Pot is safer then booze

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Nik

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: SunSamurai
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: IGBT
the desire to intoxicate and play yoyo with brain chemistry is a mental disorder. if you get high, you have a problem you need to deal with.

Mental disorder?

It's called having fun.


there are plenty of other ways of having fun which are substance free.
It is possible to have fun without things which are illegal, unhealthy, and immoral.

Uptight much?

You guys get indignant that he judges your lifestyle and then turn right around and judge his, heh.

We're judging his lifestyle because we've been there and we know where he's coming from. Not only is he morally retarded, he isn't even willing to see the other side of the coin. His opinion hardly deserves any respect at all. What do you expect us to do?

"Oh, you're totally right! You have a valid point based on sound, reasonable logic!"

Please...
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: IGBT
the desire to intoxicate and play yoyo with brain chemistry is a mental disorder. if you get high, you have a problem you need to deal with.

Mental disorder?

It's called having fun.


there are plenty of other ways of having fun which are substance free.
It is possible to have fun without things which are illegal, unhealthy, and immoral.

Are you honestly basing your view on morality on what the government tells you is legal or not? In other words it's "moral" to kill a bunch of people in a faraway country that ends up being an ally a few years after the war, but it's immoral to share a joint with them?


my "morality" is based on what my king james bible tell me.
I dont need drugs, I dont need to be drunk, I dont need a prostitute.
I still have plenty of fun.

get over yourselves.

Before hiding behind your fallible bible and plugging your ears....have you ever thought that maybe God put marijuana here for us to enjoy? Surely he wasn't just about all work and no play.

as im sure he put prostitutes here for you to enjoy... but only those who abstain will inherit his kingdom.

yeah that's nice and all but here just take a hit of this, watch your opinion change quicker then you can decide whether you want chocolate or vanilla
 

Mr. Lennon

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: IGBT
the desire to intoxicate and play yoyo with brain chemistry is a mental disorder. if you get high, you have a problem you need to deal with.

Mental disorder?

It's called having fun.


there are plenty of other ways of having fun which are substance free.
It is possible to have fun without things which are illegal, unhealthy, and immoral.

Are you honestly basing your view on morality on what the government tells you is legal or not? In other words it's "moral" to kill a bunch of people in a faraway country that ends up being an ally a few years after the war, but it's immoral to share a joint with them?


my "morality" is based on what my king james bible tell me.
I dont need drugs, I dont need to be drunk, I dont need a prostitute.
I still have plenty of fun.

get over yourselves.

Before hiding behind your fallible bible and plugging your ears....have you ever thought that maybe God put marijuana here for us to enjoy? Surely he wasn't just about all work and no play.

as im sure he put prostitutes here for you to enjoy... but only those who abstain will inherit his kingdom.

Becoming a prostitute is a bad choice made by a human.

Marijuana on the other hand is a weed that happens to be one of the best natural medicines on our planet. It also has many other uses such as being made into hemp.

God knew damn right what he was doing when he put it here :)
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: sao123
as im sure he put prostitutes here for you to enjoy... but only those who abstain will inherit his kingdom.

Where's your proof? Prove god exists. Prove the Bible is right. Prove that there even IS a kingdom to inherit.

In the meantime, while you're collecting all of your evidence (SNICKER), we'll go right on showing physicians checking people head to toe and diagnosing them 100% healthy after decades of smoking pot.
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: IGBT
the desire to intoxicate and play yoyo with brain chemistry is a mental disorder. if you get high, you have a problem you need to deal with.

Mental disorder?

It's called having fun.


there are plenty of other ways of having fun which are substance free.
It is possible to have fun without things which are illegal, unhealthy, and immoral.

Are you honestly basing your view on morality on what the government tells you is legal or not? In other words it's "moral" to kill a bunch of people in a faraway country that ends up being an ally a few years after the war, but it's immoral to share a joint with them?


my "morality" is based on what my king james bible tell me.
I dont need drugs, I dont need to be drunk, I dont need a prostitute.
I still have plenty of fun.

get over yourselves.

Before hiding behind your fallible bible and plugging your ears....have you ever thought that maybe God put marijuana here for us to enjoy? Surely he wasn't just about all work and no play.

as im sure he put prostitutes here for you to enjoy... but only those who abstain will inherit his kingdom.

Becoming a prostitute is a choice made by a human.

