PSA: College bound HS Seniors!

acemcmac

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Not all degrees are created equal. Don't go to college until you know what you want to do because you will only waste your time and money. Anyone who told you that you should take a bunch of different classes to see what you like is on the take. The only way to find out what you like is to try to get some work experience.

If you graduated college with a BS, didn't go on to grad school and didn't have one of the following words on your degree, you got fooled:

Computer
Engineering
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Engineering
Accounting
Finance
Engineering
Spanish
Education
Statistics
Economics -- Mabye... you had better get good work experience or you'll be SOL without grad school

There may be a few I'm forgetting, but don't tell me that "I forgot marketing" or I'll reach through my internet connection and strangle you.

My sister thinks that she's going to make a living at life taking photos. She's one of the smartest people I know but she may as well announce to the world that she's going to make money by telling people what shapes she sees in the clouds :thumbsdown:

Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

Of course, if she had bothered to try following national politics with no child left behind and rapidly shrinking extra-curricular budgets, she'd already know that the HS plan was stupid. Furthermore, if she had bothered to look at what everyone else is doing, she'd notice that with both parents in the typical household working in the 21st century, that the little demand there is for STUPID majors like PHOTOGRAPHY is going down the toilet at most schools.

I'm so pissed at her...
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD
 

oogabooga

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Jan 14, 2003
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Are you saying that a degree in economics is worth less then a degree in spanish?



Getting a degree in English = You got fooled.
Getting a degree in Spanish though.... ......
 

acemcmac

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Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
You forgot economics.

I'm an economics minor, but I never got the idea that there was a great demand for it in the workforce unless you got a PhD in it. I just took it on because it was the fastest way to get a minor for me b/c I AP'ed intro macro and intro micro
 

LordMaul

Lifer
Nov 16, 2000
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Majoring in photography can't always be bad. If all else fails, she could become a studio/wedding photographer. Those people make bank, with the right amount of work. Trust me, I work for them.
 

acemcmac

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD

Yeah, but no respectable school district is looking NOT to hire Physics teachers. In fact, I know that most school districts give physics teachers signing bonuses b/c they're so rare. Oh, and I'd loose that private school idea... the pay and benefits are way better at public schools.... also... tenure?

Can you say the same demand exists for art teachers?
 

oogabooga

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Not all degrees are created equal. Don't go to college until you know what you want to do because you will only waste your time and money. Anyone who told you that you should take a bunch of different classes to see what you like is on the take. The only way to find out what you like is to try to get some work experience.

If you graduated college with a BS, didn't go on to grad school and didn't have one of the following words on your degree, you got fooled:

Computer
Engineering
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Engineering
Accounting
Finance
Engineering
Spanish
Education

There may be a few I'm forgetting, but don't tell me that "I forgot marketing" or I'll reach through my internet connection and strangle you.

My sister thinks that she's going to make a living at life taking photos. She's one of the smartest people I know but she may as well announce to the world that she's going to make money by telling people what shapes she sees in the clouds :thumbsdown:

Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

Of course, if she had bothered to try following national politics with no child left behind and rapidly shrinking extra-curricular budgets, she'd already know that the HS plan was stupid. Furthermore, if she had bothered to look at what everyone else is doing, she'd notice that with both parents in the typical household working in the 21st century, that the little demand there is for STUPID majors like PHOTOGRAPHY is going down the toilet at most schools.

I'm so pissed at her...

ooo what if you only have Engineering on your degree once.. or do you need to have it on the degree twice as listed above

edit : ambiguous subject fixed
 

DaWhim

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
You forgot economics.

I'm an economics minor, but I never got the idea that there was a great demand for it in the workforce unless you got a PhD in it. I just took it on because it was the fastest way to get a minor for me b/c I AP'ed intro macro and intro micro

you have finance on it, but not economics? economics is not important?

finance is a sub-field of economics.
 

TraumaRN

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Hmmmm I know my bachelors will be worth a good deal as the US Dept of Labor estimates that my field will at least 1 million new/replacement workers by 2012.
 

tfinch2

Lifer
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There is nothing wrong with being a photographer. Atleast she will enjoy her work unlike a lot of people. You can make as much as you desire in the field if you have talent.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD

Yeah, but no respectable school district is looking NOT to hire Physics teachers. In fact, I know that most school districts give physics teachers signing bonuses b/c they're so rare. Oh, and I'd loose that private school idea... the pay and benefits are way better at public schools.... also... tenure?

Can you say the same demand exists for art teachers?

do you think i really care?
 

slpaulson

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Jun 5, 2000
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Why can't you just let her do what makes her happy?
Not everybody is looking to get rich...
 

BigJ

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD

Yeah, but no respectable school district is looking NOT to hire Physics teachers. In fact, I know that most school districts give physics teachers signing bonuses b/c they're so rare. Oh, and I'd loose that private school idea... the pay and benefits are way better at public schools.... also... tenure?

Can you say the same demand exists for art teachers?

do you think i really care?

You're only going to teach private?

Typically, Private school teachers get paid much less, and don't even need degrees in their fields of instruction.
 

