Props to the protesters

[Homerboy]

None of these "protest" mobs are spontaneous or organic in nature...they are all staged events "flash mobbed" on social media.

Uhhh can you explain the difference between "organic" mob and one formulating via social media?

 

[brandonbull]

The anti-Trump protests are vastly larger (1-2% of the ENTIRE US population). We are talking about millions of protestors around the country. This is a historic level of protests that hasn't been seen since the Vietnam war and the Civil rights movement. Those protest movements were both successful.

If the protests remain PEACEFUL and MAMMOTH, they will have a powerful impact. An examination of history proves that.



The Revolutionary War started with protests.....

In what universe do you think that "progressive protesters" should be allowed to be compared with the people and events of the Revolutionary War?

These "protesters" are nothing more than political thugs going around intimidating their opponents with violence. The Nazis did the same things with the use of cinema, violence and labels to reduce the morale of their opponents. They loved repeating the same lies over and over again until it was truth, and would use negative stereotypes on people until those people become riddled with guilt. Kinda sounds like the modern use of "white guilt/white priviledge", Hollywood celebrities making videos and speeches, and protesters assaulting "Trump supporters" and destroying property.

 

[fskimospy]

In what universe do you think that "progressive protesters" should be allowed to be compared with the people and events of the Revolutionary War?

These "protesters" are nothing more than political thugs going around intimidating their opponents with violence. The Nazis did the same things with the use of cinema, violence and labels to reduce the morale of their opponents. They loved repeating the same lies over and over again until it was truth, and would use negative stereotypes on people until those people become riddled with guilt. Kinda sounds like the modern use of "white guilt/white priviledge", Hollywood celebrities making videos and speeches, and protesters assaulting "Trump supporters" and destroying property.

So to be clear you believe the people protesting AGAINST religion based persecution are the Nazis in this analogy?

Amazing. Lol.

 

[Homerboy]

In what universe do you think that "progressive protesters" should be allowed to be compared with the people and events of the Revolutionary War?

These "protesters" are nothing more than political thugs going around intimidating their opponents with violence. The Nazis did the same things with the use of cinema, violence and labels to reduce the morale of their opponents. They loved repeating the same lies over and over again until it was truth, and would use negative stereotypes on people until those people become riddled with guilt. Kinda sounds like the modern use of "white guilt/white priviledge", Hollywood celebrities making videos and speeches, and protesters assaulting "Trump supporters" and destroying property.

"Political Thugs"?
Exactly how should citizens protest? What is acceptable to you?
You don't think the Trump administration has been (attempting to) "repeating the same lies over and over again until it was truth"?
Out of the millions of protesters world wide, how many assaults were there? How much property was damaged? If you come up with a crime ratio, I bet it's WAY lower than any middle to large size city in the United States.

 

[brandonbull]

So to be clear you believe the people protesting AGAINST religion based persecution are the Nazis in this analogy?

Amazing. Lol.

So are you saying that the executive order specifically states that Muslims cannot enter the US? Which religion is being persecuted again?

 

[Homerboy]

So are you saying that the executive order specifically states that Muslims cannot enter the US? Which religion is being persecuted again?

Not directly but...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/politics/annotating-trump-immigration-refugee-order.html

The order prioritizes Christian refugees

Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality.

As a general matter, this will give priority to Christian refugees over Muslim ones. Though framed in a neutral way, this part of the order may raise questions of religion-based discrimination. Mr. Trump has said that he means to favor Christian refugees.

That violates the First Amendment’s ban on government establishment of religion, according to David Cole, the legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. “One of the critical questions with respect to the validity of executive action challenged under the Establishment Clause is its intent and effect,” he wrote in a blog post. “If intended to disfavor a particular religion, it violates the Establishment Clause.”

 

[fskimospy]

So are you saying that the executive order specifically states that Muslims cannot enter the US? Which religion is being persecuted again?

Now you're being deliberately obtuse. This order was obviously made with such intent. Rudy Giuliani already publicly admitted as much.

