Poor Chicagoans...Flash Mobs and Unable to Properly Defend Themselves

[SheHateMe]

I'm glad you thought that.

I asked you a valid question about one of your (semi) recent threads and you chose to ignore it.

Interesting.

So, are you just going to pretend like you didn't make that thread, or...?


You said Genetics make blacks more likely to commit crimes...but in this thread you are saying that Genetics or chemical imbalances don't have much of an effect on people who can "resist" it.

Which is it?


Race, genetics, and crime

 

[sourn]

Lol. Don't take yourself so seriously. "I just can't *imagine* how someone conjures the necessary rage..." blah blah blah blah.

"Extremely dangerous"? Since when does handing out a beatdown become extremely dangerous? I guess when a black person does it to a white person, that's when.

I'm not condoning their actions at all, but you sound like a typical implicit racist.

Getting a beatdown happens regularly in ghetto black areas. It's nothing as shocking as frightened white people like yourself make it out to be. It happens and then people *move on*. Rather than bully people into suicide and shooting up children at schools, black people beat each other up.

Both races are fucked up, cruel, and nasty at times.

It gets extremely dangerous when you beat on their heads you fucking genius. DERP DERP

Come here let me beat on your fucking head. See if you think it's dangerous or not.

 

[Geosurface]

I asked you a valid question about one of your (semi) recent threads and you chose to ignore it.

Not sure if you're playing dumb... or...

but yea, feel free to drop it, because you're right, I'm not answering your question.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Maybe an instructive way to proceed would be for you to look at how many black on white crimes there are per year, and then compare that to how many black on white crimes are considered hate crimes, with the earlier linked stats... and see if the % makes sense to you.

In Canada, I'll bet statically, Black folk are the angels of society
And all of them (around 800,000 by the looks of it) must of been crazy to chose to move somewhere even more white then the US if your right

but if you don't think there is real race-based hatred of whites by a lot of blacks?

I can believe real mistrust of whites still exists
Its pretty obvious some things will never change completely

 

[OverVolt]

Yeah, that's a wonderful example to back up your statement about black on white hate crimes. Bravo.

Seriously, why even post that?

Meh, why don't you go hang out in an area like that and get better examples. I was also robbed at gunpoint 10 streets over from that place, for them it was a gang initiation.

Its such a known thing around here. You go to the city chipotle and you get a small amount of food, all the black guys ask for extra everything and aren't charged for it. Probably like 1,500cals of food for the basic price. I actually wonder how they don't go out of business.

Its what happens around here get over it.

So it happens and I'm not supposed to ever talk about it huh? Such a minor thing but I sure as hell avoid eating in that area.

 

[SheHateMe]

Not sure if you're playing dumb... or...

but yea, feel free to drop it, because you're right, I'm not answering your question.

So you stepped away from your original position that Genetics and Black Crime were related. Not sure if you're playing dumb...or...

Meh, why don't you go hang out in an area like that and get better examples. I was also robbed at gunpoint 10 streets over from that place, for them it was a gang initiation.

Its such a known thing around here. You go to the city chipotle and you get a small amount of food, all the black guys ask for extra everything and aren't charged for it. Probably like 1,500cals of food for the basic price. I actually wonder how they don't go out of business.

Its what happens around here get over it.

So it happens and I'm not supposed to ever talk about it huh? Such a minor thing but I sure as hell avoid eating in that area.

I've received shitty services from fellow blacks before too. I've been treated like shit by blacks too. Ive had family members get mugged/robbed by blacks too

There isn't a grand conspiracy again you, white man.

People just have shitty attitudes. That's it.

 

[Geosurface]

Meh, why don't you go hang out in an area like that and get better examples. I was also robbed at gunpoint 10 streets over from that place, for them it was a gang initiation.

Its such a known thing around here. You go to the city chipotle and you get a small amount of food, all the black guys ask for extra everything and aren't charged for it. Probably like 1,500cals of food for the basic price. I actually wonder how they don't go out of business.

Its what happens around here get over it.

So it happens and I'm not supposed to ever talk about it huh? Such a minor thing but I sure as hell avoid eating in that area.

and if white people at a restaurant showed favoritism to white patrons, heads would explode across the nation.

I personally believe it's natural to prefer people more similar to yourself, and feel a stronger bond with them. Everyone on the planet knew that was natural until very recently, most still do. It's really primarily white people who are trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

[2timer]

Meh, why don't you go hang out in an area like that and get better examples. I was also robbed at gunpoint 10 streets over from that place, for them it was a gang initiation.

Its such a known thing around here. You go to the city chipotle and you get a small amount of food, all the black guys ask for extra everything and aren't charged for it. Probably like 1,500cals of food for the basic price. I actually wonder how they don't go out of business.

Its what happens around here get over it.

