Powell: Arab Response to Berg Insufficient

[peonyu]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: SampSon

THEN WHO THE FVUCK ARE YOU TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON ALL MUSLIMS??

im trying to prove that my intentions are peacefull. Expresseing my point of view.

How the hell am I passing judgement on ANYONE except YOUR stupid ass?

Your intentions are not peaceful, you have already spewed the same hypocracy you say you are trying to fight.

Sersiously, stfu. You just make you and your "cause" look REALLY stupid.

Yes, just what we need, another cold war.

Go back under your rock.

Why is it always Islamic extremists doing these things? They are the ones strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses and nightclubs. They are the ones flying planes into buildings. They are the ones kidnapping people and beheading them or threatening to burn them alive. Not referring to Iraq specifically, but terrorism in general.

Nobody else is doing any of this.

Islam = a bad thing. (my opinion)

SEE!!!

So ? Islam can claim to be peaceful all it wants, but that doesnt matter at all - its the people who make a religion good or bad.
So considering that alot of Arab people condone hijacking planes and steering them towards highly populated buildings, and condone strapping TNT to thier chests and blowing up bus's full of innocent children, then doesnt that strike you as bad religion ?

 

[TommyVercetti]

Posted by a user named Hatim? Hmm.. Are you by chance Hatim Tai?

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: hatim
Ok...Im human.

I made a mistake by saying "all americans were evil" forgive if possible. But, the governments are afterall chosen by the people of America...

Ofcourse I condemn the brutal murder of Berg. No way acceptable in any religion for that matther of fact!!! these terrorists are mentally disturbed, wrongly guided people.

Is the government of Syria, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc not chosen by the people? Was Saddam's not chosen by the people? Of course, not, but I still want to here how the US is evil. Governments rule the people, but the American system actually lets the people choose things occasionally.

Thats one of the many places where America is far ahead.

 

[DigDug]

Islam only orders killing of atheists!

Any religion ordering the killing of anybody is worth of contempt. And HARDLY a religion of peace. 🙂

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Islam only orders killing of atheists!

Huh? Islam allows killing of atheists?

Not just "allows" it, apparently, but "orders" it. What an amazingly enlightned point of view.

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

These terrorists donot represent the whole of the ARAB world! They are a few criminals there. It does not mean that the whole muslim world should be held accountable for the act of a few?

Why is it always Islamic extremists doing these things? They are the ones strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses and nightclubs. They are the ones flying planes into buildings. They are the ones kidnapping people and beheading them or threatening to burn them alive. Not referring to Iraq specifically, but terrorism in general.

Nobody else is doing any of this.

Islam = a bad thing. (my opinion)

Yeah, damn those IRA and ETA Muslims eh?

 

ahhahaah
a proper execution based on religion?

When will that whole area get out of the dark ages?

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Posted by a user named Hatim? Hmm.. Are you by chance Hatim Tai?

lol no 😛

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Islam only orders killing of atheists!

Huh? Islam allows killing of atheists?

Not just "allows" it, apparently, but "orders" it. What an amazingly enlightned point of view.

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

You're trolling. Islam does not promote this. Go away now.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Islam only orders killing of atheists!

Huh? Islam allows killing of atheists?

Not just "allows" it, apparently, but "orders" it. What an amazingly enlightned point of view.

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

That's pretty messed up. Not really very peaceful at all. Do you believe in that, too? WTF is a proper execution?

But it's like most other religions anyways...not very tolerant.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Islam only orders killing of atheists!

Huh? Islam allows killing of atheists?

Not just "allows" it, apparently, but "orders" it. What an amazingly enlightned point of view.

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

This too will get you interesting and stimulating responses.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: peonyu

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: SampSon

THEN WHO THE FVUCK ARE YOU TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON ALL MUSLIMS??

im trying to prove that my intentions are peacefull. Expresseing my point of view.

How the hell am I passing judgement on ANYONE except YOUR stupid ass?

Your intentions are not peaceful, you have already spewed the same hypocracy you say you are trying to fight.

Sersiously, stfu. You just make you and your "cause" look REALLY stupid.

Yes, just what we need, another cold war.

Go back under your rock.

Why is it always Islamic extremists doing these things? They are the ones strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses and nightclubs. They are the ones flying planes into buildings. They are the ones kidnapping people and beheading them or threatening to burn them alive. Not referring to Iraq specifically, but terrorism in general.

Nobody else is doing any of this.

Islam = a bad thing. (my opinion)

SEE!!!

So ? Islam can claim to be peaceful all it wants, but that doesnt matter at all - its the people who make a religion good or bad.
So considering that alot of Arab people condone hijacking planes and steering them towards highly populated buildings, and condone strapping TNT to thier chests and blowing up bus's full of innocent children, then doesnt that strike you as bad religion ?

