnology with a minor in CS, I wanna major in that at WPI.
 
Heh.... A friend of mine did wedding photography while he was in college. He is still doing it now while he is working at a loan officer. He gets between 700-1000 a wedding, which pretty much takes him a weekend to do everything (take the pictures, put together albums etc).

If you're so concerned about money, photography isn't the abomination you seem to make it out to be.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

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i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM 😕

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD
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I'll be doing that with my Physics degree, too. Tenure FTW
 
If you graduated college with a BS, didn't go on to grad school and didn't have one of the following words on your degree, you got fooled:

Computer
Engineering
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Engineering
Accounting
Finance
Engineering
Spanish
Education
Statistics
Economics -- Mabye... you had better get good work experience or you'll be SOL without grad school
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Don't have a single one of those words on my degree and my job is probably more important than most any of those.
 
I orginally though of going into computer programming, than realised I enjoy it more as a hobby than anything else. Now I am aiming for a R&D position in the Bio-Engineering field, hopefully in nanotech ( Waterloo Nano-Engineering hopefully 2007.). I think R&D will be something I will enjoy for the next 40 years, whereas I could see hating computer code if I was forced to write it.
 
Originally posted by: acole1
The goal of a job isn't to make money, if you think about it. The goal of a job is to sustain yourself so that you can have a satisfactory and pleasurable life outside of your work environment. This might sound odd to the OP, but many older and wiser people have said to me that if you don't enjoy your job, its not worth having... no matter how much it pays.

Sure you might not be rolling in it, but if you are content with what little you have, the better your life is. One of the most amazing things is the 65yr old janitor who has been doing janitorial work his whole life because he enjoys it (god knows why.)

People in college and just out of college seem to lose sight of the importance of enjoying what you do, get into jobs they hate (hence the outpouring of hatred towards mankind by the OP), and consequently ruin their lives and the lives of those around them by being the world's negative affects.

Another thing that the OP also forgot is that some of the most successful people in the world don't have more than a HS diploma! I don't think Bill Gates thought "boy I should listen to what acemcmac has to say, and go into one of his *required* fields." Who does this guy think he is 😕

Although the OP *might* end up being successful (in spite of his clear character flaws), he will never be a happy person or be satisfied with anything. If he is willing to call his sister stupid, and get pissed at her, I doubt he will have much respect for anyone he works with.

Congrats to your sister for perusing what she likes to do, and not being a stuck-up jack@$$ like her brother. :thumbsup:

Oh, and you forgot Management.... we are the guys who hire and fire, and tell you engineers what to do. And generaly get payed more too 😉

Don't forget Consulting either.
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"Information Sciences and Technology" = "Bullshit artistry" = "IT management and consulting" = $$$ for nothing.
 
i completely and wholeheartedly disagree with the OP.

there are a TON of folks in law school with bachelor's degrees in fields not mentioned on your list...

(i majored in applied mathematics)
 
I dunno, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that of all the degrees held by CEOs of large corporations, the most are in English. Seems like a decent choice to me.
 
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i completely and wholeheartedly disagree with the OP.

there are a TON of folks in law school with bachelor's degrees in fields not mentioned on your list...

(i majored in applied mathematics)
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Isn't law school nicknamed the babysitter of America's children for a reason 😉
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: maziwanka
i completely and wholeheartedly disagree with the OP.

there are a TON of folks in law school with bachelor's degrees in fields not mentioned on your list...

(i majored in applied mathematics)
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Isn't law school nicknamed the babysitter of America's children for a reason 😉
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hahaha. i always referred to it as the ultimate backup plan 🙂
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
I orginally though of going into computer programming, than realised I enjoy it more as a hobby than anything else. Now I am aiming for a R&D position in the Bio-Engineering field, hopefully in nanotech ( Waterloo Nano-Engineering hopefully 2007.). I think R&D will be something I will enjoy for the next 40 years, whereas I could see hating computer code if I was forced to write it.
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Biomedical engineering with specialization in Prosthetics/Orthotics would be interesting and it pays better than most other engineering fields (medical is the field to be in at the moment).
 
Stay away from biology. Most people with a BS in biology get jobs doing menial tasks for little pay. My BS is in Microbiology and many of the jobs around here are in the 20-29k range. And while the theory is really interesting, the actual duties of a job consist of transferring fluid from one test tube to another with a pipette. Complete boredom, and a job you really don't need a college degree to perform. Luckily, I got a student job with the university in the area of distance education. That landed me a salaried position with the university and now they are paying for my Master's (basically adding two years to my education while waiting for my gf to graduate with a degree in chemical engineering). I've already taken the GMATs and plan on doing a concurrent JD/MBA program after I receive my Master's and while my gf gets her MBA.
 
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