Proof God doesn't Exist

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thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
What is this? Flaimbait/Troll day? :thumbsdown:


Why is it that I only get called a troll by people with the American flag for their avatar?

Now someone with the fish avatar has called you a troll. Now shut up, turn around, and leave. I call for bannage for a troll thread after only 140 post...
 
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I'm not gonna read every response but God is not bound to time itself (which He created himself). He is beyond the limits of time.....way beyond it, so therefore, your whole "theory" just went down the sh!tter.

edited for clarity.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: envy me
The bible was written by man.

That's where the "divinely inspired" concept comes in.

and Regarding our future being predetermined, I beleive that is what the study of quantum physics and quantum realities is all about. The possibility to have multiple realities exist where every choice that you would have made happened.

Interesting theories, they are. :)
 

Legend

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Why must there be a beginning?

I don't think the universe is a storybook. It doesn't follow the rules of human works.

It is, has been and always will be. That's what I believe with an open mind because nothing has made me believe otherwise.

The Big Bang Theorey suggests that matter was condensed based off a tiny, tiny, part of historical recordings. Not enough evidence to come up with a solid theorey, nor does it suggest that there was nothing before this condensed period.

What is the universe? Could on a large scale it just be one of many systems? Everything from science would suggest this. Atoms, solar systems, galaxies. See the pattern?
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
I'm not gonna read every response but God doesn't exist and is not bound to time itself (which He created himself). He is beyond the limits of time.....way beyond it, so therefore, your whole "theory" just went down the sh!tter.

Typo? If not, then that's confusing...

 

Legend

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
You are just a n00b. God exists in dimentions past time. Here is some proof that God does exist

How did the earth get here?
the big bang you say?
and how did the stuff to make the big bang get there?


Where did this God come from? Always existed?

You're telling me some germanic grandfather figure in the clouds always existing and creating the universe is easier to understand that the universe always existing?


I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm saying that you're immediate dismissal of other people's ideas with no logic to counter it is a fallacy.
 

kukyfrope

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Human failure to grasp the concept of "creation" because we do not have the ability to create or fully destory mass (law of conservation of mass). Our concepts of reality are based (for the most part) on every day life, with the exception being scientists with all the smarts to figure out every day life.

Are you kidding, the United States population, for the most part, seem pretty dumb and carry a "good enough" attitude, while drawing conclusions on things much more complicated than choosing to eat McDonalds or Burger King for dinner.

EDIT: Go watch Solaris and do some thinking.

PS: I live in Kansas and don't support the teaching of Creationism in schools.
 

JasonSix78

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Very interesting ideas in this thread. Being a Christian myself and a logical thinker, I've often thought about the exact same things. The limits of our minds can't even get close to the beginning of comprehending how things came to be (the scientific aspect of how God created everything).

Here's a few links for those who are interested on this subject:
Link1
Link2

Originally posted by: The Godfather
The morral belief of God in my opinion is the inner self of a human. The good - God. The bad in a person - Devil. As you can see, the Bible refers to Devil as God when he's angry. Why so? Because you're one person, with many emotions.

The whole literal belief that God is in the sky can kiss my ass crack.

I've never seen that one before, what verse in the Bible?

-Jason

 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: envy me
I should have posted this in the highly technical section..

No, you shouldn't have. Stay the he(double toothpicks) out of HT; you're obviously incapable of a truly technical thought.

btw, was this a troll thread??
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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
I'm not gonna read every response but God doesn't exist and is not bound to time itself (which He created himself). He is beyond the limits of time.....way beyond it, so therefore, your whole "theory" just went down the sh!tter.

Typo? If not, then that's confusing...

Sorry, it sounds a little confusing....what I was trying to say is that God does not exist within time itself (aka, not bound to time ). I guess I should have put a comma or something or reworded it.

God exists, but is not bound by time or anything.

edited for more clarity.
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Well I don't know about you, but I'm convinced.
With a name like [/b]Heisenberg[/b], how can you be certain? :shocked:
If I had a nickel everytime somebody made that joke, I could buy that yacht on Ebay. :p
 
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Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Why do people post garbage like this? There can be no such thing as proof that something doesn't exist, it's a logical impossibility!

Jason
 

LeiZaK

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Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
I'm not gonna read every response but God doesn't exist and is not bound to time itself (which He created himself). He is beyond the limits of time.....way beyond it, so therefore, your whole "theory" just went down the sh!tter.

Typo? If not, then that's confusing...

Sorry, it sounds a little confusing....what I was trying to say is that God does not exist within time itself (aka, not bound to time alone). I guess I should have put a comma or something or reworded it.

God exists, but is not bound by time alone.

God is not bound by time at all... or any other perceptions we may have.

 

sao123

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Originally posted by: BigB10293
You're not very good at logic. Stick to burgers.

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Originally posted by: SupaDupaCheez
He's just mad that he can't get an xbox 360 for Christmas so he is trying to bring the entire Christian belief down so that Christmas won't happen and he, therefore, will not be denied an Xbox 360 for Christmas.

Don't you just love logic like this? :)

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Originally posted by: LeiZaK
Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

404 - Logic Not Found

are you female?

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Originally posted by: WhoBeDaPlaya
But... but... black holes are where God divided by zero ;)
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Originally posted by: Remy XO
The world is Flat because it rooks like it!
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DaShen

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Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

You might want to check up on your quantum physics... :roll:

That is some of the most ignorant or misinformed logic I have read in a while. Considering that Time is relative to other conditions, it is possible that "before" the time/Universe began, there was something else. It just is impossible to determine with modern physics.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Why do people post garbage like this? There can be no such thing as proof that something doesn't exist, it's a logical impossibility!

Jason
Not exactly. I can prove that a largest prime number doesn't exist, for example.

-Garth

 

hytek369

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Wow, original and groundbreaking. A fine noob you are.

haha, what a tard
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Garth
Not exactly. I can prove that a largest prime number doesn't exist, for example.

-Garth

Not that I'm asking to argue, but how? It escapes my brain.

In any case, you cannot prove that God (in the concept that we understand) does not exist. To be able to prove that, you must be the very thing that you are trying to disprove. Remember, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
 

FeuerFrei

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Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.
I'm not reading all four pages so if this has been covered, oh well.

What if ... God exists outside time, ergo he can step in at any point in time and cause something.

God created time and other natural laws/forces. The universe is governed by the laws he put in existence and we can discover them. This discovery process is known as science.

Maybe God created time simultaneously with physical objects in the universe.