They do it in name of religion. Why look it with that point-of-view? Why not an earthling killing earthling?

 

hatim are you like 12?

 

[DigDug]

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

I REPEAT. Any religion ordering the killing of anybody is worth of contempt. And HARDLY a religion of peace. Whats worse is that Islam labotomizes its followers. So anyone who can gain recognition among a group of such zombies, has free reign to control them by twisting his own agenda into to fit the religious allowances for violence. If this religion didn't have such provisions in the first place, getting such zombies to kill would be much harder. This is the essence of our current world affairs with Islam.

Some islamic "truths"
1. While there is no guarantee to heaven, death by martyrdom is one way.
2. While one is severely proscribed from sexual freedom in this world, death by martydom allows for 72 virgins.
3. Everything above is absolute truth as Allah says and you are not to question it.


Now, tell me, isn't this brain-programming ripe for abuse by those who grab control?

 

[The Green Bean]

Islam, tolerates all religions. We beleive in all previous prophets. All previos religions. Including; Jewism and christianlity. All prophets mentioned in the Quran are similar to those mentioned in the bible.

As far as atheists are concerned, ive heard this frm someone. Im just 16yrs old so i might not be 100% informed. But there are certain "rules" in that. Its like a consitution.

Islamic punishments may soud harsh, but they are are said to prevent crimes. Saudi Arabia follows some laws also.
1. Chopping off hands for stealing
2. Blood for Blood (or money of one prefers)

at a personal level, I cant understand how someone can not beleive in GOD. Again thts just my opinion.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: DigDug

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

I REPEAT. Any religion ordering the killing of anybody is worth of contempt. And HARDLY a religion of peace. Whats worse is that Islam labotomizes its followers. So anyone who can gain recognition among a group of such zombies, has free reign to control them by twisting his own agenda into to fit the religious allowances for violence. If this religion didn't have such provisions in the first place, getting such zombies to kill would be much harder. This is the essence of our current world affairs with Islam.

Some islamic "truths"
1. While there is no guarantee to heaven, death by martyrdom is one way.
2. While one is severely proscribed from sexual freedom in this world, death by martydom allows for 72 virgins.
3. Everything above is absolute truth as Allah says and you are not to question it.


Now, tell me, isn't this brain-programming ripe for abuse by those who grab control?

I've not studied the religion much, though I still believe that hatim is probably a white guy who lives in Montana and is just looking for ways to rile people up against the middle east.

Still, any provisions within a religion can be used as you said, and it's especially easier on an uneducated individual, and given that so many of the people in the particularly harsh islamic states lack an education or availability of alternate ideas, they are easily impressed upon.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

These terrorists donot represent the whole of the ARAB world! They are a few criminals there. It does not mean that the whole muslim world should be held accountable for the act of a few?

Why is it always Islamic extremists doing these things? They are the ones strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses and nightclubs. They are the ones flying planes into buildings. They are the ones kidnapping people and beheading them or threatening to burn them alive. Not referring to Iraq specifically, but terrorism in general.

Nobody else is doing any of this.

Islam = a bad thing. (my opinion)

Yeah, damn those IRA and ETA Muslims eh?

Link to even ONE example of an IRA suicide bombing, beheading, or incident where they crashed a plane into a building to kill thousands of people?

 

[StageLeft]

Im just 16yrs old so i might not be 100% informed.

I've heard said, and it makes sense, that when one becomes open to a new religion and starts to believe in it, this is the time they need proper guidance the most, because without it they can be easily led down the wrong path. You'd do well to heed such advice, because your views are seriously fvcked up, if I do say so myself.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

These terrorists donot represent the whole of the ARAB world! They are a few criminals there. It does not mean that the whole muslim world should be held accountable for the act of a few?

Why is it always Islamic extremists doing these things? They are the ones strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses and nightclubs. They are the ones flying planes into buildings. They are the ones kidnapping people and beheading them or threatening to burn them alive. Not referring to Iraq specifically, but terrorism in general.

Nobody else is doing any of this.

Islam = a bad thing. (my opinion)

Yeah, damn those IRA and ETA Muslims eh?

Link to even ONE example of an IRA suicide bombing, beheading, or incident where they crashed a plane into a building to kill thousands of people?

also another constraint is: where the terrorists have last names that start with the letter 'M'

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: hatim
Islam, tolerates all religions. We beleive in all previous prophets. All previos religions. Including; Jewism and christianlity. All prophets mentioned in the Quran are similar to those mentioned in the bible.

As far as atheists are concerned, ive heard this frm someone. Im just 16yrs old so i might not be 100% informed. But there are certain "rules" in that. Its like a consitution.

