Poll: Would you accept gay marriages?

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luv2chill

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Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Stark


So let's see what life is like in Conjur's world:

1. Don't believe in God
2. Make up your own moral structure (god) as you see fit. Worship it.
3. Don't pay attention to anyone else's moral structure (gods). Curse them.
4. Mandatory workdays on Sundays. No more religious holidays. Employers can now work people 7 days, 56 hours a week.
5. You can sleep with your father and mother (or both at the same time). Sisters and brothers too. And don't forget the cat and dog.
6. There is no such thing as Murder. If your god (moral structure) want's to kill someone, you should obey.
7. Sleep with whoever you want, whenever you want. Avoid monogamy. Screw, screw, screw!!
8. Take what you want. You deserve it. Don't pay for anything.
9. Truth is overrated. Lie whenever it suits you.
10. Lust is good. Worry about what you don't have and rely on rule 8 to get it.

Boy, what a model for society!

1) Correct
2) No...I was raised Catholic but realize now all of the man-made rules in organized religion are a bunch of bunk.
3) Pulling things from your arse, eh? Putting words into my mouth, eh?
4) Where the hell did that come from? Nice way to jump to a completely illogical assumption based on nothing.
5) Find where I said incest is ok? Can't find it, eh? STFU.
6) Homosexual marriages affect NO ONE and harm NO ONE as it's between consenting adults. Murder...hmm...yes...HARMS someone! STFU.
7) Hey...if I'm not married...have at it!
8) Hmm...disrespecting other peoples' property? Where have I said stealing is ok? Again, your ability pull sh!t out of your arse is 2nd to none.
9) The truth shall set you free. Too bad your blinders keep you from seeing the real truth.
10) Nothing wrong with lust. Just don't go overboard and harm someone or destroy property or break existing laws meant to control order

Read my thread on Bush approving only of heterosexual marriages. You'll see where I stand. And it's a far cry from your holier-than-thou, I-know-what's-right-by-God mentality.

BTW, I think I see where your problem lies. And, btw, your link in your profile is broken.

You were the one who said we should not base any law on religious belief. My list just took you at your word. Let's all live by the
"ANTI-10 Commandments" and see where society ends up.
Not that conjur needs me to fight his battles for him, but you make the fundamentally flawed ASSumption that without religion we would not have come to the same ideas on law (and, by some stroke of black magic, would instead come up with the exact opposite ideas). I'm sorry, but I don't need a bible to tell me not to kill someone.

l2c
 

luv2chill

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Thanks for all the effort you put into that thought-provoking post, Staley8... you're right... that means so much more than simply voting in the poll. :p

l2c
 

ILikeStuff

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I personally do not approve as I believe that it is immoral and wrong(that includes both lesbian and gay marriages), therefor no, I would not accept it and would vote against it if it were to come to a vote.
 

MagicianBdotCom

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I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?

 

luv2chill

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Feb 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?
More right-wing reactionary horsesh[/i]it. God, I pray that you will please enlighten your flock to the point where they understand that there is a vast degree of difference between two sexually mature people engaging in consensual sexual relations and one sexually mature person engaging in non-consensual sexual relations with a non-sexually mature person. Amen.

I'm sure if the guy hadn't already excluded bestiality that you would have included it in that post as well.

Now I'm just waiting for you to chime in with "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve".

l2c
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?

i would rather have two pedophiles get married than have them go out and get children...
 

TheNinja

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Originally posted by: luv2chill
Thanks for all the effort you put into that thought-provoking post, Staley8... you're right... that means so much more than simply voting in the poll. :p

l2c

hey luv2chill, do you realize that God made Adam and Eve, not Ad......nevermind ;)

also, the poll doesn't say, "do you approve of it", nor does it say "is it your business to care about it", it says "would you accept it", and no I wouldn't accept it as legal marriage.
 

luv2chill

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Feb 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?
Oh yeah, but the law says nothing about two straight pedophiles getting married. Or can straight women and men not be pedophiles? I suggest you do some research on pedophilia--the truth might surprise you.

l2c
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: luv2chill
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?
Oh yeah, but the law says nothing about two straight pedophiles getting married. Or can straight women and men not be pedophiles? I suggest you do some research on pedophilia--the truth might surprise you.

l2c

I'm not going to argue with you due to the tone your taking.

But I'm sure you can see the point about where Gay Marriages will take us. NAMBLA will get federal funding.
:D

But please face facts. The country does not want Gay Marriages.
 

Jzero

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But please face facts. The country does not want Gay Marriages.

The fact that this debate is going on indicates that there is a significant enough portion of this country concerned to make their lawmakers raise the issue.

You might not like where the country is going, but waving your hands won't change what's going on.
 

skace

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I can spot a homophobe a mile away and I see 4 of them in this thread. Can you spot them too?
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luv2chill

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: luv2chill
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?
Oh yeah, but the law says nothing about two straight pedophiles getting married. Or can straight women and men not be pedophiles? I suggest you do some research on pedophilia--the truth might surprise you.

l2c

I'm not going to argue with you due to the tone your taking.

