Post your ideas on who might help the Democrats win 2028.

[MrSquished]

So would democrats have been better with a platform to the right or to the left?

Let's see they went right, and fucking lost. You want them to go more right? Was it not enough to the right?

 

[MrSquished]

Any fucking Democrat who is going to suggest that the Democrats continue to go more right is a fucking idiot. They don't belong in the party.

Especially those who fought against Biden dropping out like he said he was. Especially those fucking morons.

You helped give this to us. You helped give us this loss and I will never forgive you fuckers for this shit.

 

[fskimospy]

To the left. It's stupid to try to be republican lite when voters can just get the real thing with Trump.

Can you provide me with any evidence that the 2024 electorate wanted a more liberal candidate?

 

[pmv]

I don't get why every time the centrist project fails the answer is always to try the same again but a bit further to the right.

Corbyn's loss in 2019 here is constantly cited as an example of how the left lose (despite the fact he got more votes than Starmer did when he won), yet some how centre-right types can lose again-and-again-and-again and it's never their fault.

 

[gothuevos]

Any fucking Democrat who is going to suggest that the Democrats continue to go more right is a fucking idiot. They don't belong in the party.

Especially those who fought against Biden dropping out like he said he was. Especially those fucking morons.

You helped give this to us. You helped give us this loss and I will never forgive you fuckers for this shit.

Who cares? The party is dead. Or at least will be relevant for another 12 years.

 

[evident]

Can you provide me with any evidence that the 2024 electorate wanted a more liberal candidate?

I think the pro palestinian coalition would have bothered to vote for a D candidate if they were more outspoken than israel. I had a terrible gut feeling when they axed the palestinian speaker at the DNC that they totally ignored the demands of that faction. Would that have made the difference in some of the swing states? michigan?

 

[fskimospy]

I think the pro palestinian coalition would have bothered to vote for a D candidate if they were more outspoken than israel. I had a terrible gut feeling when they axed the palestinian speaker at the DNC that they totally ignored the demands of that faction. Would that have made the difference in some of the swing states? michigan?

So to be clear you think people who supported Palestine did not vote for Harris and instead supported the person affirmatively in favor of Palestinian genocide?

 

[Indus]

So to be clear you think people who supported Palestine did not vote for Harris and instead supported the person affirmatively in favor of Palestinian genocide?

Why did Harris underperform Biden when Senators and Congressmen didn't?

 

[fskimospy]

Why did Harris underperform Biden when Senators and Congressmen didn't?

lots of them did!

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Can you provide me with any evidence that the 2024 electorate wanted a more liberal candidate?

I didn't say a liberal candidate; that's all we have had for decades from the DNC. I said one more to the left. I still remember the fit you threw when I told you how much inflation at the grocery store was raping the working class and all I heard was greatest economy ever. And low and behold the DNC managed to lose to one of the worst and most hated candidates we have ever seen for a second time because of inflation and because voters hate the DNC political machine. This moving to the right shit didn't work in 2024, it didn't work in 2016, and its questionable whether it really did in 2020 either considering Biden didn't exactly mop the floor with an incredibly weak incumbent.

 

[MrSquished]

this guy @fskimospy is still a fucking idiot. I mean this election should have been a smack in the face to these morons, but instead they will double down on their stupidity, WHICH GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW!

nuts.

 

[MrSquished]

I didn't say a liberal candidate; that's all we have had for decades from the DNC. I said one more to the left. I still remember the fit you threw when I told you how much inflation at the grocery store was raping the working class and all I heard was greatest economy ever. And low and behold the DNC managed to lose to one of the worst and most hated candidates we have ever seen for a second time because of inflation and because voters hate the DNC political machine. This moving to the right shit didn't work in 2024, it didn't work in 2016, and its questionable whether it really did in 2020 either considering Biden didn't exactly mop the floor with an incredibly weak incumbent.

exactly. this guy will never learn.

campaigning left does not mean radical left, but then again these folks thought Biden was the absolute best thing the Dems could have done in 2024, even when we had a chance at a primary. And they are doubling down. These people are fucking mental midgets.

 

[rommelrommel]

Is there a Bernie that's under 60?

 

[fskimospy]

I didn't say a liberal candidate; that's all we have had for decades from the DNC. I said one more to the left. I still remember the fit you threw when I told you how much inflation at the grocery store was raping the working class and all I heard was greatest economy ever. And lo and behold the DNC managed to lose to one of the worst and most hated candidates we have ever seen for a second time because of inflation and because voters hate the DNC political machine. This moving to the right shit didn't work in 2024, it didn't work in 2016, and its questionable whether it really did in 2020 either considering Biden didn't exactly mop the floor with an incredibly weak incumbent.

So - to the right or to the left.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

So - to the right or to the left.

This moving to the right shit has utterly failed 2 out of 3 times now to an incredibly weak opponent and your stubborn ass still thinks it should be the DNC's strategy.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

exactly. this guy will never learn.

campaigning left does not mean radical left, but then again these folks thought Biden was the absolute best thing the Dems could have done in 2024, even when we had a chance at a primary. And they are doubling down. These people are fucking mental midgets.

That guy still believes Schumer's crap about how its ok to lose working class voters because they will get two repbulican voters from the suburbs for each scrub working class one they lose. Fucking limousine liberals.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Is there a Bernie that's under 60?

AOC.

 

[fskimospy]

This moving to the right shit has utterly failed 2 out of 3 times now to an incredibly weak opponent and your stubborn ass still thinks it should be the DNC's strategy.

So to be clear you think the democrats would be more successful electorally if they moved left?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

So to be clear you think the democrats would be more successful electorally if they moved left?

I already told you to the left. What's wrong with you?

 

[fskimospy]

I already told you to the left. What's wrong with you?

Can you show me an election where your strategy was successful?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Can you show me an election where your strategy was successful?

FDR was pretty fucking successful running genuinely from the left

 

[MrSquished]

FDR was pretty fucking successful running genuinely from the left

For a better recent example. Mr. Fucking Obama himself.

And yes, limousine liberal is the best way to describe that dipshit. His exact way of thinking cost us this election cycle, and he wants to double down. It's an illness.

 

[fskimospy]

FDR was pretty fucking successful running genuinely from the left

Great. So a century ago.

Any new ones?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

For a better recent example. Mr. Fucking Obama himself.

2008 Obama when he ran on being the next FDR. 2012 Obama only won because Romney ran on killing Medicare.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Great. So a century ago.

Any new ones?

Tell me how moving to the right worked this time. Tell me why the fuck the DNC should keep doing it after it cost them elections twice against weak ass Trump.