Marijuana on the other hand is a weed that happens to be one of the best natural medicines on our planet. It also has many other uses such as being made into hemp.

question : one of my buddys came up with one of those crazy why its illegal conspiracy theory and he mentioned that hemp can produce oil and were growing our own oil in our backyard, then companies like shell and chevron loose profit, and big company have alot of power. now im not saying chevron made pot illegal but if it was true that hemp produced oil wouldn't the cost of oil go down? thus having some cheap fucking gas?
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: sao123
as im sure he put prostitutes here for you to enjoy... but only those who abstain will inherit his kingdom.

Where's your proof? Prove god exists. Prove the Bible is right. Prove that there even IS a kingdom to inherit.

In the meantime, while you're collecting all of your evidence (SNICKER), we'll go right on showing physicians checking people head to toe and diagnosing them 100% healthy after decades of smoking pot.

save that for another thread another time, lets not get this thread locked because were arguing over religious beliefs.
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: Heller
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: sao123
as im sure he put prostitutes here for you to enjoy... but only those who abstain will inherit his kingdom.

Where's your proof? Prove god exists. Prove the Bible is right. Prove that there even IS a kingdom to inherit.

In the meantime, while you're collecting all of your evidence (SNICKER), we'll go right on showing physicians checking people head to toe and diagnosing them 100% healthy after decades of smoking pot.

save that for another thread another time, lets not get this thread locked because were arguing over religious beliefs.

His religious beliefs are his foundation for his ridiculous arguments. If you destroy the foundation for his arguments (because we've already destroyed his arguments themselves), maybe he'll just stop arguing?
 

Heller

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Im not arguing with you Nik, im just saying let him think what he wants, you and i both know until he smokes a Jay his opinion is not changing and hes going to go back under the religious rock hes been hiding under.

Now stop chiefing and pass that, don't be rude.
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: Heller
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: Heller
Originally posted by: Regs
America is too good for that Shiznet get over it.

that's cause ur puffin on the regs,

puff on this

guarantee you change ur mind.

That looks absolutely wonderful!!! Been many years since I have seen bud that good. I quite about 10 years ago. Is that good stuff prolific these days?

haha no way sir, that came from cali medical club all the way to the FL, thats a 9/10 and its a ,very dense but definite one hitter quitter.

that stuff comes around once or twice a year in my area if your lucky, and its expensive.

Happy to live by said cali medical clubs :)

Exotic strains go for $5k a pound in my area, its insane.
Im deff going to cali some time in my life and gonna go check out the clubs and oaksterdam, i'd prob never come home.
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Originally posted by: IGBT
the desire to intoxicate and play yoyo with brain chemistry is a mental disorder. if you get high, you have a problem you need to deal with.

Mental disorder?

It's called having fun.


there are plenty of other ways of having fun which are substance free.
It is possible to have fun without things which are illegal, unhealthy, and immoral.

Are you honestly basing your view on morality on what the government tells you is legal or not? In other words it's "moral" to kill a bunch of people in a faraway country that ends up being an ally a few years after the war, but it's immoral to share a joint with them?


my "morality" is based on what my king james bible tell me.
I dont need drugs, I dont need to be drunk, I dont need a prostitute.
I still have plenty of fun.

get over yourselves.

You really think being nosy, holier-than-thou and judgemental is a better way to go through life than puffing some herb now and then?
 

Gamingphreek

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my "morality" is based on what my king james bible tell me.
I dont need drugs, I dont need to be drunk, I dont need a prostitute.
I still have plenty of fun.

get over yourselves.

I'm right there with you (Though I use NIV) -
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?". 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
In addition to that, honestly I am dumb/goofy enough without being under the influence of anything :). I turned 21 and had 1 beer (Kinda pissed me off because I then couldn't finish the Filet Mignon Steak my friends got me).

All the people who smoke marijuana are kinda funny - Back a couple posts someone mentioned that everything went white and they passed out for a couple minutes. That sound perfectly healthy :roll:

Where's your proof? Prove god exists. Prove the Bible is right. Prove that there even IS a kingdom to inherit.

How would you like me to prove this? God cannot be proven by a series of mathematical or empirical formulas. There is enough evidence and writings to lead you to the cross roads where you walk by faith or you choose to not believe. I don't want to hijack this thread, but would be more than happy to discuss back and forth via PM. I can also recommend Mere Christianity which essentially goes about and does just what you ask - attempts to prove the existence of Christ.

-Kevin

(As a side note: Eli - you mentioned a couple posts ago that you were engaged - not sure how long ya'll have been engaged - just wanted to say congratulations and wish you both the best of luck :beer: :))
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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marijuana is safer than religion

and playing along, if god didn't want us to smoke marijuana he wouldn't have made it so awesome.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Ns1
marijuana is safer than religion

Whoever said religion is safe? ;)

It is quite the opposite if you think about it - I shudder to think of the people who felt called to go to Uganda and preach there. The movie Invisible Children was incredibly powerful to me - seeing people no older than myself (21) saying tearful good byes to their parents as they went into a country where there was a very strong chance they could never return.

