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Preview of MS Longhorn (beta OS)

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Originally posted by: aswedc
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
One of the TAs for my Information in Cyberspace class at UT was saying that MS and UT have some kind of agreement, which is why they are using the name Longhorn. I dunno if that's true, but it makes sense. Longhorn is a pretty random name for an OS.
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he's full of crap.
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and mister microsoft guru, why would that be? UT does have some registered trademark stuff with longhorn and the logo...
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Ameesh works for Microsoft.
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0WN3D!

sorry had to say it
 
Dang, I guess I'm in the minority here, but I actually like XP, and am looking forward to Longhorn. Disclaimer: I hated all Microsoft's operating systems until XP. It was actually the only thing keeping me from going to Linux. Although I have to admit that the activation fiasco almost pushed me to the edge.....
 
Originally posted by: theNEOone
Dang, I guess I'm in the minority here, but I actually like XP, and am looking forward to Longhorn. Disclaimer: I hated all Microsoft's operating systems until XP. It was actually the only thing keeping me from going to Linux. Although I have to admit that the activation fiasco almost pushed me to the edge.....
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If WPA pushed you to the edge, Palladium/TCPA will push you clear over it.

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
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It's amazing how people can make a statement like that based on 6 non official screen shots that may or may not show what the next os may or may not look like. There has been no discussion at all on what features the os may contain, just how pretty or not pretty it is. All we are missing is a few MAC folks to point out how they still look better 😉

Bill
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I agree.

Just in regards to the GUI, I think we'll see several features and improvements with the 2.5D interface. What does jaguar do with HW acceleration besides genie effects and fewer window painting artifacts? I think theres a lot of potential going untapped. Like star-trek, they have holodecks and transporters but it takes decades for any of the characters to figure out something cool to do with them, and takes real people about 5 seconds.
 
Originally posted by: spankyOO7
Originally posted by: dparker
Ok, can somebody explain Palladium and why it is so bad?
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OMFG you can't be serious!!!!!!!! My gut tells me that there has to be some kind of constitutional violation here. Common!!!!! Microsoft CANNOT be allowed to implement this!!

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I wonder if the DirectXness of the Desktop will make games take a (significant) performance hit.
 
Originally posted by: theNEOone

OMFG you can't be serious!!!!!!!! My gut tells me that there has to be some kind of constitutional violation here. Common!!!!! Microsoft CANNOT be allowed to implement this!!

:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|
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Microsoft's leadership just doesn't seem to get it. The company has been seriously self-destructing. I'd hate to see their company crumble as a result of this bad management of development, but its impossible to change them. The good thing about it, though, is if Microsoft ever turned into a smaller player in the market, is that the price of an OS will be cut down to a more reasonable level.

I think that if OS X by Apple ever was launched to the x86 masses then it just might take off. At least Microsoft would have a genuine threat to their OS rather than the threat implied by any one form of Linux currently in the wild. The various Linux OS's are just too dependent on commandline and their automated shell applications, like for loading programs based on file extensions or loading programs in the different releases, would need to be unified if one is ever going to be a major consumer OS.
 
Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: theNEOone

OMFG you can't be serious!!!!!!!! My gut tells me that there has to be some kind of constitutional violation here. Common!!!!! Microsoft CANNOT be allowed to implement this!!

:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|
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Microsoft's leadership just doesn't seem to get it. The company has been seriously self-destructing. I'd hate to see their company crumble as a result of this bad management of development, but its impossible to change them. The good thing about it, though, is if Microsoft ever turned into a smaller player in the market, is that the price of an OS will be cut down to a more reasonable level.
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This won't kill Microsoft, so don't worry about that. They've already got agreements with the right people (AMD, Intel, others?) to imbed their cop chips in processors, motherboards, et. al. The relief at this time is that when it does come, it will be optional. Thus, if you want to run Linux, you can simply turn it off in the BIOS. Where the problem really lies is in the RIAA's CBDTPA, which would make technology like MS's TCPA mandatory for everyone.
I think that if OS X by Apple ever was launched to the x86 masses then it just might take off.
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It won't be happening. I'd love to see that, too, but Apple's profits (AFAIK) would be higher the way things are now than if they opened up their proprietary platform to others. The status quo still wouldn't stop me from buying a PowerBook (if I could afford it, that is 😉).
At least Microsoft would have a genuine threat to their OS rather than the threat implied by any one form of Linux currently in the wild. The various Linux OS's are just too dependent on commandline and their automated shell applications, like for loading programs based on file extensions or loading programs in the different releases, would need to be unified if one is ever going to be a major consumer OS.
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Linux still has a way to go, as even the simplest text-based setup routine can seem intimidating to new users (maybe not for the rest of you guys, but when I first installed Linux, it seemed quite scary compared to Windows 98/2000 setup), but once it's up and running I'd say it's not that bad. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: theNEOone

