Proof God doesn't Exist

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envy me

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Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.



Or God existed before time, and created SpaceTime and the universes and all previous universes. So God must exsist - That is really all.



define time, relating to your theory.

The fabric that is the universe

So basically you are saying the God had existed before the fabric that is the universe was created, and he created it. Right???

But that means that it would be possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created.

Right??

Correct - we are just one of many little science projects stitting on God's table. Each one with differnt laws of physics.

Ok so If it IS possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created, to always have existed and always will exist, then can you rule out the fact that the universe could have always existed and will always exist?


That is correct - this universe is here for a limited engagement, even blackholes are dying a slow death.

Interesting.. but the universe is expanding exponentially, we do not know how big the universe is, but we do know that it will get bigger and bigger. I guess we need to understand more about the universe scientifically before we learn the true origins of everything.



 

envy me

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Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: illusion88
you know whats most upsetting? The mod light is on and this thing still isnt locked!


Locked for what reason? Because you can't handle the realness??

I'm entitled to my opinion no matter how frivilous it may be.

I can't handle you engrish!!
This thread needs to be locked becuase it is a blatant attempt at trolling. You are fishing for flames, and this sort of thing isnt allowed.

Actually some of the posts made by people that weren't flaming were actually pretty interesting. I could careless about the flamers, I am interested in peoples thoughts on the subject, not on me.

 

illusion88

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God danmit!
I've lost all faith in the mods. Why oh why isn't this locked? What happened to the new common sense rules?
/sigh :(
I need a beer.
Zim?
 

Its always the toolbags who have been here less than a month posting this kind of stuff.....
 

yankeesfan

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Perknose
You are proof that God doesn't exist.

And, yes, I DO want fries with that. Chop, chop, those Big Mac don't bag themselves, you know.

go bake me a cake bitch.

:shocked:

Bad idea.

No personal insults allowed, noob.



;)
 

LeadMagnet

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Envy Me -
Interesting.. but the universe is expanding exponentially, we do not know how big the universe is, but we do know that it will get bigger and bigger. I guess we need to understand more about the universe scientifically before we learn the true origins of everything.

Most people don't know it, and science cannot prove it yet - but eventually Hubble's expanding universe will hit the inside of the jar and stop growing.
 

Crescent13

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You are just a n00b. God exists in dimentions past time. Here is some proof that God does exist

How did the earth get here?
the big bang you say?
and how did the stuff to make the big bang get there?
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Perknose
You are proof that God doesn't exist.

And, yes, I DO want fries with that. Chop, chop, those Big Mac don't bag themselves, you know.

go bake me a cake bitch.

:shocked:

Bad idea.

No personal insults allowed, noob.



;)

I'm getting a majority of the insults here.. His comment was just as inappropriate as mine was.
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
You are just a n00b. God exists in dimentions past time. Here is some proof that God does exist

How did the earth get here?
the big bang you say?
and how did the stuff to make the big bang get there?


I believe there's an explanation for everything. We just don't have the facts yet.

BTW: I HARDLY BELIEVE that a guy with a beard in the clouds created a universe. Please...
 

yankeesfan

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Presented with no evidence of a God and no evidence contradicting the notion, the most logical belief, in my opinion, is that one cannot know.
 

Crescent13

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: Crescent13
You are just a n00b. God exists in dimentions past time. Here is some proof that God does exist

How did the earth get here?
the big bang you say?
and how did the stuff to make the big bang get there?


I believe there's an explanation for everything. We just don't have the facts yet.

BTW: I HARDLY BELIEVE that a guy with a beard in the clouds created a universe. Please...


God isn't a guy with a beard in the clouds. We don't know what he is. He could be simply a mass of energy a trillion lightyears away. Who knows. The point is that he exists.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: LeadMagnet
Envy Me -
Interesting.. but the universe is expanding exponentially, we do not know how big the universe is, but we do know that it will get bigger and bigger. I guess we need to understand more about the universe scientifically before we learn the true origins of everything.

Most people don't know it, and science cannot prove it yet - but eventually Hubble's expanding universe will hit the inside of the jar and stop growing.


I certainly hope this is something that could be discovered in our lifetime.

