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Lash444

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you can turn down the rhetoric.

The officer should have been fired.

Officers work in different depts and deal with different groups of offenders. Some offenders (esp. gangs) are very violent and a tough cop is necessary. Dealing with those people will bring complaints and incidents of violence that get added to their jacket.

And I understand, but part of their job is assessing the situation. I don't think his actions in either of these cases warranted his response. Just because 10% of his encounters require the use of force, doesn't mean he gets to use it in the other 90% of the cases.

Usually an officer deals with people who resist arrest or are under the influence of something and a violent altercation takes place. The officer is trained to deal with that in a quick and decisive manner. His superior will support him if he does everything by the book.
Usually? No. The MAJORITY of a beat cops job isn't violent altercations or people under the influence. You ahve been watching too many cop shows.

The support for this particular officer by his superior is for a show of solidarity. They know he is a problem cop, but support him for internal political reasons. He is an embarrassment to all the other officers and will eventually be dealt with. Its not so easy to just fire a union employee.

here's what I suggest: why don't you go on a ride-along and actually see what police have to deal with everyday before making generalizations about them.

I agree with your first paragraph, and i understand that. Find him something else to do. But you sound like part of the problem instead of the solution. I understand you want to defend LEOs regardless of what they are capable of doing, but if you can't admit to individual bad apples (and I think that at least from the information provided here that this one clearly is), and police departments don't deal with them either, then expect the community to be in an uproar. I understand that his job may very well be extremely dangerous, but his actions have already caused ones man life to be over, and id rather not see anyone else left to the same fate.
 

PingSpike

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Was hoping to hear about a new predator movie. About the predator that polices other predators. He could be a game warden type, making sure they didn't exceed their limits, or maybe he's chasing down the predator terrorists who hijacked the spaceship to alien world.

Honestly, this was also what I initially thought this was about as well. Or maybe a funny spoof comic with a predator wearing a cop uniform. And police brutality that ensued.
 

Iron Woode

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And I understand, but part of their job is assessing the situation. I don't think his actions in either of these cases warranted his response. Just because 10% of his encounters require the use of force, doesn't mean he gets to use it in the other 90% of the cases.


Usually? No. The MAJORITY of a beat cops job isn't violent altercations or people under the influence. You ahve been watching too many cop shows.



I agree with your first paragraph, and i understand that. Find him something else to do. But you sound like part of the problem instead of the solution. I understand you want to defend LEOs regardless of what they are capable of doing, but if you can't admit to individual bad apples (and I think that at least from the information provided here that this one clearly is), and police departments don't deal with them either, then expect the community to be in an uproar. I understand that his job may very well be extremely dangerous, but his actions have already caused ones man life to be over, and id rather not see anyone else left to the same fate.
wow.

you just don't get it.

I never said I want to defend LEO at all costs, you moron.

I explained the way it is.

I actually miss-typed the second paragraph. I did not mean to say that all officers deal with violent offenders all the time. I meant to say when it happens they usually have to deal with it by training, which to most cop haters, appears to be excessive force.

Due to the structure of LE hierarchy, things don't work the way you would like them. Getting rid of a bad cop is very difficult. This is not a private business where you can be fired any time for incompetence.
 

rasczak

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if you don't run, the odds of being roughed up are slim.

why antagonize a cop?

It happened to me. I was miss-identified by a cop. I dealt with it by being calm and having a rational discussion with the officer. It was all dealt with in 15 minutes.

I agree with you, but someone like that guy in the OP doesn't have a rational mind.
 

Gibsons

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Honestly, this was also what I initially thought this was about as well. Or maybe a funny spoof comic with a predator wearing a cop uniform. And police brutality that ensued.

Predator gets left behind on Earth. Learns to speak English. After a few years at area 51, they don't know what do do with him. Personality test shows he's suited to being a cop. Later on the mob has to get their own predator.. or alien, leading to the climactic battle.

Gold, Jerry gold!
 

DirkGently1

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In the UK there is a clear distinction between the good and bad guys. The Police here are a decent bunch! As an observer from the sidelines, it's sad to see you people giving away your civil liberties a piece at a time and even worse to witness the people who are supposed to defend the innocent, turning against them.
 

Lash444

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wow.

you just don't get it.

I never said I want to defend LEO at all costs, you moron.

I explained the way it is.

I actually miss-typed the second paragraph. I did not mean to say that all officers deal with violent offenders all the time. I meant to say when it happens they usually have to deal with it by training, which to most cop haters, appears to be excessive force.

Due to the structure of LE hierarchy, things don't work the way you would like them. Getting rid of a bad cop is very difficult. This is not a private business where you can be fired any time for incompetence.

Ah yes... well im going to be a "cop hater" here, and say that his "dealing" with these "violent offenders" sure did look like excessive force to my untrained eye.

And sorry, but I am not accepting the fact that a cop being protected by a union as a good enough answer to looking the other way after smashing in someone's head. Unions or not, if enough people raise a stink about it, something will be done.
 