So yes again, you are comparing people trying to protect religious minorities to Nazis. The irony here is so thick you could cut it with a knife. People are rarely dumb enough to make a Nazi analogy that obviously casts the side they support as the Nazis. That's pretty funny.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's a step up from yellow journalism. Bannon doesn't just get to spin the news, he gets to create the news to polarize the public & to sow divisiveness. It's the Mike Cernovich school of Alt-right trollery. Conflict is attention. Attention is influence. Influence has now become real Power.

Trump & Bannon know full well that the ban makes no sense & that the sudden ham handed implementation makes even less. Once we realize that they did it that way on purpose the nature of their game is revealed.

 

[Brainonska511]

Where were the protests when the Obama admin denied refugee status to groups that were being butchered by ISIS and both sides of the Syrian conflict? By that I mean the Yazidi (sp) and Christians. Where were the protests when Obama had US citizens killed without due process? You were sucking off your anatomically correct Obama dolls and buggering yourselves with them. You don't give a rat's a** about the refuges any more that Schumer does.

You just a bunch of stupid, petulant, spoiled brats that didn't get your way last November. Sucks for you that you let Hillary and the DNC rig the primaries and you were stuck with a hag that enough people hated to a point that they believed they had no other recourse than to vote for Trump. But hey, you're incapable of accepting responsibility for anything. Superior life forms have evolved beyond such things, right?

1) People were complaining we weren't doing enough to help the Yazidis when ISIS came to town, but we were doing something. You must have missed the part where we were using American airpower in coordination with special forces and the Kurdish militias to protect their retreat from their ancestral home.

2) Rigged primaries - this is such a tired and overly repeated lie, but keep telling yourself that they were rigged against a candidate Republicans wouldn't have voted for anyway.

3) When are Republicans going to accept responsibility for nominating and voting for Trump instead of blaming liberals for making them vote for Trump?

 

[brandonbull]

Now you're being deliberately obtuse. This order was obviously made with such intent. Rudy Giuliani already publicly admitted as much.

So yes again, you are comparing people trying to protect religious minorities to Nazis. The irony here is so thick you could cut it with a knife. People are rarely dumb enough to make a Nazi analogy that obviously casts the side they support as the Nazis. That's pretty funny.

So the countries that all citizens are banned from comprise a small % of the total Muslim population = Total Muslim ban and religious persecution? And I'm the obtuse one?

 

[fskimospy]

So the countries that all citizens are banned from comprise a small % of the total Muslim population = Total Muslim ban and religious persecution? And I'm the obtuse one?

Nice weasel words. Again, Giuliani came straight out and said this was his suggestion to Trump for how to institute a Muslim ban. That same Muslim ban he literally campaigned on. In addition Was he lying? In addition, Trump explicitly said he wanted to help Christians from those countries and then included an explicit carve out for 'religious minorities' in those countries. (i.e.: not muslims.) So yes, anyone trying to say that anti-Muslim animus was not part of this order is being deliberately obtuse.

Alternative facts are here. In our new America those trying to stop persecution of religious minorities are the Nazis!

 

[Homerboy]

"Political Thugs"?
Exactly how should citizens protest? What is acceptable to you?
You don't think the Trump administration has been (attempting to) "repeating the same lies over and over again until it was truth"?
Out of the millions of protesters world wide, how many assaults were there? How much property was damaged? If you come up with a crime ratio, I bet it's WAY lower than any middle to large size city in the United States.

@brandonbull please respond.

 

[realibrad]

Nice weasel words. Again, Giuliani came straight out and said this was his suggestion to Trump for how to institute a Muslim ban. That same Muslim ban he literally campaigned on. In addition Was he lying? In addition, Trump explicitly said he wanted to help Christians from those countries and then included an explicit carve out for 'religious minorities' in those countries. (i.e.: not muslims.) So yes, anyone trying to say that anti-Muslim animus was not part of this order is being deliberately obtuse.

Alternative facts are here. In our new America those trying to stop persecution of religious minorities are the Nazis!

Not sure it makes a huge difference, but he is banning Muslims from specific areas. He has not (yet?) banned countries that are majority Muslim in the non Arab world. I think its something like just over half of the Muslim world is not banned right now.