 

The Godfather

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The morral belief of God in my opinion is the inner self of a human. The good - God. The bad in a person - Devil. As you can see, the Bible refers to Devil as God when he's angry. Why so? Because you're one person, with many emotions.

The whole literal belief that God is in the sky can kiss my ass crack.
 

yankeesfan

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Perhaps humans do not have the capacity to solve the deepest mysteries of the universe. Is it possible that we are too intellectually challenged to even think down the right path?
 

imported_Trippin315

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There is a reference similar to this in the Hitchhikers Guide to the galaxy. But Douglass Adams was a crackpot much like yourself
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
You are just a n00b. God exists in dimentions past time. Here is some proof that God does exist

How did the earth get here?
the big bang you say?
and how did the stuff to make the big bang get there?

... Like I said above, the universe could have always existed, expanding exponentially, with stars blowing up, creating wormholes, collapsing, creating other stars and so on n00b.


 

yankeesfan

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
The morral belief of God in my opinion is the inner self of a human. The good - God. The bad in a person - Devil. As you can see, the Bible refers to Devil as God when he's angry. Why so? Because you're one person, with many emotions.

The whole literal belief that God is in the sky can kiss my ass crack.

What about the belief that there is an entity that created the building blocks for the universe that we now know? The interpretation of the word "god", I think, can be extended to any unknown entity governing the universe. The forces influencing what we view as the universe could be god's mechanisms.
 

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Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

God is not limited by time or space.In fact,he created time and space

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envy me

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Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Originally posted by: The Godfather
The morral belief of God in my opinion is the inner self of a human. The good - God. The bad in a person - Devil. As you can see, the Bible refers to Devil as God when he's angry. Why so? Because you're one person, with many emotions.

The whole literal belief that God is in the sky can kiss my ass crack.

What about the belief that there is an entity that created the building blocks for the universe that we now know? The interpretation of the word "god", I think, can be extended to any unknown entity governing the universe. The forces influencing what we view as the universe could be god's mechanisms.

According to the bible though I think the word god would be defined as something more than just an entity. But then again, what really bothers me, is that the bible was written by man thousands of years ago. By people who claimed to have spoken with god, and so on. Who's to say some of the "CRAZY" people in our times who make wild claims similar to claims made by moses or other prophets who spoke with god are not as accurate as past claims.

We cannot judge the validity of these claims because we don't have the means of proving or disproving them. The simple fact is, It was said to have happened thousands of years ago, and ever since then people have been beleiving it.

What would happen if christ were to have come back to life in our time with messages from god. We would surely dismiss him without any solid proof wouldn't we?

Then why are we basing the context of a book written thousands of years ago to be factual without any slight proof?

 

thehstrybean

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You, my friend, are an idiot. God created the universe. Science, yes the thing that aethism stands on, has proven that there was a big bang (backround radiation) and is expanding (red shift), and therefore had a beginning with...a bang. I believe that God did this.
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thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Originally posted by: The Godfather
The morral belief of God in my opinion is the inner self of a human. The good - God. The bad in a person - Devil. As you can see, the Bible refers to Devil as God when he's angry. Why so? Because you're one person, with many emotions.

The whole literal belief that God is in the sky can kiss my ass crack.

What about the belief that there is an entity that created the building blocks for the universe that we now know? The interpretation of the word "god", I think, can be extended to any unknown entity governing the universe. The forces influencing what we view as the universe could be god's mechanisms.

According to the bible though I think the word god would be defined as something more than just an entity. But then again, what really bothers me, is that the bible was written by man thousands of years ago. By people who claimed to have spoken with god, and so on. Who's to say some of the "CRAZY" people in our times who make wild claims similar to claims made by moses or other prophets who spoke with god are not as accurate as past claims.

We cannot judge the validity of these claims because we don't have the means of proving or disproving them. The simple fact is, It was said to have happened thousands of years ago, and ever since then people have been beleiving it.

What would happen if christ were to have come back to life in our time with messages from god. We would surely dismiss him without any solid proof wouldn't we?

Then why are we basing the context of a book written thousands of years ago to be factual without any slight proof?

That's were faith comes in. Jesus will come back, and people WILL reject him. (Read Revelation..). True believers will know...