Proof God doesn't Exist

[Alkesh]

GTFOOOH

 

[HN]

It's better to be wrong about believing God exists than to be wrong about believing that it doesn't.

not sure where i stand yet. sticking with agnostic for now.

 

[LeadMagnet]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Or God existed before time, and created SpaceTime and the universes and all previous universes. So God must exsist - That is really all.

define time, relating to your theory.

The fabric that is the universe

 

[leftyman]

this guy makes me wish wasserkool was still around

 

[yankeesfan]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

There is no "beginning of time" of which any one is reliably aware. "Beginnings" and "Ends" are characteristic of things that exist *IN* space and time, because defining those characterstics presupposes time's existence.

That's not to mention that you can't derive "God doesn't exist" from "the universe never began." Gods don't need to be creators to be gods.

I'm an atheist, and I think your argument sucks.

-Garth

They don't but according to the catholic religion they have. If it was possible for something to just exist out of nothingness, then who is to say the universe just didn't exist out of nothingness.

Physics can't explain how something arises from nothing. That's what this is about.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: envy me
Don't let the low post count fool you.. I'm not a noob

The the next question is obvious... WWYBYWB?

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: envy me
Why is it that I only get called a troll by people with the American flag for their avatar?

Fine, I'll do it. This is nothing but a troll thread. Leave and don't come back.

Please add the gorilla avatar to the list of those that have called you a troll... troll.

 

[envy me]

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What forum would that be again?? I though this was off topic, I don't see a GOD forum or religion forum George.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: BigB10293
You're not very good at logic. Stick to burgers.

:beer: That made me laugh

Ausm

 

[Remy XO]

The world is Flat because it rooks like it!

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Or God existed before time, and created SpaceTime and the universes and all previous universes. So God must exsist - That is really all.

define time, relating to your theory.

The fabric that is the universe

So basically you are saying the God had existed before the fabric that is the universe was created, and he created it. Right???

But that means that it would be possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created.

Right??

 

[Mo0o]

Lol way to go champ, you just disproved all religion in one overly simplistic and overdone argument

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

There is no "beginning of time" of which any one is reliably aware. "Beginnings" and "Ends" are characteristic of things that exist *IN* space and time, because defining those characterstics presupposes time's existence.

That's not to mention that you can't derive "God doesn't exist" from "the universe never began." Gods don't need to be creators to be gods.

I'm an atheist, and I think your argument sucks.

-Garth

They don't but according to the catholic religion they have.

So then you haven't proven that God doesn't exist, but rather you have proven that one particuar concept of God does not represent any actual reality. Even still, your argument presumes that we can make reliable inductions about the characteristics of God within a naturalistic framework. How can you rule out the possibility that God created the universe 5 minutes ago complete with all of the appearances of having existed forever?

If it was possible for something to just exist out of nothingness, then who is to say the universe just didn't exist out of nothingness.

Nobody, but that doesn't prove what you claimed that it proved. That's why your argument sucks.

-Garth


[/quote]

 

[LeiZaK]

The universe, along with time, is just an imagined thing anyway.

 

[AnandTech Moderator]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Well I don't know about you, but I'm convinced.

With a name like [/b]Heisenberg[/b], how can you be certain? :shocked:

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

There is no "beginning of time" of which any one is reliably aware. "Beginnings" and "Ends" are characteristic of things that exist *IN* space and time, because defining those characterstics presupposes time's existence.

That's not to mention that you can't derive "God doesn't exist" from "the universe never began." Gods don't need to be creators to be gods.

I'm an atheist, and I think your argument sucks.

-Garth

They don't but according to the catholic religion they have.

So then you haven't proven that God doesn't exist, but rather you have proven that one particuar concept of God does not represent any actual reality. Even still, your argument presumes that we can make reliable inductions about the characteristics of God within a naturalistic framework. How can you rule out the possibility that God created the universe 5 minutes ago complete with all of the appearances of having existed forever?

Easily because I remember what I did 10 minutes ago. Therefore I was around 10 minutes ago, (before God created the universe)?

If it was possible for something to just exist out of nothingness, then who is to say the universe just didn't exist out of nothingness.

Nobody, but that doesn't prove what you claimed that it proved. That's why your argument sucks.

-Garth

[/quote]

It is assumed by catholic religion that God created everything; the universe, earth, life, everything.

But I'm saying if the universe existed on its own, and always has, then it would be possible that life evolved on it's own.