Harrod

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Predator gets left behind on Earth. Learns to speak English. After a few years at area 51, they don't know what do do with him. Personality test shows he's suited to being a cop. Later on the mob has to get their own predator.. or alien, leading to the climactic battle.

Gold, Jerry gold!


I always enjoy reading posts like this.
 

MarkXIX

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Ah yes... well im going to be a "cop hater" here, and say that his "dealing" with these "violent offenders" sure did look like excessive force to my untrained eye.

And sorry, but I am not accepting the fact that a cop being protected by a union as a good enough answer to looking the other way after smashing in someone's head. Unions or not, if enough people raise a stink about it, something will be done.

We agree here, trust me, this guy should have been taken care of and should never again see the backside of a badge. As you imply, if the public were to protest outside the department and demand his termination, it would happen. The problem here is, the people that CAN and SHOULD have not done so and the department has no cover from a lawsuit because they made mistakes in retaining him early in his career.
 

thegimp03

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Hmm, so basically they're going to wait until the guy accidentally kills someone and then fire him.
 

PingSpike

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Hmm, so basically they're going to wait until the guy accidentally kills someone and then fire him.

Since he more or less already did kill some one he'll have to do better than that I think. That would probably just be a paid suspension.
 

mcmilljb

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I can't turn around and fire a deputy because I have concerns.

Haha! That's so fucking funny. Well guess what lady. The next time someone is injured by this sack of shit, this video of you will be played for the jury. And I believe the fine will be even larger than 10 million dollars.
 

BoberFett

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Haha! That's so fucking funny. Well guess what lady. The next time someone is injured by this sack of shit, this video of you will be played for the jury. And I believe the fine will be even larger than 10 million dollars.

Or better yet bring the sheriff up on charges of negligent homicide and put both pieces of shit away for life mixed in with a bunch of criminals that rape them daily. He knows that this guy is dangerous yet keeps him around, negligent homicide is exactly what a civilian would get charged with if they created such a situation knowingly.
 

twinrider1

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Game misconduct for boarding.

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PottedMeat

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Predator gets left behind on Earth. Learns to speak English. After a few years at area 51, they don't know what do do with him. Personality test shows he's suited to being a cop. Later on the mob has to get their own predator.. or alien, leading to the climactic battle.

Gold, Jerry gold!

will there be a romantic subplot?

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Soccerman06

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He doesnt look very a roid guy to me, just someone who actually lifts weights. Run from cops, get pushed into wall. What did he expect?
 

DangerAardvark

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you can turn down the rhetoric.

The officer should have been fired.

Officers work in different depts and deal with different groups of offenders. Some offenders (esp. gangs) are very violent and a tough cop is necessary. Dealing with those people will bring complaints and incidents of violence that get added to their jacket.

Usually an officer deals with people who resist arrest or are under the influence of something and a violent altercation takes place. The officer is trained to deal with that in a quick and decisive manner. His superior will support him if he does everything by the book.

The support for this particular officer by his superior is for a show of solidarity. They know he is a problem cop, but support him for internal political reasons. He is an embarrassment to all the other officers and will eventually be dealt with. Its not so easy to just fire a union employee.

here's what I suggest: why don't you go on a ride-along and actually see what police have to deal with everyday before making generalizations about them.

Who gives a FUCK? I'm sick of this excuse. The bottom line is that they're supposed to protect the public at the expense of their own safety. But when it comes down to it, they protect each other instead. Over and over and over again.
 

DangerAardvark

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Oct 22, 2004
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"I have a good relationship with the police. Why don't you just be middle-class, white, non-threatening and passive around authority like me? That way you don't have any rights to lose because you've already given them away."
 

leeland

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OK they don't say how he ran or what was the event or events that led to him running away...

while probably not a great move on that guys part it still isn't what I personally would call an action to fucking slam dance on him...sending him flying ten feet into a solid wall giving him brain damage.

Don't the cops use taser's for shit like this? I mean it seems like every two weeks a taser video is posted about something similar.

This doesn't even take into account the previous accounts of his poor judgement and history of over the top actions...any fucking sane person would walk in and probably see there is a pattern to this guy.

And to the dumb box Susan Rahr that is defended this guy...I would REALLY like to see her explain that to this guys wife that he is now brain damaged due to his Terry Tate move...

If she is so friggin' concerned...why not remove the problem...I would like to hear what she would have to say if someone she cared about was hurt in a similar incident.

As everyone says...there are dick cops...and personally I would agree that it is to some degree a power trip with these guys.

When I used to work in an E.R. and they would bring in suspects (DUI, Prison) they were fucking waiting for something to go down with a punk college kid so they could beat them down...it was kind of disturbing to me to watch 7-8-9-10 cops subdue a person that was already handcuffed to a bed so they could do something...
 

dali71

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In the UK there is a clear distinction between the good and bad guys. The Police here are a decent bunch! As an observer from the sidelines, it's sad to see you people giving away your civil liberties a piece at a time and even worse to witness the people who are supposed to defend the innocent, turning against them.

Why don't you ask Ian Tomlinson's family for their opinion of your police force? Or maybe Gerry Conlon?