-Kevin

and playing along, if god didn't want us to smoke marijuana he wouldn't have made it so awesome.

There are a lot of things in this world that was placed here by God and convoluted by man (and Satan). Just because someone is a prostitute, would you think that (assuming you believe in this instance) God put her there for your... "benefit"?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

There are a lot of things in this world that was placed here by God and convoluted by man (and Satan). Just because someone is a prostitute, would you think that (assuming you believe in this instance) God put her there for your... "benefit"?

She needs money, I need to get laid. I see no problems here.

So I guess I owe God a big thank you!
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

There are a lot of things in this world that was placed here by God and convoluted by man (and Satan). Just because someone is a prostitute, would you think that (assuming you believe in this instance) God put her there for your... "benefit"?

She needs money, I need to get laid. I see no problems here.

So I guess I owe God a big thank you!

my dog . get em'
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Heller
Im not arguing with you Nik, im just saying let him think what he wants, you and i both know until he smokes a Jay his opinion is not changing and hes going to go back under the religious rock hes been hiding under.

smoking wont do it. a beer wont do it. he has to learn to think for himself instead of relying on a book he may or may not have fully read as well as what he has been told by the people who brought him up.

growing up i was inundated with religion. these rules, those rules, do this, act like that, go here, blah blah. it never sat right with me, and after exposure to some reason and logic (thank you, interwebs, of all things) as well as taking the initiative to read the bible myself (thanks for the suggestion, pastor) i realized that i didnt want the first thing to do with that book.

i dont have a problem if people want to abstain from something. booze, weed, other drugs, caffeine, whatever. i like a good beer or some wine or something, but its rare (a couple times a year or so) that i actually bother to get drunk, and I can count on two hands the number of times Ive smoked pot. if you dont like it, or dont want it...fine. but please, for the love of your own free will, have a better reason than "this book said not to do it"

but the "this book said not to do it" argument is horrible. its a crutch for a lack of logical though and as civilized humans, we have access to logic and reason its a shame that anyone could come up with such a weak reason for anything.

a beer or two wont kill you or hurt your body, unless youre unfortunate enough to be allergic to alcohol. a joint or two isnt going to kill you. even making them part of a regular lifestyle, in moderation, hasnt been shown to be a horrible thing.

while im at it, cholesterol in a steak or two wont be the end of you...and keep in mind, please, that heart disease is a major killer, with cholesterol intake a prime factor, and he didnt have any qualms about the steak he was eating. it was the beer that bothered him :roll:
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

There are a lot of things in this world that was placed here by God and convoluted by man (and Satan). Just because someone is a prostitute, would you think that (assuming you believe in this instance) God put her there for your... "benefit"?

She needs money, I need to get laid. I see no problems here.

So I guess I owe God a big thank you!

Hmm - honestly I can't say I expected anything less from ATOT ;)

Better example - you get a pistol. Do you think God put it there for you to kill the next person who looks at you wrong? If you give an infant a rattle, is that infant guaranteed to just shake it like you intended it?

You are intelligent - you understand the point I am trying to make. You are not limited to the 1 purpose for an item.

-Kevin
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Hmm - honestly I can't say I expected anything less from ATOT ;)

Better example - you get a pistol. Do you think God put it there for you to kill the next person who looks at you wrong? If you give an infant a rattle, is that infant guaranteed to just shake it like you intended it?

You are intelligent - you the point I am trying to make. You are not limited to the 1 purpose for an item.

-Kevin

The difference there, then, is that I am having a "negative impact" on another person

So stealing, vandalizing, killing, raping, etc, etc, etc, are all clearly no dice. Me banging a prostitute on Sunday means that either I'm putting food on her table or crack in her veins - the details are not important to me lol


Me smoking a blunt in my apartment with the gf every sunday affects no one. It is FAR less damaging than this

Heath Bar Shake
Serving size 1
Calories 2310
Calories from fat 970
Total fat 108g (166%)
Saturated fat 64g (320%)
Trans fat 2.5g
Cholesterol 295mg (98%)
Sodium 1560mg (65%)
Total carbohydrate 303g (101%)
Dietary fiber 2g (8% )
Sugars 266g
Protein 35g


As a final tie in to religion, I have never heard of somebody killing another in the name of marijuana. I cannot say the same about god.