 

[bshole]

In what universe do you think that "progressive protesters" should be allowed to be compared with the people and events of the Revolutionary War?

These "protesters" are nothing more than political thugs going around intimidating their opponents with violence. .

Complete historical illiteracy.... why am I not surprised? The Revolutionists violently tarred and feathered their political opponents. Now that may not count as violence in your universe but in mine it is. The Boston Tea Party involved protestors violently destroying chests of tea belonging to their political opponents.

Non-violent protests in action.... note that NO INTIMIDATION is occurring....

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Did you not witness the violent Inauguration day protests a whole 10 days ago? Have you not seen the brutal beating of President Trump's supporters? There's a permanent threat coming from these protests and protesters that if you oppose them, you do so at risk of violence.

Complete historical illiteracy.... why am I not surprised? The Revolutionists violently tarred and feathered their political opponents. Now that may not count as violence in your universe but in mine it is. The Boston Tea Party involved protestors violently destroying chests of tea belonging to their political opponents.

Non-violent protests in action.... note that NO INTIMIDATION is occurring....

 

[alien42]

Did you not witness the violent Inauguration day protests a whole 10 days ago?

enough of the bullshit, the largest protest in this nations history occurred in response to the illligitemate election of Trump and there was very very little violence.

you aren't going to rewrite history with your lies, Trump has encouraged, incited and supported violence for over a year now.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

enough of the bullshit, the largest protest in this nations history occurred in response to the illligitemate election of Trump and there was very very little violence.

you aren't going to rewrite history with your lies, Trump has encouraged, incited and supported violence for over a year now.

"very very little" is not none and it has a chilling effect on counter protests.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Did you not witness the violent Inauguration day protests a whole 10 days ago? Have you not seen the brutal beating of President Trump's supporters? There's a permanent threat coming from these protests and protesters that if you oppose them, you do so at risk of violence.

Do you prefer your shirts to be black or brown?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Did you not witness the violent Inauguration day protests a whole 10 days ago? Have you not seen the brutal beating of President Trump's supporters? There's a permanent threat coming from these protests and protesters that if you oppose them, you do so at risk of violence.

Yeah, look at these violent thugs

 

[alien42]

"very very little" is not none and it has a chilling effect on counter protests.

and every single Trump rally had violence from Trump supporters, what is your point?

 

[Jhhnn]

enough of the bullshit, the largest protest in this nations history occurred in response to the illligitemate election of Trump and there was very very little violence.

you aren't going to rewrite history with your lies, Trump has encouraged, incited and supported violence for over a year now.

Trump calls for violence, gets violence. His supporters roared in approval. That's easy to understand. It's not much violence at all, but enough for those same supporters to feign indignity. They's so skeered! If Trump declared martial law tomorrow they'd think it was perfectly justifiable.

 

[Thebobo]

There is no "frenzy" just more "progressive" paid for and DNC media manufactured tantrums complete with Marxist Media laudatory collusion coverage. The DNC owns all the thug mob street violence and staged protests..their funding and fingerprints are all over it.

So you claim the DNC is organizing the protest all across North america in Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, Australia and Antarctica? Damn they good.

Have any legitimate Proof to back up your claims?

 

[snarfbot]

some of the posters in this thread are living in some sort of liberal fantasy land designed by george soros. scary.

 

[Commodus]

some of the posters in this thread are living in some sort of liberal fantasy land designed by george soros. scary.

I know at least one person who's definitely living in a conservative fantasy land designed by Donald Trump.

The notion that the anti-Trump protests are part of some sinister plot, especially given how quickly some of them have formed, is silly. Perish the thought that women might be genuinely concerned that Trump will set back reproductive freedom by 50 years, or that people may have sincere compassion for immigrants stranded in airports or denied a chance to live the American dream. Nope, rights advocacy and empathy aren't valid options -- in Trump's America, everything has to be a conspiratorial power grab.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

and every single Trump rally had violence from Trump supporters, what is your point?

and you are a liar unless you can support such an obvious lie. Btw Trump had over 80 rallies.