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GeekDrew

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Being gay is not a choice. You're gay. There are plenty of happy and successful gays in the world. Just look at Elton John (yeah ok, that's stereotypical, but I'm right, aren't I?)
Yeah, you're right... I know that there are many successful gays out there. I will (hopefully) be one too (assuming I still consider myself gay in the future).
Seriously, a good start is the book The Multi Orgasmic Man, to learn techniques to control and focus sexual energy.
I'll have to look it up!
well you haven't gone far with your homosexuality to actual miss it, have you???
Well... I haven't gone that far... Right now though, I don't know what to do. To try? To not to... hmmmm
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DoNotDisturb

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well, don't go engaging in homosexual activities if you already haven't. the problem that lies here is some people that do end up doing that either end up liking it and stay homosexual, or they become shocked they even engaged in such an act that they decide to change. HOWEVER, you DO NOT need to take that path. Just start looking at women or something, actually become aroused when looking at them, get a gf later and everything should be fine.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: DoNotDisturb
well, don't go engaging in homosexual activities if you already haven't. the problem that lies here is some people that do end up doing that either end up liking it and stay homosexual, or they become shocked they even engaged in such an act that they decide to change. HOWEVER, you DO NOT need to take that path. Just start looking at women or something, actually become aroused when looking at them, get a gf later and everything should be fine.
Although I see your point of view, I have a different point of view. If I'm happy with it, then I may want to 'remain' gay. I don't know what might happen. I've tried looking at women, but I don't become aroused at all :(. I don't know what to do. To be gay? To try to change and be straight? I confuse myself. There have been quite a few girls ask me out on dates, but I have declined all of them because I wasn't at all sexually interested in girls. I like personalities and such, and that's what is really important to me. I think that sexuality takes a backseat to personality.

God. Maybe I should become asexual.
 

DoNotDisturb

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try hanging out with girls and getting close to them in a manner other than learning how to act more like one. conditioning, it always works.
 

GeekDrew

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I am very close to several girls, and talk to them regularly. I don't really try to act like them, or try to act feminine. I'm actually quite the opposite. I do have many feminine qualities, but most people never discover those unless they get to know me beyond what most of my aquaintences do.

The thing is, that just makes me feel like one of the girls' peers instead of being attracted to them. :(

Andrew
 

Yeeny

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You want to work on something? Work on being the best person you can be, and learning to ignore all the assholes in the world who put you down for being something different than they are. They will always be there, even if you did learn to go straight. They will just put something else about you down instead. You are a nice guy, with a good head on your shoulders, and I am pretty sure a good heart too, from what I have read from you. So tell everyone else to kiss your ass (that should REALLY make the homophobes day, its like a double whammy for you to say it to them :D) and just continue being who you are. A really nice sweet gay guy. Too bad you don't live near me, I'd be your nonjudgemental friend in a heartbeat. Hell, we could even look at guys together, woohoo! ;)
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: GirlFriday
You want to work on something? Work on being the best person you can be, and learning to ignore all the assholes in the world who put you down for being something different than they are. They will always be there, even if you did learn to go straight. They will just put something else about you down instead. You are a nice guy, with a good head on your shoulders, and I am pretty sure a good heart too, from what I have read from you. So tell everyone else to kiss your ass (that should REALLY make the homophobes day, its like a double whammy for you to say it to them :D) and just continue being who you are. A really nice sweet gay guy. Too bad you don't live near me, I'd be your nonjudgemental friend in a heartbeat. Hell, we could even look at guys together, woohoo! ;)
Thank you, very much, GirlFriday, that's awesome to hear. We'll chat more often ;)
Send me a message on AIM sometime! Just because we don't live in proximity doesn't mean much any more.

Andrew
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: shrinertech
I am very close to several girls, and talk to them regularly. I don't really try to act like them, or try to act feminine. I'm actually quite the opposite. I do have many feminine qualities, but most people never discover those unless they get to know me beyond what most of my aquaintences do.

The thing is, that just makes me feel like one of the girls' peers instead of being attracted to them. :(

Andrew

Andrew, in most if not all of your posts, I hear about how you're not attracted to women. Are you strongly attracted to men? Are you questioning your sexuality, or just unhappy with it? Given a lack of reprecussions and social consequences, what would you like to see happen? Would you like to be in a relationship with another guy? A girl?

It's ok to be unsure about who you are; that's normal, and will fade with time and life experience.
 