LordMaul

Lifer
Nov 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Not all degrees are created equal. Don't go to college until you know what you want to do because you will only waste your time and money. Anyone who told you that you should take a bunch of different classes to see what you like is on the take. The only way to find out what you like is to try to get some work experience.

If you graduated college with a BS, didn't go on to grad school and didn't have one of the following words on your degree, you got fooled:

Computer
Engineering
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Engineering
Accounting
Finance
Engineering
Spanish
Education

There may be a few I'm forgetting, but don't tell me that "I forgot marketing" or I'll reach through my internet connection and strangle you.

My sister thinks that she's going to make a living at life taking photos. She's one of the smartest people I know but she may as well announce to the world that she's going to make money by telling people what shapes she sees in the clouds :thumbsdown:

Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

Of course, if she had bothered to try following national politics with no child left behind and rapidly shrinking extra-curricular budgets, she'd already know that the HS plan was stupid. Furthermore, if she had bothered to look at what everyone else is doing, she'd notice that with both parents in the typical household working in the 21st century, that the little demand there is for STUPID majors like PHOTOGRAPHY is going down the toilet at most schools.

I'm so pissed at her...

ooo what if you only have Engineering on your degree once.. or do you need to have it on the degree twice as listed above

edit : ambiguous subject fixed

It's actually on there 3 times. :Q
 

acemcmac

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD

Yeah, but no respectable school district is looking NOT to hire Physics teachers. In fact, I know that most school districts give physics teachers signing bonuses b/c they're so rare. Oh, and I'd loose that private school idea... the pay and benefits are way better at public schools.... also... tenure?

Can you say the same demand exists for art teachers?

do you think i really care?

I'm not trying to tear you down, just point out the obvious. Around here, starting salary for a physics teacher in a public school will be 40k with up to a 10k signing bonus, tenure in 3 years, great benefits and a gaurenteed pension. Most private schools start around 20-25k, you will get no signing bonus, have losuy benefits, no tenure (you'll work at their leisure for life) and a 401k instead of a pension. That just seems to be a no brainer to me.

I'm curious, why do think that private school is worth that sacrafice?
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD

Yeah, but no respectable school district is looking NOT to hire Physics teachers. In fact, I know that most school districts give physics teachers signing bonuses b/c they're so rare. Oh, and I'd loose that private school idea... the pay and benefits are way better at public schools.... also... tenure?

Can you say the same demand exists for art teachers?

do you think i really care?

You're only going to teach private?

Typically, Private school teachers get paid much less, and don't even need degrees in their fields of instruction.

no if you read what i wrote you would see that i want to teach in college, they dont give PHDs in studio arts they give MFAs and its all you need to teach in a college in those areas
 

zanieladie

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I have a Master's in Clincial Psychology and hope one day (when the kids are on their own) to earn a Doctorate.

I didn't make the list.

::sniff sniff::
 

acemcmac

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: oogabooga
ooo what if you only have Engineering on your degree once.. or do you need to have it on the degree twice as listed above

edit : ambiguous subject fixed

It's actually on there 3 times. :Q

I'm trying to make a point
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Not all degrees are created equal. Don't go to college until you know what you want to do because you will only waste your time and money. Anyone who told you that you should take a bunch of different classes to see what you like is on the take. The only way to find out what you like is to try to get some work experience.

If you graduated college with a BS, didn't go on to grad school and didn't have one of the following words on your degree, you got fooled:

Computer
Engineering
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Engineering
Accounting
Finance
Engineering
Spanish
Education

There may be a few I'm forgetting, but don't tell me that "I forgot marketing" or I'll reach through my internet connection and strangle you.

My sister thinks that she's going to make a living at life taking photos. She's one of the smartest people I know but she may as well announce to the world that she's going to make money by telling people what shapes she sees in the clouds :thumbsdown:

Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

Of course, if she had bothered to try following national politics with no child left behind and rapidly shrinking extra-curricular budgets, she'd already know that the HS plan was stupid. Furthermore, if she had bothered to look at what everyone else is doing, she'd notice that with both parents in the typical household working in the 21st century, that the little demand there is for STUPID majors like PHOTOGRAPHY is going down the toilet at most schools.

I'm so pissed at her...

ooo what if you only have Engineering on your degree once.. or do you need to have it on the degree twice as listed above

edit : ambiguous subject fixed

If you had engineering on YOUR degree, you'd see that it's actually there 3 times ;)

edit: damn, beaten to the punch
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: acemcmac


Her plan A: Teach photography at a college with a PhD in it
Her plan B: Teach photography at a HS.

.

i have a degree in Physics and thats my exact plan ATM :confused:

except i wont teach pub HS only priviate and im gonna get my MFA not PHD

Yeah, but no respectable school district is looking NOT to hire Physics teachers. In fact, I know that most school districts give physics teachers signing bonuses b/c they're so rare. Oh, and I'd loose that private school idea... the pay and benefits are way better at public schools.... also... tenure?

Can you say the same demand exists for art teachers?

do you think i really care?

You're only going to teach private?

Typically, Private school teachers get paid much less, and don't even need degrees in their fields of instruction.

no if you read what i wrote you would see that i want to teach in college, they dont give PHDs in studio arts they give MFAs and its all you need to teach in a college in those areas

Well your post is quite ambiguous.