So it happens and I'm not supposed to ever talk about it huh? Such a minor thing but I sure as hell avoid eating in that area.

So what's your point?

It's their business, they can ask for extra toppings if they f***ing want to. It doesn't harm you at all, why are you so hung up on such a little thing? If it's annoying to you, fine, just don't go there. Nobody forces you to eat at Chipotles. Geez.

 

[2timer]

So you stepped away from your original position that Genetics and Black Crime were related. Not sure if you're playing dumb...or...



I've received shitty services from fellow blacks before too. I've been treated like shit by blacks too. Ive had family members get mugged/robbed by blacks too

There isn't a grand conspiracy again you, white man.

People just have shitty attitudes. That's it.

This.

 

[nehalem256]

So you stepped away from your original position that Genetics and Black Crime were related. Not sure if you're playing dumb...or...

Someone clearly doesn't understand sarcasm.

 

[Geosurface]

I've received shitty services from fellow blacks before too. I've been treated like shit by blacks too. Ive had family members get mugged/robbed by blacks too.

Ever have any family members get mugged/robbed by whites?

I'm sure you've at least had some shitty service and been treated like shit by whites, right? Willing to share any stories?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Meh, why don't you go hang out in an area like that and get better examples. I was also robbed at gunpoint 10 streets over from that place, for them it was a gang initiation.

Its such a known thing around here. You go to the city chipotle and you get a small amount of food, all the black guys ask for extra everything and aren't charged for it. Probably like 1,500cals of food for the basic price. I actually wonder how they don't go out of business.

Its what happens around here get over it.

So it happens and I'm not supposed to ever talk about it huh? Such a minor thing but I sure as hell avoid eating in that area.

1,500 cals...
I don't even know what to type anymore....
Goodnight all..it was interesting

 

[OverVolt]

So what's your point?

It's their business, they can ask for extra toppings if they f***ing want to. It doesn't harm you at all, why are you so hung up on such a little thing? If it's annoying to you, fine, just don't go there. Nobody forces you to eat at Chipotles. Geez.

Its everywhere in the city. Its definitely a black culture thing to ask for extra everything and expect no charge.

The places that don't honor it are hilariously empty. Which also means the food isn't fresh, so those places are out too.

 

[2timer]

Its everywhere in the city. Its definitely a black culture thing to ask for extra everything and expect no charge.

The places that don't honor it are hilariously empty. Which also means the food isn't fresh, so those places are out too.

Lol. That just made me laugh, sorry. You are a funny guy. Talking about hate crimes and racism, and you are upset because, according to *you*, one culture asks for a few extra pickles on their Big Mac??

Odd, extremely odd.

 

[SheHateMe]

Ever have any family members get mugged/robbed by whites?

I'm sure you've at least had some shitty service and been treated like shit by whites, right? Willing to share any stories?

No. Edit: Or if its happened, I did not hear about it. I only keep close contact with my mother, sister, father, and grandparents. Anything beyond that is a mystery.

Yes, actually. I went into a Piano store to look at a Digital Piano that I had the money to buy. I'd saved all my Tuition refunds to get the damn thing. I walk into the store with my sister and we started looking around. There was an older white man working the showroom floor. He was sitting down when we came in and he just watched us the whole time we were in the store.

I stopped at one of the digital pianos and started checking the spec sheet when his stupid ass finally asked me if I needed something. I asked if I could play the model I was looking at and suddenly he is interested in getting up from his damn desk to help us.

I guess he thought I was just in there to mess around, but after I started playing a few pieces on the model I was looking at...suddenly he was interested in having me as a customer. His demeanor changed.

I left the store. Fuck that guy.

This wasn't some cheap keyboard from Best Buy. This was a Piano Showroom in Virginia and the digital was $3500. He didn't want to give us the time of day. He didn't greet us when we came into the store, he didn't get up. He didn't ask if he could help us today. Nada.

It was only until I started to test out the merchandise did he suddenly want to speak to me about Pianos.

 

[OverVolt]

Lol. That just made me laugh, sorry. You are a funny guy. Talking about hate crimes and racism, and you are upset because, according to *you*, one culture asks for a few extra pickles on their Big Mac??

Odd, extremely odd.

Free guac for others! Half fries!

:awe:

It bothers me enough that I don't eat there. Its difficult to describe the general way you are treated, buts there is animosity at some places. And its not because of me, considering I live around there I could move if I was actually scared of the neighborhoods and I'm comfortable in those areas. You get the feeling they don't want you there. So I don't go there.

Legit if I were somewhere 99% black and some kind of crime happened and the cops arrived they'd probably not really help me as a white guy. They'd be like, you are in the wrong neighborhood, kinda your fault.

There is a boundary for sure. If you are around a place that employs alot of people, the immediate area around it is fine. If you are in a 99% black residential area you are basically on your own.

