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ALFA ROMEO IS NOT WIERD CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its a GMOriginally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: SpongeBob
Citroen
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What's that?
ford/lincoln/mercury/mazda/jaguar/aston martin/land rover/volvo/think is the full thing.
you don't have fiat on there, of course. they might be under GM. not sure how autonomous they are.
mercedes certainly should not be with land rover, since merc is chrysler and land rover is ford
you don't have renault, peugeot, subaru (WRX!!!), izusu (i think GM has a sizeable share of them), vauxhall (ford), saab (gm), opel (gm), and a bunch of other companies i'm leaving off (skoda comes to mind).
I don't know about that, Volvo is Swedish and Land Rover is Toyota.
Actually Volvo and Land Rover are owned by Ford.Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its a GMOriginally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: SpongeBob
Citroen
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What's that?
ford/lincoln/mercury/mazda/jaguar/aston martin/land rover/volvo/think is the full thing.
you don't have fiat on there, of course. they might be under GM. not sure how autonomous they are.
mercedes certainly should not be with land rover, since merc is chrysler and land rover is ford
you don't have renault, peugeot, subaru (WRX!!!), izusu (i think GM has a sizeable share of them), vauxhall (ford), saab (gm), opel (gm), and a bunch of other companies i'm leaving off (skoda comes to mind).
I don't know about that, Volvo is Swedish and Land Rover is Toyota.
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Ford 🙂) ) / Lincoln 🙂disgust: ) / Mercury 🙂frown: )
It's all the same company, but all the good ideas get the Ford name. I'm a Chevy guy myself, so I'll steer clear of that one. Actually my favorite or the old school MOPAR's, like late 60's early 70's Cudas, Roadrunners, and challengers. I drive Toyotas though, and they are the most practical for me, so that's what I voted for.
This information I already know. 🙂 I used to call myself a Chevy boy too until the day I realized that the only real Chevy that I like is the '68 Camero SuperSport 😀
nik
Originally posted by: Haircut
Actually Volvo and Land Rover are owned by Ford.Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its a GMOriginally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: SpongeBob
Citroen
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What's that?
ford/lincoln/mercury/mazda/jaguar/aston martin/land rover/volvo/think is the full thing.
you don't have fiat on there, of course. they might be under GM. not sure how autonomous they are.
mercedes certainly should not be with land rover, since merc is chrysler and land rover is ford
you don't have renault, peugeot, subaru (WRX!!!), izusu (i think GM has a sizeable share of them), vauxhall (ford), saab (gm), opel (gm), and a bunch of other companies i'm leaving off (skoda comes to mind).
I don't know about that, Volvo is Swedish and Land Rover is Toyota.
Also just to correct El Fenix, Vauxhall is owned by GM and the cars are pretty much the same as Opel. The name Vauxhall is just for the UK and Opel is for everywhere else.
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Let me know if I missed anything important, or if I need to merge any categories. Perhaps this will settle the debate once and for all! 😀
Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
FYI: GM owns SAAB as well (or at least most of it, to my understanding)... and SAAB isn't wierd crap either!!!
Originally posted by: BL0RT
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Let me know if I missed anything important, or if I need to merge any categories. Perhaps this will settle the debate once and for all! 😀
GM / Chevy / Pontiac / GMC / Saturn
should also have Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Hummer, and Saab. Volvo should be under Ford, and don't you think that Jeep should be with Chrysler. porche with audi and volkswagen is weird too.
Originally posted by: RossMAN
I'm a certified Toyota/Lexus ho, starting to become a Honda/Acura slut and will one day be a bonified VW/Audi & Nissan/Infiniti lovin' fool.
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Wow, I'm learning a lot here. Good information, guys. Are Volvo's still made in Sweden, or are they made under Ford supervision now, or does Ford just own a portion? Same with GM and Saab? I'm curious. On another note, I know that Porche used VW engines in some of their cars, right? And Jeep and Eagle are the same, and I'm pretty sure Eagle/Mitsubishi are the same...
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Wow, I'm learning a lot here. Good information, guys. Are Volvo's still made in Sweden, or are they made under Ford supervision now, or does Ford just own a portion? Same with GM and Saab? I'm curious. On another note, I know that Porche used VW engines in some of their cars, right? And Jeep and Eagle are the same, and I'm pretty sure Eagle/Mitsubishi are the same...
porsche hasn't used a VW engine in years. eagle is a dead chrysler brand originally founded to sell renaults in the US. later renault was kicked out of the US market (for like the 3rd time) and so chrysler used it as just another corporate division. chrysler had a long time relationship with mitsu, and sold versions of the eclipse and 3000gt, as well as using mitsu engines. the sebring 2 door is still largely a mitsu project. and volvo cars is owned wholly by ford, still built in sweden and using completely different everything from every other ford. ford might be looking to sell it.
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
That poll is messed up! Why are VW, Audi and Porsche grouped together? Porsche has NOTHING to do with VW or Audi! OTOH, VW does own Lamborghini (well, Audi does, and VW owns Audi).
If you wanted to group the manufacturers according to who owns who, it would go something like this (the parent-company in the left):
VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda/Lamborghini/Bugatti
Renault/Nissan/Infiniti
Peugeot/Citroen
GM/Saab/Opel/Chevy/Pontiac/Etc.
Ford/Volvo/Jaguar/Aston Martin/Land Rover/etc.
Fiat/Ferrari/Maserati/Alfa Romeo/Lancia
Mercedes/Chrysler/etc.