GeekDrew

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[Andrew, in most if not all of your posts, I hear about how you're not attracted to women. Are you strongly attracted to men? Are you questioning your sexuality, or just unhappy with it? Given a lack of reprecussions and social consequences, what would you like to see happen? Would you like to be in a relationship with another guy? A girl? It's ok to be unsure about who you are; that's normal, and will fade with time and life experience.
Yes, I am strongly attracted to men. I'm unhappy with it... I don't think that questioning it would be the proper term at the moment. I would like to see myself become straight. Failing that, I would like to find a location that I can be myself, and be accepted, without harsh criticism. I'm about 75% sure that I would like to be in a relationship with a guy; the other 25% with a girl.

I'm wondering if I'm just now bringing all of this out because I've been feeling extremely lonely recently. Hmmm... something to ponder.

Andrew
 

mithrandir2001

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I don't have the answer though I know that prayer won't help one iota.

I agree that being born gay is a terrible burden. It's like having a disability but you can't get treatment because too many ignorant people think your problem is imagined and that you gave the problem to yourself...a very incorrect prognosis.

The problem is not really how you were born; it's not you. It's society. If society was fair and free from the dehumanizing clutches of bibles, religion, bigotry and hate, homosexuals could live happy lives and you might not even question why you were born the way you were...there would be no need because people would understand.

Society isn't going to change overnight. It may never fully embrace homosexuality as a genuine product of Nature that it is. This may give you feelings of resentment and anger. You might even have destructive feelings of violence; make them pay dearly for the pain you suffer and endure daily. You have a right to happiness just as anyone else.

You have to ask yourself if the joy of having a male companion is greater than facing the dehumanizing social fallout of being labelled gay. Have you considered that you might never have a serious relationship - with a man or a woman - and you could remain single and unattached for much of your life? There is no rule that says everyone has to find a companion. Many people live solo, for a variety of reasons. While this may not be a desirable choice, it is a possibility that needs to be considered. Declaring your homosexuality to the world can bring an unfortunate high price (depending on your environment and situation) and perhaps it's not a levy you wish to pay.

I understand why people say "be yourself". That's the idealistic message and that's truly the way things ought to be. But if you want to sink into the realm of the pragmatic, it might be a smart/safe route to pretend you are straight. I am certain that if my orientation were known to all of my work associates, I would not be treated the same and I likely would be the victim of discrimination, harrassment and jokes, not to mention the possibility of limited career advancement. Yes, such actions by others would be wrong and illegal but this is reality. I am caught in the same quandry: be yourself and hold on tight for heavy turbulence or try to be something you wish you were and live day-to-day. I'm picking the latter and I don't know how long, if ever, will I change over to the former.

When I was getting my hair cut recently, one of the stylists mentioned that a female patron of hers had asked about me. This girl saw me waiting in the lobby, thought I was cute and asked the stylist if she knew who I was. A girl asking about me? This is how I wanted it to be. If a girl unsolicitedly says I'm cute and wants to ask me out, oh boy, it produces a maelstorm of emotions. The stylist said this girl was in grad school, single and looking and wanted to know if I was interested. Well, my dreams of being normal and straight took over my brain and I said I sure. I don't really know what the hell I am doing since I don't think I can get "really interested" in this girl - because of my orientation - but f*** fate for now, maybe I'll make a friend.

But simple experiences like this...I've been denied for so long. I want to love and feel love and really don't know how to pursue.

Anyway, your quandry is not unique. I suffer the same way. I always ask myself "Will I ever be happy? Can I find a cure to this disease?"

One day at a time.
 

Walleye

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the fast track to heterosexuality.

break off ties with gay friends. (temporarily. a few months should do it.)

fill your computer with pics of hot women. no nude guys at all.

turn your hard disc into a screensaver.

watch the screen

beat the meat

rinse and repeat.
 

DanTMWTMP

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i heard being gay is scientifically proven......cuz it happens w/ animals.....kinda genetic...i think..forgot...saw it on discovery channel....
 

Pastore

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Come down to Mansfield University where I am going to college. 18% of our student population is homosexual/bisexual. Funny, they don't mention that in the college brochure.
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Netopia

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I do believe that it is possible for you to turn away from your lifestyle. Overcoming the urges and desires which have been reenforced over time will be MUCH harder... changing the mind is always harder than controlling the flesh.

I don't believe you will succeed though, if you do it because of outside pressure. You either have to desire to change for yourself or you probably won't be willing to weather the difficulties.

Good Luck which ever way you go.

Joe
 

djk

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I feel the problem lies in never previously having a girlfriend. I think because your initial contact with pleasure/emotion simply happened to be with a male, whether it is on video or LIVE.

IMHO, I think it's like owning a Honda Civic and liking it so much only because you haven't experienced the luxury of a BMW. The cycle continues on and on.. Such as.. owning a BMW would be great, but you say that only because you haven't tried a Ferrari. Capiche?

So what I'm basically saying is, give it more time.. Find a quality girl that will treat you well. I know it may take long to do, but the wait will be worth it.