OMFG you can't be serious!!!!!!!! My gut tells me that there has to be some kind of constitutional violation here. Common!!!!! Microsoft CANNOT be allowed to implement this!!

:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|
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Microsoft's leadership just doesn't seem to get it. The company has been seriously self-destructing. I'd hate to see their company crumble as a result of this bad management of development, but its impossible to change them. The good thing about it, though, is if Microsoft ever turned into a smaller player in the market, is that the price of an OS will be cut down to a more reasonable level.
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This won't kill Microsoft, so don't worry about that. They've already got agreements with the right people (AMD, Intel, others?) to imbed their cop chips in processors, motherboards, et. al. The relief at this time is that when it does come, it will be optional. Thus, if you want to run Linux, you can simply turn it off in the BIOS. Where the problem really lies is in the RIAA's CBDTPA, which would make technology like MS's TCPA mandatory for everyone.
I think that if OS X by Apple ever was launched to the x86 masses then it just might take off.
Click to expand...
It won't be happening. I'd love to see that, too, but Apple's profits (AFAIK) would be higher the way things are now than if they opened up their proprietary platform to others. The status quo still wouldn't stop me from buying a PowerBook (if I could afford it, that is 😉).
At least Microsoft would have a genuine threat to their OS rather than the threat implied by any one form of Linux currently in the wild. The various Linux OS's are just too dependent on commandline and their automated shell applications, like for loading programs based on file extensions or loading programs in the different releases, would need to be unified if one is ever going to be a major consumer OS.
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Linux still has a way to go, as even the simplest text-based setup routine can seem intimidating to new users (maybe not for the rest of you guys, but when I first installed Linux, it seemed quite scary compared to Windows 98/2000 setup), but once it's up and running I'd say it's not that bad. 🙂
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completely off topic, but you linux folk don't do a whole lot of flash programming do you?
 
Palladium: I like Knoppix.
Longhorn GUI: I don't care, as long as I can run LiteStep and once again break the M$ Eula for the sake of my sanity (and easy winamp controls). IMO, the extra GUI stuff is a waste. Where I should see another column of files, it wants to have a side-bar. Where I could see more rows, it wants to divide it up and thumbnail it...XP is bad enough as is, no need to compound it.
Even my non-geek friends don't like the way XP looks and feels by default.
Just give me a command line and take all the rest of it out *cough*LSXCommand 1.8.3.


completely off topic, but you linux folk don't do a whole lot of flash programming do you?
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If the Windows market begins to shrink, they will. Anyway, it's not like it'll hurt you...you can still run most macromedia apps on WinNT4 & Win98.
 
Originally posted by: yoda291
completely off topic, but you linux folk don't do a whole lot of flash programming do you?
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I can't speak for the others, but I haven't done any myself (if it's the Shockwave Flash plugin that you refer to). IMHO, those "flashy" (pardon the pun) web animations just get on my nerves; therefore, on my computer, Mozilla is flashless. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: theNEOone
Originally posted by: spankyOO7
Originally posted by: dparker
Ok, can somebody explain Palladium and why it is so bad?
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here
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OMFG you can't be serious!!!!!!!! My gut tells me that there has to be some kind of constitutional violation here. Common!!!!! Microsoft CANNOT be allowed to implement this!!

:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|:disgust::|
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So I wonder why people are looking forward to this because..... :|
 
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