But I'm sure you can see the point about where Gay Marriages will take us. NAMBLA will get federal funding.
:D

But please face facts. The country does not want Gay Marriages.
Suit yourself... I am just really tired of shooting down the same irrational and non-sensical arguments time after time. Nothing personal. Actually I consider myself to be a pretty nice guy. ;)

And yet it's like you didn't even read my posts. NAMBLA will not get federal funding because the overwhelming body of scientific research shows that children are psychologically and emotionally harmed by sexual contact. The fact that they are not yet sexually mature should make that point obvious even without the evidence.

Correct, the majority in this country do not want gay marriages. But that doesn't stop me from fighting for them. You know why? Because 50 years ago the majority in this country didn't want black people to use the same drinking fountains as white people. Because 100 years ago the majority in this country didn't think women were smart enough to vote.

I will welcome the day when the majority is in favor of allowing gay marriage because apparently that's when you will as well.

l2c
 

optoman

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Nov 15, 1999
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All you people that say no are idiots, YES IDIOTS. You have one life to live and you have the same privilages as everyone else in out society. It does not affect you if two men or two women get married. You are probably the same people that wanted to keep segregation(sp?). Live life to its fullest without screwing around with other people's lives.
 

Nitemare

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Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: luv2chill
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MagicianBdotCom
I don't see how letting gays get married effects anyone else other the people getting married. They should be able to do what they want. As long as it's humans getting married i'm okay with it (dogs and such, that's just rediculous :))

What next? Gay pedophiles getting married?
Oh yeah, but the law says nothing about two straight pedophiles getting married. Or can straight women and men not be pedophiles? I suggest you do some research on pedophilia--the truth might surprise you.

l2c

I'm not going to argue with you due to the tone your taking.

But I'm sure you can see the point about where Gay Marriages will take us. NAMBLA will get federal funding.
:D

But please face facts. The country does not want Gay Marriages.

Nor do we want bigots or homophobes, but unfortunately Mexico doesn't want them either, so we are stuck with them.
 

spidey07

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I will welcome the day when the majority is in favor of allowing gay marriage because apparently that's when you will as well.

I won't welcome it but of course I'll accept it. I already said I'm not really against Gay Marriages.

I'm against pandering to a minority opinion.
 

Yax

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I don't see nothing wrong with it except the following:

We would have to start accepting other types of marriages since we're so openminded. For example, why if someone wants to marry multiple wives and the women all want to marry him? Can we accept that too? How about a woman with multiple husbands? How about if someone felt they must marry their fish or dog or horse, etc. What should we do then? Changing the marriage structure can lead to destablizing it completely.

Other than that, I don't care who someone wants to marry as long as it doesn't affect me directly.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I don't see nothing wrong with it except the following:

We would have to start accepting other types of marriages since we're so openminded. For example, why if someone wants to marry multiple wives and the women all want to marry him? Can we accept that too? How about a woman with multiple husbands? How about if someone felt they must marry their fish or dog or horse, etc. What should we do then? Changing the marriage structure can lead to destablizing it completely.

Other than that, I don't care who someone wants to marry as long as it doesn't affect me directly.

I was under the impression that a marriage was the unity of 2 people. So the animals wouldn't really work. The only animal that would even be able to say "I do" would be a parrot anyways. Also, Multiple wives/husbands goes beyond the unity of 2 people. But, I am not completely against the multiple husbands / wives. If all the people involved think it is ok... then go with it. The divorce would be some sort of financial nightmare, I imagine.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: spidey07
I will welcome the day when the majority is in favor of allowing gay marriage because apparently that's when you will as well.

I won't welcome it but of course I'll accept it. I already said I'm not really against Gay Marriages.

I'm against pandering to a minority opinion.

so when you said:

"Where is the "hell No, no freaking way, when hell freezes over" button?",

you actually meant

"Where is the "hell No, no freaking way, when hell freezes over... except if the majority of the country accepts it" button?"


i don't see what opinions have to do about anything when it comes to how people live their own friggin' lives. i don't think you're really only against pandering to a minority opinion... or at least if you are, you should read up about cases where the majority opinion has been dead wrong. witch trials for instance... i'm sure there were one or two people that thought they should have been not brutally killed. but hey, that would be pandering to a minority opinion... can't have that happening.

 

KK

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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I don't see nothing wrong with it except the following:

We would have to start accepting other types of marriages since we're so openminded. For example, why if someone wants to marry multiple wives and the women all want to marry him? Can we accept that too? How about a woman with multiple husbands? How about if someone felt they must marry their fish or dog or horse, etc. What should we do then? Changing the marriage structure can lead to destablizing it completely.

Other than that, I don't care who someone wants to marry as long as it doesn't affect me directly.

I was under the impression that a marriage was the unity of 2 people. So the animals wouldn't really work. The only animal that would even be able to say "I do" would be a parrot anyways. Also, Multiple wives/husbands goes beyond the unity of 2 people. But, I am not completely against the multiple husbands / wives. If all the people involved think it is ok... then go with it. The divorce would be some sort of financial nightmare, I imagine.

Why couldn't we change the definition again to include animals. Hell, thats what the gays are doing with the word marriage now.

KK