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You have to take into account how black persons who have done the right things in life feel about being pulled over.

Contact with the police is very stressful for anyone. Now imagine that you are aware of the history of police treatment of african-americans.

It is wrong that someone can do all of the right things in life, against all the odds, and still be treated like so by the police.


What in the world.. You think white/yellow/orange kids don't get hassled, falsely arrested, beaten for no reason?

Kids of all races get hassled. It is stressful for all races.



Again, "you" are not special.
 

Geosurface

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Not a whole lot of middle aged black guys in suits or cosby sweaters are getting stopped and frisked or pulled over. Does it happen? Are there some legitimately racist cops out there who will stop people like that just to be assholes? Yes, but that sort of behavior is at an all time low. That's mostly a thing of the past.

Typically if someone is getting stopped, there's a reason. A reason beyond just their skin color. How they choose to dress, what they choose to drive... listen to... etc there is a lot of shit that goes into looking suspicious to a cop, and if we expect cops to ignore all of it, crime will get even worse.
 

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Not a whole lot of middle aged black guys in suits or cosby sweaters are getting stopped and frisked or pulled over. Does it happen? Are there some legitimately racist cops out there who will stop people like that just to be assholes? Yes, but that sort of behavior is at an all time low. That's mostly a thing of the past.

Typically if someone is getting stopped, there's a reason. A reason beyond just their skin color. How they choose to dress, what they choose to drive... listen to... etc there is a lot of shit that goes into looking suspicious to a cop, and if we expect cops to ignore all of it, crime will get even worse.

Yes because all white people don't do those things. Its like you are racist against yourself. Good job. There are plenty of shady white people.
 

2timer

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In the context you used [white man] yes.

Quote of the day! According to London Jowo, conservative douchebag, the term "white man" is racist.

That's really good, I'll have to remember that for future debate. According to him, plain, everyday words are racist. Which makes it very convenient for his purposes, I suppose.
 

2timer

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"court opinion", "opinion of the jury", "majority opinion", all matters based around the opinion of one or more individuals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_opinion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_jury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_opinion

"diagnostic opinion"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_diagnosis#Diagnostic_opinion

As in "get a second opinion" on an illness.

Alright, I admit that it's possible to characterize a diagnosis as an "opinion," if you accept Wikipedia as the authoritative source, and if you qualify that by saying for "certain types" of diagnoses it must be said they are more fact than opinion, eg a laboratory diagnosis of a virus or a radiology diagnosis of a broken bone are fact. So while I was wrong generally, there are certain exceptions.

What does it feel like to be so wrong? It must be awful.

It's instructive. Not so awful, because I am more inclined to following truth than dogma, I am not so afraid to be wrong.

You also clearly don't know the difference between left wing and right. You have a lot of learning to do, child.You little coward. Is this how you acknowledge you're wrong, but just want to change the topic instead of plainly admitting it?

That's just petty and sad.

There is only ambiguity about the meaning of diagnosis because you have no idea what you're talking about. That's all; there is no ambiguity about it whatsoever. It is an opinion borne from professional expertise and procedure.

Uhm no. This is not true, unfortunately. There is ambiguity as to whether the general term "diagnosis" refers to a fact or opinion, based upon the usage of the term. See what I wrote above.
 
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Londo_Jowo

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Quote of the day! According to London Jowo, conservative douchebag, the term "white man" is racist.

That's really good, I'll have to remember that for future debate. According to him, plain, everyday words are racist. Which makes it very convenient for his purposes, I suppose.

LMAO!!!! We now see how to make fool out of themselves.
 

desura

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Not a whole lot of middle aged black guys in suits or cosby sweaters are getting stopped and frisked or pulled over. Does it happen? Are there some legitimately racist cops out there who will stop people like that just to be assholes? Yes, but that sort of behavior is at an all time low. That's mostly a thing of the past.

Typically if someone is getting stopped, there's a reason. A reason beyond just their skin color. How they choose to dress, what they choose to drive... listen to... etc there is a lot of shit that goes into looking suspicious to a cop, and if we expect cops to ignore all of it, crime will get even worse.