Islamic punishments may soud harsh, but they are are said to prevent crimes. Saudi Arabia follows some laws also.
1. Chopping off hands for stealing
2. Blood for Blood (or money of one prefers)

at a personal level, I cant understand how someone can not beleive in GOD. Again thts just my opinion.

Are you sure that Islam tolerates all religions? Or just 'people of the book' or whatever?

Islam, like most other religions, is messed up.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: DigDug

Killing of atheists; That also has conditions. Only if there is a muslim goverment in place. And that person is licing there. He is then given a choice if he wishes to convert. Not done in a inhumane manner like these terrorists do it. A proper exectution

I REPEAT. Any religion ordering the killing of anybody is worth of contempt. And HARDLY a religion of peace. Whats worse is that Islam labotomizes its followers. So anyone who can gain recognition among a group of such zombies, has free reign to control them by twisting his own agenda into to fit the religious allowances for violence. If this religion didn't have such provisions in the first place, getting such zombies to kill would be much harder. This is the essence of our current world affairs with Islam.

Some islamic "truths"
1. While there is no guarantee to heaven, death by martyrdom is one way.
2. While one is severely proscribed from sexual freedom in this world, death by martydom allows for 72 virgins.
3. Everything above is absolute truth as Allah says and you are not to question it.


Now, tell me, isn't this brain-programming ripe for abuse by those who grab control?

what is martydom??? Its not suicide bombings surely!!!

I advice everyone to please have some knowlege of ISLAM before posting.

And killing of atheists. That would only happen in an ISLAMIC country to its residence. That would be a local matter would it not? If you read ISLAMIC law, it is very interesting indeed. Many things are similar to the modern US consitution. Atheism relates to thinking tht he himslelf is GOD. that would be destructive. Or not?

 

[peonyu]

Hatim has got that somewhat wrong... Islam condones outright killing of people who are not Muslim, Christian, or Jewish. So it would be OK to kill a Hindu or buddhist [or athiest,wiccan etc] just for the he11 of it if your a muslim, but you cant kill christians or jews like that since muhammed seemed to have "some" respect for them in his day. For the christian and the jew according to Islam, they can either be enslaved under the laws of Shariah [this is still common today, especially in Sudan], OR, allowed to be free and become a 'dhimmi' [meaning one who owes islam money for not being a muslim- which is practiced today in Saudi arabia-] but must pay taxes to the Imman every month for not being a muslim.

yes its still intolerant bullsh1t, but atleast it has some rules right...........

 

[DigDug]

Damn, you are stupid. WHATEVER martyrdom means is up to the head honcho who controls this muslim zombies. Why? Because there is no better way to control people than have them believe in the absolute truth of something that is in fact relative and interpretable.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

These terrorists donot represent the whole of the ARAB world! They are a few criminals there. It does not mean that the whole muslim world should be held accountable for the act of a few?

Why is it always Islamic extremists doing these things? They are the ones strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses and nightclubs. They are the ones flying planes into buildings. They are the ones kidnapping people and beheading them or threatening to burn them alive. Not referring to Iraq specifically, but terrorism in general.

Nobody else is doing any of this.

Islam = a bad thing. (my opinion)

Yeah, damn those IRA and ETA Muslims eh?

Link to even ONE example of an IRA suicide bombing, beheading, or incident where they crashed a plane into a building to kill thousands of people?

also another constraint is: where the terrorists have last names that start with the letter 'M'

Actually, my point is legitimate: The difference is that the people (if you can call them that) who perpetrate acts of Islamic terrorism are doing so with religious motivations. The suicide bomber (and the airplane pilots) believed that they were going to heaven. Those who carried out beheadings in both Iraq and in the Philippines believed they were doing the right thing as per their religion. I am not condoning the IRA at all, but the actions they perform are entirely political. Yes, they happen to be Catholics who are fighting Protestants, but they do not blow themselves up in the name of their religion.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: hatim
what is martydom??? Its not suicide bombings surely!!!

I advice everyone to please have some knowlege of ISLAM before posting.

And killing of atheists. That would only happen in an ISLAMIC country to its residence. That would be a local matter would it not? If you read ISLAMIC law, it is very interesting indeed. Many things are similar to the modern US consitution. Atheism relates to thinking tht he himslelf is GOD. that would be destructive. Or not?

Kid, you are messed up. Atheists don't think that they are God.

Face it. Islam, like most other religions, is a religion of hate.

The fact that you seem to be OK with the KILLING of Atheists (people that are simply different than you), is DISGUSTING. Any Islamic (or any other country) country that kills people because they aren't Islamic are barbaric. It doesn't matter if it's a local issue or not. It's simply barbaric.