 

[LeadMagnet]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Or God existed before time, and created SpaceTime and the universes and all previous universes. So God must exsist - That is really all.

define time, relating to your theory.

The fabric that is the universe

So basically you are saying the God had existed before the fabric that is the universe was created, and he created it. Right???

But that means that it would be possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created.

Right??

Correct - we are just one of many little science projects stitting on God's table. Each one with differnt laws of physics.

 

[Perknose]

You are proof that God doesn't exist.

And, yes, I DO want fries with that. Chop, chop, those Big Mac don't bag themselves, you know.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Or God existed before time, and created SpaceTime and the universes and all previous universes. So God must exsist - That is really all.

define time, relating to your theory.

The fabric that is the universe

So basically you are saying the God had existed before the fabric that is the universe was created, and he created it. Right???

But that means that it would be possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created.

Right??

Correct - we are just one of many little science projects stitting on God's table. Each one with differnt laws of physics.

Ok so If it IS possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created, to always have existed and always will exist, then can you rule out the fact that the universe could have always existed and will always exist?

 

[SoulAssassin]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but it generally states that God is omnipotent in the bible, correct? Working under the assumption that is true, then God knows everything that is happened in the past, what is happening, and what will happen, correct? If it is true, then it stands to reason that our future is predetermined and we have no free will. God knew since the beginning of time (however you choose to define that) that I was going to post this message and he knew the responses you are going to make.

Explain.

/I swear it's not flamebait...honest question.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: Perknose
You are proof that God doesn't exist.

And, yes, I DO want fries with that. Chop, chop, those Big Mac don't bag themselves, you know.

go bake me a cake bitch.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Please correct me if I'm wrong but it generally states that God is omnipotent in the bible, correct? Working under the assumption that is true, then God knows everything that is happened in the past, what is happening, and what will happen, correct? If it is true, then it stands to reason that our future is predetermined and we have no free will. God knew since the beginning of time (however you choose to define that) that I was going to post this message and he knew the responses you are going to make.

Explain.

/I swear it's not flamebait...honest question.

And thus springs the possibility of an infinite number of universes.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Please correct me if I'm wrong but it generally states that God is omnipotent in the bible, correct? Working under the assumption that is true, then God knows everything that is happened in the past, what is happening, and what will happen, correct? If it is true, then it stands to reason that our future is predetermined and we have no free will. God knew since the beginning of time (however you choose to define that) that I was going to post this message and he knew the responses you are going to make.

Explain.

/I swear it's not flamebait...honest question.

KNOWING is not the same as determining what you will choose. He may KNOW what you will do but he's not making the decisions for you.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Please correct me if I'm wrong but it generally states that God is omnipotent in the bible, correct? Working under the assumption that is true, then God knows everything that is happened in the past, what is happening, and what will happen, correct? If it is true, then it stands to reason that our future is predetermined and we have no free will. God knew since the beginning of time (however you choose to define that) that I was going to post this message and he knew the responses you are going to make.

Explain.

/I swear it's not flamebait...honest question.

The bible was written by man.

and Regarding our future being predetermined, I beleive that is what the study of quantum physics and quantum realities is all about. The possibility to have multiple realities exist where every choice that you would have made happened.

 

[LeadMagnet]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: LeadMagnet

Originally posted by: envy me

If God Exists and HAS existed since the beginning of time, then that means existing since the beginning of time is possible.

Furthermore if the above is possible, then it is possible that the universe has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist and wasn't in fact created by god.

That is all.

Or God existed before time, and created SpaceTime and the universes and all previous universes. So God must exsist - That is really all.

define time, relating to your theory.

The fabric that is the universe

So basically you are saying the God had existed before the fabric that is the universe was created, and he created it. Right???

But that means that it would be possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created.

Right??

Correct - we are just one of many little science projects stitting on God's table. Each one with differnt laws of physics.

Ok so If it IS possible to exist before the fabric of the universe was created, to always have existed and always will exist, then can you rule out the fact that the universe could have always existed and will always exist?

That is correct - this universe is here for a limited engagement, even blackholes are dying a slow death.

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: illusion88
you know whats most upsetting? The mod light is on and this thing still isnt locked!

Locked for what reason? Because you can't handle the realness??

I'm entitled to my opinion no matter how frivilous it may be.

I can't handle you engrish!!
This thread needs to be locked becuase it is a blatant attempt at trolling. You are fishing for flames, and this sort of thing isnt allowed.