Having the color of skin be the determining factor is illegal and wrong.

All things being equal, a white guy and a black guy, of the same socioeconomic class, wearing the same clothes, same educational background, the black guy will be stopped more often.
 

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LMAO!!!! We now see how to make fool out of themselves.

It was rather humorous, wasn't it? "White man" is a racist term, says you.

Lol. Ah, it's great that the quote button exists, it captures stupid people saying stupid things.
 

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It was rather humorous, wasn't it? "White man" is a racist term, says you.

Lol. Ah, it's great that the quote button exists, it captures stupid people saying stupid things.

Let me guess, you also feel it's all good to call people Black Man/Boy/Woman/Girl, Yellow Man/Boy/Woman/Girl, or White Man/Boy/Woman/Girl when posting in the forum and it wouldn't be considered being racist?
 

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Let me guess, you also feel it's all good to call people Black Man/Boy/Woman/Girl, Yellow Man/Boy/Woman/Girl, or White Man/Boy/Woman/Girl when posting in the forum and it wouldn't be considered being racist?

If a white man calls an adult black male a black "boy," or vice versa, then I can understand how that would be racist. But your original post did not say "man/boy," it just said "man."
 

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I said "White Man".

I am still chuckling over someone claiming I'm racist because I said that. If If it was the other way around, I'd be called names and told I was being too sensitive.

That's the nature of P&N
 

Geosurface

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I said "White Man".

I am still chuckling over someone claiming I'm racist because I said that. If If it was the other way around, I'd be called names and told I was being too sensitive.

That's the nature of P&N

Oh I don't know about that...

as it stands now, Londo says it was racist of you to say "there's no conspiracy against you, white man" or whatever the exact quote was... and anyone who's bothering to respond is mocking him for saying it.

If like, SpatiallyAware had said to you "Not everything you see is racism, black woman" I think it would have made everyone at least uneasy, and several would have outright called it racist.
 

*kjm

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I think as much progress as we made on the race war over the last 100 years will be wiped out on internet forums from people talking out their butts….. Just a thought.
 

SheHateMe

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Oh I don't know about that...

as it stands now, Londo says it was racist of you to say "there's no conspiracy against you, white man" or whatever the exact quote was... and anyone who's bothering to respond is mocking him for saying it.

If like, SpatiallyAware had said to you "Not everything you see is racism, black woman" I think it would have made everyone at least uneasy, and several would have outright called it racist.

If I was going on and on about being shorted on my food orders by whites because I was black...I probably wouldn't have said anything about it.

Overvolt's stories always tried to make it seem like black patrons were given more food than him because he was a white man.

I didn't think anyone would really care about the remark, there was no real meaning behind it. :p
 

Geosurface

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I didn't think anyone would really care about the remark, there was no real meaning behind it. :p

I know, and I didn't care about it myself.

But you have to admit someone calling you "black woman" would raise eyebrows.
 

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I'm a black woman, aren't I?

This is a lot different from the "Your kind", "Your tribe", "Your people", "Your group", "in a culture with" comments I get from some of the people I have squabbles with on the forums.


being called a "black woman". Cool. Tell me something I don't know.
 

Lithium381

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lol, calling someone a 'white man' must be a code word for racists now! How did we get off topic wondering if certain members here are racist or not (most of the time projecting our own insecurities about our beliefs) why don't we discuss the topic at hand? Chicago, which happens to have a lot of black urban youths is causing a disturbance. What is being done about it as it's clearly a problem.

The last time i remember seeing white people riot is after their team loses a big hockey match. .
 

Geosurface

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I'm a black woman, aren't I?

This is a lot different from the "Your kind", "Your tribe", "Your people", "Your group", "in a culture with" comments I get from some of the people I have squabbles with on the forums.


being called a "black woman". Cool. Tell me something I don't know.

I'm not talking about someone referring to you as "a" black woman, I'm talking about someone directly addressing you as "black woman" especially in the context of disagreeing with you.

I think that's a meaningful distinction. But I'm okay with dropping this.