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GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: Praetor
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: shrinertech
Originally posted by: ReelC00L Maybe you should go talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist. I think you need to accept yourself and let things be how they will be. Imposing a change on your natural feelings just sounds wrong. If the behavior is self-destructive, then I could understand, but I do not feel sexual preference can be self-destructive.
Changing my natural feelings probably is wrong... but oh well. Sometimes I think it's self-destructive cause I feel suicidal many times after I think about gay sex.
Uh... so stop thinking about gay sex.
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Or have gay sex so you won't have to think about it... you'll be doing it.....
It's kinda hard for me to stop thinking about it. Hard for me to explain, too.
I'd rather not have it... that would make my problems worse, I think.

Andrew
 

Zebo

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I seem to hurt or piss off those that I love
I hate being gay
I can't stand the gay stereotype that is applied to me, or that people don't believe that I'm gay (which is contradictory, I know)
I hate being overweight
I hate having to rely on others for money and aid right now while I'm in college
I hate not being able to have a boyfriend or girlfriend
I hate not being able to associate with others my own age that have my preferences

I'm all hated out at the second... I just drew a blank. Be patient, the other bazillion things will come to me.

Andrew[/quote]

I seem to hurt or piss off those that I love
The Golden rule applies here and works great.
I hate being gay
Nothing to be ashamed of or hate. You are conditioned by a puratanical society that male homosexuality is a sin and taboo. Realise that and also realize it's normal and it's harmless to others a so called "consentual sin". With time and certain geographical locations in this country it's getting better, only the ignorant think otherwise.
I can't stand the gay stereotype that is applied to me
Read above. Ignorance bigotoy and racism is ingraned in our psyche, only thing you can do is ignore it or fight it.
I hate being overweight
Workout aerobic workout. Healty body is required for a healthy mind...I forgot who said that but it's true.
I hate having to rely on others for money and aid right now while I'm in college
Control is something we all loose when young, get over it and work twards having control. goals grades and graduation.
I hate not being able to have a boyfriend or girlfriend
Join clubs, go out with friends, maximize your opportunities. Girls and guys just don't fall into your lap:)

I'm no expert in anything but it seems to me you just need to get out, respect people and believe in yourself. It takes all kinds and no one is superior or inferior to your just differnt.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BillGates
Being gay is a choice....

nope, no it's not

Prove it.

no. being gay is not a choice.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Well Nik.. if it's a choice, I'd like you to prove it by being turned on by a picture of a naked man.

And I'd like to see you prove that it isn't a choice by showing me the gene that makes ya a homo.

It may not be a gene at all. That is irrelevant. Try to be turned on by a picture of a fat woman. Some things you can't control, and it doesn't matter if its genetic or not.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BillGates
Being gay is a choice....

nope, no it's not

Prove it.

no. being gay is not a choice.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes it is.

no it's not.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: shrinertech
Does anyone have any advice, suggestions, or experience in the area? It's a super long story... but I would really like to "turn" straight. Until now, I've said that it can't be done, and that it's not a choice. Prove me wrong. I don't remember ever choosing to be gay... I just turned out that way. You know what though? I'm tired of all of the criticism, being ostracised, being taken out of the crowd, etc. I want to be straight. HELP!

Andrew
Just try to remember what it was like to take a solid crap then you'll know what it's like to be straight.

 

Ornery

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Is it just me, or does anybody else feel like bashing a couple clowns skulls together? :frown:
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: shrinertech
Originally posted by: Praetor
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: shrinertech
Originally posted by: ReelC00L Maybe you should go talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist. I think you need to accept yourself and let things be how they will be. Imposing a change on your natural feelings just sounds wrong. If the behavior is self-destructive, then I could understand, but I do not feel sexual preference can be self-destructive.
Changing my natural feelings probably is wrong... but oh well. Sometimes I think it's self-destructive cause I feel suicidal many times after I think about gay sex.
Uh... so stop thinking about gay sex.
rolleye.gif
Or have gay sex so you won't have to think about it... you'll be doing it.....
It's kinda hard for me to stop thinking about it. Hard for me to explain, too.
I'd rather not <STRONG>have</STRONG> it... that would make my problems worse, I think.

Andrew

Have you seen a therapist or someone like that? If you find someone you can trust and really talk to, they would definately be able to help you out. I think being gay in certain cases is genetic, and in others it is the evironment (or what happens to you). If the latter is the case, perhaps you can get to the root of the issue with a therapist and if the former is true, then they can also help you cope.

Good luck though!
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BillGates
Being gay is a choice....

nope, no it's not

Prove it.

no. being gay is not a choice.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes, it is.
 

no0b

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BillGates
Being gay is a choice....

nope, no it's not

Prove it.

no. being gay is not a choice.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

maybe
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BillGates
Being gay is a choice....

nope, no it's not

Prove it.

no. being gay is not a choice.

Yes it is.

no it's not.

Well Nik.. if it's a choice, I'd like you to prove it by being turned on by a picture of a naked man.

And I'd like to see you prove that it isn't a choice by showing me the gene that makes ya a homo.

It may not be a gene at all. That is irrelevant. Try to be turned on by a picture of a fat woman. Some things you can't control, and it doesn't matter if its genetic or not.

And if I do get turned on by a picture of a man or a fat woman, by choice, what would you say then?
rolleye.gif
Shut yer trap Trollomancer.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BillGates
Being gay is a choice....

nope, no it's not

Prove it.

Prove that being heterosexual is a choice.

Prove that it isn't!!!! BWUAHAHAHAAH!!!

Oh wait.

