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Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: bamacre
I am however not unsure. I am 100% sure that I will not be voting for McCain nor Obama.

Those who suggest otherwise can go to hell. We are most certainly decided.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
88,152
55,685
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Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Anyone that votes for either McCain or Obama because they believe they are a good choice to lead our country is a fool.
I think you're a bigger fool for voting third party.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Googer
I won't be voting for Obama/Biden, because I do not want higher taxes.

So I take it you make in excess of $250,000/year then?

No, I don't make that much. I make less. But I don't wan't any higher taxes anywhere. Less money in the economy is always a bad thing, especially when the top 5% employ the bottom 80%. Don't we need more jobs?
Bush already gave tax cuts to the rich, and look what we got: 600,000 jobs lost in 2008 so far.

McCain = More of the same

Not necessarily.

With Obama, at minimum we will end up with another Jimmy Carter that no one was happy with; who caused mass inflation with his taxes and drove the economy down.

Jobs are down not because of bush but because of high fuel costs and bad banking on a global scale. In 2007, the economy was doing quite well despite high fuel prices, thanks to the tax cuts.

I can vouch for the fact that my boss wants to hire more people, but cannot afford to due to high corporate taxes. Cut corporate taxes and more people will become employed, hence stirring the economy and allowing people who took out loans for more than they can afford to pay off their debts instead of passing it on to me and putting me more than $7,000+ in debt for something I am not responsible for.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.

Dude, the reason they let you out on day release is so than you can talk to normal people, you should take advantage of it.

 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.

Dude, the reason they let you out on day release is so than you can talk to normal people, you should take advantage of it.

That's pathetic, is that the best you can do? Attack the person and not the issue? That only means your talking points are very weak.

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.

Dude, the reason they let you out on day release is so than you can talk to normal people, you should take advantage of it.

That's pathetic, is that the best you can do? Attack the person and not the issue? That only means your talking points are very weak.

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.


Not really, I just don't care enough about you (or your election) to make the effort.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
57,529
3
0
Originally posted by: Googer

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.
So you say. You wouldn't be the first to manufacture friends and family serving over there just to justify your position.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Googer

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.
So you say. You wouldn't be the first to manufacture friends and family serving over there just to justify your position.

Not at all. I was there to watch the award presented.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
57,529
3
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Googer

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.
So you say. You wouldn't be the first to manufacture friends and family serving over there just to justify your position.

Not at all. I was there to watch the award presented.
Like I posted, so you say.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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7
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.

Dude, the reason they let you out on day release is so than you can talk to normal people, you should take advantage of it.

That's pathetic, is that the best you can do? Attack the person and not the issue? That only means your talking points are very weak.

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.


Not really, I just don't care enough about you (or your election) to make the effort.

You're more than likely not an American.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
7
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Googer

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.
So you say. You wouldn't be the first to manufacture friends and family serving over there just to justify your position.

Not at all. I was there to watch the award presented.
Like I posted, so you say.

I can prove it, but I don't trust you with my Identity.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.

Dude, the reason they let you out on day release is so than you can talk to normal people, you should take advantage of it.

That's pathetic, is that the best you can do? Attack the person and not the issue? That only means your talking points are very weak.

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.


Not really, I just don't care enough about you (or your election) to make the effort.

You're more than likely not an American.

or your election


<----- welshbloke.

:shocked: Wow, nothing gets past you does it?
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
Obama does not respect our soldiers, such behavior by Obama has been seen many times by many servicement. He does not care about them, but just the publicity he gets from being around them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNNQpg5hmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Do you really believe all this stuff you write? I mean this whole poll thing has turned into a thread for you to spout ridiculous talking points.

From your description Obama is an unqualified, troop hating, America disarming, economy destroying, genocidal, rich person hating (through raising taxes... bad!), and rich person lover (through bailouts... also bad!). And yet he's spanking your guy.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Obama is winning is because your characterization of him is wrong? Not that I have to wait for you to answer, of course you haven't.

Why do I believe it? Because I am close to people who have seen the same thing.

Dude, the reason they let you out on day release is so than you can talk to normal people, you should take advantage of it.

That's pathetic, is that the best you can do? Attack the person and not the issue? That only means your talking points are very weak.

My closest family members are in Iraq including some who have recognition from congress for their actions, they support the peace keeping operation and I do to.


Not really, I just don't care enough about you (or your election) to make the effort.

You're more than likely not an American.

or your election


<----- welshbloke.

:shocked: Wow, nothing gets past you does it?

Then why did you even bother reading this thread if you did not care, seems like hypocrisy to me.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Liberals always deny the facts when it contradicts their conspiratorial (un) truth.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Then why did you even bother reading this thread if you did not care, seems like hypocrisy to me.

I said I didnt care enough to make any effort, your just light entertainment!

 

Viditor

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 1999
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Googer
I won't be voting for Obama/Biden, because I do not want higher taxes.

So I take it you make in excess of $250,000/year then?

No, I don't make that much. I make less. But I don't wan't any higher taxes anywhere. Less money in the economy is always a bad thing, especially when the top 5% employ the bottom 80%. Don't we need more jobs?

You originally said you won't vote for Obama because you don't want higher taxes...
What you are saying now is that you don't mind higher taxes for yourself, as long as your boss gets his taxes cut so he can hire an extra person...is that it?
Because Obama is promising a tax cut for you, just not your boss...while McCain will not cut your taxes at all because that way he can't afford the tax cut for your boss.
So which is it?
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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It seems as if every time a new threat on the American security shows up, Obama seems to come out the next day and oppose defending ourselves against it. He like Clinton will cut our intelligence spending that was one factor that led to 9-11-2001 attacks on NYC, DC, and PA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
88,152
55,685
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Originally posted by: Googer
It seems as if every time a new threat on the American security shows up, Obama seems to come out the next day and oppose defending ourselves against it. He like Clinton will cut our intelligence spending that was one factor that led to 9-11-2001 attacks on NYC, DC, and PA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw

Okay, enough out of you. You're obviously just trolling now. Can we get this thread locked?
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Googer
It seems as if every time a new threat on the American security shows up, Obama seems to come out the next day and oppose defending ourselves against it. He like Clinton will cut our intelligence spending that was one factor that led to 9-11-2001 attacks on NYC, DC, and PA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw

Okay, enough out of you. You're obviously just trolling now. Can we get this thread locked?

You are crying foul because you have been presented with FACTS that contradict your beliefs and make you question yourself. Typical liberal mindset, when a lib looks bad he tries to censor the messenger. That's the same tactic used by evil dictators world wide; so don't vote democratic unless you want a Stalin like government.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
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Let Googer bathe in his own filth. This thread is approaching 3:1 territory Obama/McCain.

People like Googer are on the wrong side of history this election.