 

[2timer]

Free guac for others! Half fries!

:awe:

It bothers me enough that I don't eat there. Its difficult to describe the general way you are treated, buts there is animosity at some places. And its not because of me, considering I live around there I could move if I was actually scared of the neighborhoods and I'm comfortable in those areas. You get the feeling they don't want you there. So I don't go there.

Maybe you get that feeling because they get the feeling you are judging them silently and with contempt based on the color of their skin.

Which, when reading your previous posts, it seems like you are.

Just a thought. :whiste:

 

[OverVolt]

Maybe you get that feeling because they get the feeling you are judging them silently and with contempt based on the color of their skin.

Which, when reading your previous posts, it seems like you are.

Just a thought. :whiste:

I guarantee I'm more comfortable in low class city neighborhoods than you are. Cause I live right next to one.

 

[Geosurface]

Yes, actually. I went into a Piano store to look at a Digital Piano that I had the money to buy. I'd saved all my Tuition refunds to get the damn thing. I walk into the store with my sister and we started looking around. There was an older white man working the showroom floor. He was sitting down when we came in and he just watched us the whole time we were in the store.

I stopped at one of the digital pianos and started checking the spec sheet when his stupid ass finally asked me if I needed something. I asked if I could play the model I was looking at and suddenly he is interested in getting up from his damn desk to help us.

I guess he thought I was just in there to mess around, but after I started playing a few pieces on the model I was looking at...suddenly he was interested in having me as a customer. His demeanor changed.

I left the store. Fuck that guy.

This wasn't some cheap keyboard from Best Buy. This was a Piano Showroom in Virginia and the digital was $3500. He didn't want to give us the time of day. He didn't greet us when we came into the store, he didn't get up. He didn't ask if he could help us today. Nada.

It was only until I started to test out the merchandise did he suddenly want to speak to me about Pianos.

Lame. Was he fat? Maybe that's why he didn't like standing up if he didn't have to.

I agree with you that it's likely he figured two young black women weren't in the market for an expensive piano, I think that's a distinct possibility. Based on the way you type here, I would be surprised if you sounded ghetto or stupid in any way, and I suspect you probably speak quite intelligently and properly. Which makes his reaction more puzzling. If two other black women came in, acting in exactly the way I'm sure you have no problem envisioning... it would be more understandable.

So yea, I agree it might be a case of mild racism.

Then again? I'm as white as printer paper, and throughout my life I have endured the entire range of customer service experiences. I've been treated in the way you just described, encountered plenty of lazy, dipshit customer service reps who seemed completely uninterested in doing their jobs...

I've even had an eye kept on me, but I'll admit that was when I was a teenager or early 20's. Not so much now that I'm in my 30's.

So yea, dealt with plenty of rudeness or incompetence or laziness from my fellow whites (and others.)

So I don't know if you can conclusively stamp "racism" on what that guy did, but I would agree with you that it was likely part of what was going on. I think the odds are good it was.

And whatever you may think of my views, I don't believe in being rude to anyone. I'm one of the more pleasant people you could care to interact with face to face. If anything, I go out of my way to be extra nice to black people. Vestigial behavior from my former life as a liberal, perhaps.

 

[SheHateMe]

No, he wasn't fat. He was a white guy in his 60s probably.

And I could tell he was being prejudice just by how much his demeanor changed when he found out I could play. He literally floated away from his desk over to the piano when I played the first two measures.

We talked about classical composers and some of the pieces I played when I was testing the model for about 30 minutes. How excited his little pink face was when he found out I wasn't in there to I don't know...steal a fucking sticker off one of the displays.

Its not like I could have walked in there and stolen something. Everything in the store was a Piano. So, he was just being a jerk.



This is kind of one of the reasons why I only buy things online now. I hate sales people, I hate people who follow me around the store, I hate people who try to talk to me like I don't have any money for the shit I want to look at.

 

[Geosurface]

You're college age though, right? and this was how long ago? How old were you and your sister?

I'm just being devil's advocate here, and I certainly don't dismiss the idea that he was being prejudiced. Just work with me on a thought experiment here though.

Is it possible this store which sells really expensive pianos just isn't used to young people coming in with the money to get one, regardless of their race? I've seen stores before that sort of just get sick of kids who have no intention of a purchase coming in to wander around looking just for the hell of it...

I would think if he was that prejudiced, he wouldn't have seemingly lit up so much when he found out you could play and might make a purchase, if he was that racist he probably would've remained skeptical that you had the money to buy it... and just continued to be a prick and gone through the motions of talking to you, but not had his heart in it at all. Sounds like he got into talking to you, etc.

So again, is it possible he just didn't think someone of your age was a serious potential buyer? Maybe most people who come in there and buy something of that price are middle aged or older.

