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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Believe me, this doesn't just have to do with the PS2 and PS3 problems. Check into the C-13 problems, the rootkit problems and more.. It's just the tip of the iceberg.

/raises hand

Victim of the C 13:00 issue right here. $300 piece of ****** Sony DVD player lasted 14 months.

Also a victim of the PS2 disc read errors.

And my wife's Vaio has this funny problem where it won't boot up unless you put pressure on a certain spot with your knee. It's a common problem with her model.

Never again will I buy Sony electronics.

when you have a company making batteries/chargers, computers/laptops, tv's, cell phones, alarm clocks, discman, walkman, minidisc, dvd players, video game and consoles, digital cameras/camcorders, floppy disks, flash memory, cd's, robotic dogs, PDA's, earbuds/headphones, audio systems, arranging a music industry, publishing games (SCEI, SCEA), i'm sure the company would be more prone to having people reporting its products having problems.

and i'm sure i missed a lot of sony's products.
I'm sure the rootkit was an accident.

Viva Nintendola!
 
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
I'm not going to continue running around in circles with you. You're incompetent and can't search for a product then it's not my fault.
You make the claim, you provide the proof. That's how it works.
I NEVER said it was sent out with WinDVD 8 (you did, but again reading comprehension is beyond you apparently - I quoted you). WTF are you talking about? Still making sh1t up and twisting peoples words.

"Unfortunately, the WinDVD HD software bundled with the AV650 could've been a lot better."

Oh my. WinDVD HD. Wow, nowhere is a number. Same as WinDVD BR, all it is is the latest version of WinDVD with the codec for HD material added on.
Unless manufacturers start shipping the HD version of WinDVD with their Blu-ray drives, your comment has zero relevance to my original point. My supposition all along was that WinDVD BD is exclusive to Sony Vaio products and is possibly unavailable for other Blu-ray manufacturers or products, which I thought was a possible reason why the Sony PC drive didn't come with any software. If WinDVD 8 is unreleased and WinDVD BD is unavailable for whatever reason (exclusivity, cost, bugs, availability), then Sony has nothing to bundle with their drive.

"That's great to hear. I'm sure you can provide a link to the NEC drive with information on it shipping with WinDVD 8 (or something comparable).

Again, this is pointless. I think I've proven that you're incompetent and you don't have the ability to search for information over the net. WinDVD, while unrealsed, is OEM software and is being provided by Toshiba, Sony and another company (I want to say HP but It's REALLY not worth my time to go search).
To be fair, I'm not imcompetent. I just chose not to do your research for you.:) You make the claim, you provide the proof.

Are any of those products standalone drives? Or just "media laptops" like the Qosmio and Vaio products? That has been the argument all along. What you've failed to prove that Toshiba or NEC (or sony, panasonic, etc) have released a standalone drive with a bundled media playback.
Sony dropped the ball by not telling end-users that they wouldn't be able to play movies and by not bundling software. PERIOD. I don't give a flying funk what you say otherwise.
So there's no point in arguing then is there? I'm going to revive this thread for the first HD DVD drive that sells without bundled software just to complain.:)