Anyway, I believe that we're all born hetero. Heterosexuality is natural. Homosexuality is perverse and unnatural.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Shirnertech, you're actually serious??? Jeez... and you're asking for advice on Anandtech.
rolleye.gif
Yes, I am serious. Although I'm asking for advice on AT, I take everything I read into careful consideration before I do anything... meaning that I may chose not to pay attention to some people.

I do respect people that treat me with decency, and (most) of the time I believe in myself. I agree 100% that I need to get out more... I haven't got a car, rely on others for transportation, etc. I haven't got a way to get out much more. I want to try though.

Andrew
 

NikPreviousAcct

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There are lots of things that make me question the "natural" homosexuality. Like why are most gay men feminine? Because men are attracted to feminine people. Why are most gay women masculine? Because women are attracted to masculine people. Why can't two men or two women reproduce? Because it's not natural.
 

Ornery

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AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION BOLSTERS CONDEMNATION OF REPARATIVE THERAPY' TO CHANGE' GAYS
  • The American Psychiatric Association was the first mental health organization to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. In August 1997, the American Psychological Association overwhelmingly passed a resolution at its convention that asserted that there is no sound scientific evidence on the efficacy of "reparative therapy," which seeks to "cure" homosexuals.
The APA Resolution on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation
  • Attempts to use psychological interventions to change sexual orientation are based on the discredited claim that homosexuality is a disease, a notion that represents an attempt to use the language of science to promote antigay prejudice. That view is completely inconsistent with the bulk of scientific research and with the official policies of the American Psychological Association (APA) and the American Psychiatric Association.


    It is highly doubtful that the so-called "conversion therapies" and "reparative therapies" are actually able to change a person's sexual orientation. Claims about their success are based on scattered anecdotal reports, not on rigorous scientific studies that have been subjected to review by other scientists...
Organizations of US Mental Health Professionals Are Unanimous:
  • Perhaps the best rebuttal to claims that gay or lesbian people can "change" their orientation is citation of the many organizations of health care professionals who have officially condemned "conversion" therapies. These include the following:

    American Academy of Pediatrics (1993):
    "Therapy directed specifically at changing sexual orientation is contraindicated, since it can provoke guilt and anxiety while having little or no potential for achieving changes in orientation."

    American Psychiatric Association (1998):
    "The potential risks of 'reparative therapy' are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior. . . . [T]he American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as 'reparative' or 'conversion' therapy, which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation." In response to Dr. Spitzer's new research (described below), the APA issued a statement affirming its position and cautioning that "there is no published evidence supporting the efficacy of reparative therapy as a treatment to change one's sexual orientation." The APA removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1973.

    American Psychological Association (1997):
    "No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any of the conversion therapies that try to change sexual orientation." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1975.

    National Association of Social Workers (2000):
    "No data demonstrate that reparative and conversion therapies are effective, and in fact they may be harmful. . . . uch treatment potentially can lead to severe emotional damage." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1977.

    Cohler & Galatzer-Levy Report (commissioned by the American Psychoanalytic Association) (2000):
    "The mental health community must confront the ethics of directed efforts at changing sexual orientation. Generally these efforts are not successful. . . . uch purportedly therapeutic efforts do not work and may cause harm." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1991.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: shrinertech
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Shirnertech, you're actually serious??? Jeez... and you're asking for advice on Anandtech.
rolleye.gif
Yes, I am serious. Although I'm asking for advice on AT, I take everything I read into careful consideration before I do anything... meaning that I may chose not to pay attention to some people.

I <EM>do</EM> respect people that treat me with decency, and (most) of the time I believe in myself. I agree 100% that I need to get out more... I haven't got a car, rely on others for transportation, etc. I haven't got a way to get out much more. I want to try though.

Andrew

Well, taking that into consideration, my fun and games in this thread is over. You have my most profound appologies for my joking around. :( I took this thread as a parody of the other homosexuality thread and posted light-heartedly, not thinking anyone's real feelings were involved to get hurt. I'm so sorry if I offended you. If you're really this upset about your sexuality, the things I've said must be fairly painful to read; that wasn't my intension at all. Good luck on finding an answer.
 

911paramedic

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Uh, well if you are happy as gay, that is what you should be. I am REALLY happy with women :D, and plan to stay that way.

I am pretty open-minded in that I believe a persons sexual orientation is their own to deal with, and others opinions should not change that. Just think, I am a man that likes women, if the popular choice was that men should be gay, I would be miserable. I would only think of women all the time. You are in the same position, but reversed. You think of men (you have a male icon...) so that is what you should be true to.

I learned many things about gays when I worked in San Francisco, and it was fine by me. I am a firm believer of "living life as you want to" if that makes sense to you. Personally, I love fun, able to camp, natural looking women. That makes me very happy. I think if there is a "profile" that makes you happy, who are we to judge?

Be yourself is the only true advice I can really give, the rest is up to you.
 

GeekDrew

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Have you seen a therapist or someone like that? If you find someone you can trust and really talk to, they would definately be able to help you out. I think being gay in certain cases is genetic, and in others it is the evironment (or what happens to you). If the latter is the case, perhaps you can get to the root of the issue with a therapist and if the former is true, then they can also help you cope.
I'd like to go... but haven't got the money to. I'll come up with it eventually though.

Well, taking that into consideration, my fun and games in this thread is over. You have my most profound appologies for my joking around. I took this thread as a parody of the other homosexuality thread and posted light-heartedly, not thinking anyone's real feelings were involved to get hurt. I'm so sorry if I offended you. If you're really this upset about your sexuality, the things I've said must be fairly painful to read; that wasn't my intension at all. Good luck on finding an answer.
Nik, you didn't offend me... I'm used to it, and I kind-of expected that you were being light-hearted. Don't worry about it. Thanks!

Andrew