As for your personal dislikings, it is a simple fact of life. The only way we improve ourselves is if we know where we fall short. If you feel you are overweight, then it is something you have to rid of on your own. Excercise!!! By reading your post, you show a very strong quality of openess and honesty - A quality a lot of woman look for. A lot of people in your situation are very much in denial.

But in the end, if you choose stick with mens, then thats you're choice. Just don't fall into the trend of being flamoyant or feminine. And being criticized is just a part of life. If you weren't gay, trust me, they will still have something to say about you.

We are our own worst critics.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Stark
Try here.

You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.

Wow! THere's some disturbed people running that place. What a bunch of as$holes.

??? what on the site is so disturbing?

Are you kidding?

His search led him to The Portland Fellowship, a Christ-centered ministry to those who desire change from sexual brokenness. Through biblical counseling, and loving support, Jason overcame his homosexuality and now serves as Co-Director for The Portland Fellowship

It's extremely disturbing that people would take perfectly fine individuals who happen to be gay and try and change them into something against their nature through religious brainwashing. It's sick.

If people were less judgemental of people that were different from them this sick crap wouldn't exist.

 

Stark

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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Stark
Try here.

You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.

Wow! THere's some disturbed people running that place. What a bunch of as$holes.

??? what on the site is so disturbing?

Are you kidding?

His search led him to The Portland Fellowship, a Christ-centered ministry to those who desire change from sexual brokenness. Through biblical counseling, and loving support, Jason overcame his homosexuality and now serves as Co-Director for The Portland Fellowship

It's extremely disturbing that people would take perfectly fine individuals who happen to be gay and try and change them into something against their nature through religious brainwashing. It's sick.

If people were less judgemental of people that were different from them this sick crap wouldn't exist.

read what you wrote a few times... so much irony in just a few lines.
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flavio

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Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Stark
Try here.

You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.

Wow! THere's some disturbed people running that place. What a bunch of as$holes.

??? what on the site is so disturbing?

Are you kidding?

His search led him to The Portland Fellowship, a Christ-centered ministry to those who desire change from sexual brokenness. Through biblical counseling, and loving support, Jason overcame his homosexuality and now serves as Co-Director for The Portland Fellowship

It's extremely disturbing that people would take perfectly fine individuals who happen to be gay and try and change them into something against their nature through religious brainwashing. It's sick.

If people were less judgemental of people that were different from them this sick crap wouldn't exist.

read what you wrote a few times... so much irony in just a few lines.
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I don't see any irony. They are trying to change people, I am not. You see? I don't think that you understand irony very well.



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SCSIfreek

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actually being gay is a choice. If you can think of this matter in a mature way, when you're gay all you want is to be with is someone you loved(<---none sexual) in antoher words this is what I call companionship. This relationship has no broders, it could be with a male or female. People choose to be gay because they had already found the "Right" match as their companion and it so happened to be a male/male or female/female way. Our society or the norm is male with female but becuase sometimes unlucky people never had the chance to find that special someone in the opposite sex but they did came in contact with the same sex. :(


--Scsi
 

43st

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shrinertech....

Be true to yourself and the rest will take care of itself. If your friends are truely your friends then they wouldn't care.

I worked in theater for several years doing mechanical engineering, so I've been around many gay men and women, mostly technicians. They're just like anyone else. Some are awesome people, some are not, just like straight folks. Some of the hardest working, nicest people I've ever met were gay.

The problem in our culture comes from stereo types and the negative images they force on "slower" people. There will always be people that hate in this world and you're never going to get past that. The trick is not let those people judge or rule your life. You're the one living it, not them. If you have a strong character and stand up for what you believe in you'll be respected. But remember... You'll never stop bigotry. Just be a good person... pretty easy to do.

Don't be ashamed of what you are. You can't change your sexual preferences, simple fact. They've studied mice in an over populated environment and have found that homosexuality occurs on a bell curve corrisponding with over population. Homosexuality is natures cure for over population, it honestly doesn't take a scientist to figure that out. This happens with all mammals, including humans.

I'd imagine you could find some great support forums on the internet not to mention religious groups that would be helpful. I know that the Society of Friends would welcome you, not to mention the Unitarian Church. Find some cool people that you like and hang out with them. You'll quickly see that it's ok to be yourself. If your into tech. then go do some backstage work at a local theater.

You made a very mature decision to mention this in an open forum. That has earned you my respect. Even if this is a meer reflection of your openess, you'll have a fine life ahead of you.

Be thankful that you weren't born with a sexual attraction to lunch meat.... then you'd have problems... :)
 

Spamela

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shrinertech:

you need to see a good shrink about this. he/she could either help you accept your orientation or give you some information on the likelihood of changing it.