EDIT: To clarify, is it possible he wasn't worried you were going to steal something... but rather, just assumed you were wasting his time and not a serious buyer, but rather just some young person dicking around?

 

[OverVolt]

His age? haha, well somewhat. Its the whole package though as always. It was probably a little on the prejudice side.

 

[SheHateMe]

You're college age though, right? and this was how long ago? How old were you and your sister?

I'm just being devil's advocate here, and I certainly don't dismiss the idea that he was being prejudiced. Just work with me on a thought experiment here though.

Is it possible this store which sells really expensive pianos just isn't used to young people coming in with the money to get one, regardless of their race? I've seen stores before that sort of just get sick of kids who have no intention of a purchase coming in to wander around looking just for the hell of it...

I would think if he was that prejudiced, he wouldn't have seemingly lit up so much when he found out you could play and might make a purchase, if he was that racist he probably would've remained skeptical that you had the money to buy it... and just continued to be a prick and gone through the motions of talking to you, but not had his heart in it at all. Sounds like he got into talking to you, etc.

So again, is it possible he just didn't think someone of your age was a serious potential buyer? Maybe most people who come in there and buy something of that price are middle aged or older.

22 and 19. We don't look like kids.

This took place in Sterling,VA a year ago.

And I understand not thinking somebody was going to buy something, but his cold attitude and way he just sat there and watched us told me something different.

Either way, if you're going to work a sales floor, you are supposed to try and help a customer as much as you can. I did not receive that treatment until I "forced" him into a situation where he HAD to treat me like a customer.

And we were pretty much the only people in the store. There was a piano class going on in one of the rooms in the back of the store because I heard the music as the little kids ran in and out of the room to get to the water fountain.

Literally just us three in the front.



Anyway, I bought the same Piano from a different showroom. Had to drive all the way to Maryland for it. As soon as I walked in the door, I was greeted by the nicest white guy ever. He helped me make the right decision and even played a few songs for me. Oh yea, and I got free delivery too. I paid $200 less than retail for it. It was delivered to my house in Woodbridge within a week.

 

[Geosurface]

22 and 19. We don't look like kids.

This took place in Sterling,VA a year ago.

And I understand not thinking somebody was going to buy something, but his cold attitude and way he just sat there and watched us told me something different.

Either way, if you're going to work a sales floor, you are supposed to try and help a customer as much as you can. I did not receive that treatment until I "forced" him into a situation where he HAD to treat me like a customer.

And we were pretty much the only people in the store. There was a piano class going on in one of the rooms in the back of the store because I heard the music as the little kids ran in and out of the room to get to the water fountain.

Literally just us three in the front.



Anyway, I bought the same Piano from a different showroom. Had to drive all the way to Maryland for it. As soon as I walked in the door, I was greeted by the nicest white guy ever. He helped me make the right decision and even played a few songs for me. Oh yea, and I got free delivery too. I paid $200 less than retail for it. It was delivered to my house in Woodbridge within a week.

Right on, well it all had a happy ending and I'm glad you got the piano. I have no musical ability myself, at all. My brother got all of that, he can play almost any instrument. Saxophone is his specialty. Btw he is one of those white guys who has a bit of a fetish for black culture, he's a few years older than I am and he has always loved jazz... big fan of Coltrane and all that. He's been beating the gun control drum lately too. We've become very different people since I've gone through my ideological transition. He isn't really aware of the full scope of it yet. He's still fully locked onto Obama's nuts like I was a couple of years ago.

Anyway, I still think it's possible the guy was just a bad salesman and/or lazy and/or skeptical of young people having the money to buy one of those pianos. Wouldn't be surprised if he usually sees someone your age with a parent who is going to be the one busting out the credit card.

It's also possible he was a prejudouche. Who knows.

 

[Doppel]

So criminal convictions and physicians diagnoses are just opinions?

You are are the biggest right wing nut on AnandTech, hands down.

"court opinion", "opinion of the jury", "majority opinion", all matters based around the opinion of one or more individuals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_opinion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_jury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_opinion

"diagnostic opinion"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_diagnosis#Diagnostic_opinion

As in "get a second opinion" on an illness.

What does it feel like to be so wrong? It must be awful.

You also clearly don't know the difference between left wing and right. You have a lot of learning to do, child.

Otherwise, we just have to agree it's a moot point, there's too much ambiguity about the meaning of diagnosis to make a definitive conclusion.

And it's really not worth the effort and would only derail the thread anyways. So just forget it.

You little coward. Is this how you acknowledge you're wrong, but just want to change the topic instead of plainly admitting it? There is only ambiguity about the meaning of diagnosis because you have no idea what you're talking about. That's all; there is no ambiguity about it whatsoever. It is an opinion borne from professional expertise and procedure.