Poll: Will the 2020 Olympics ever happen?

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Happens? Or never does?

  • The 2020 Olympics will happen starting as scheduled with opening ceremony Friday, July 23

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • The 2020 Olympics will happen, but will be delayed again from current schedule

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • The 2020 Olympics will be scrubbed

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • The 2020 Olympics will start on time but be prematurely terminated due to uncontrolled virus spread

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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All 50 states are experiencing increased covid cases presently. Mask recommendations, even mandates are springing up all over in the USA. There's continued discussion of Pfizer booster deployment, currently targeting the immuno-compromised, but that could change. The Olympics are always interesting, this one will be unusual. The protocols will be way different. I saw an IOC official on the news tonight saying that there will be strict adherence to principles that should prevent spread between teams. He expects that it will prevent spread, but that there's no way to be 100.0% sure.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Imagine working your ass off for the last 4 (5) years and having to pull out of the entire Olympics this week because of covid.

They didn't employ a bubble / quarantine like the local professional leagues here. If Japan allowed it, they could've had athletes come in weeks earlier to quarantine first. Then you'd have the proverbial bubble in Olympic Village where nobody is allowed to go anywhere outside it. It would've been a long & hefty commitment for everyone involved however.
 
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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Not looking to good so early already. I have a feeling the whole thing gets shutdown half way through, if before. Kind of sad really.

They really should have made it a bubble where no one can go in without quarantining first.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Imagine working your ass off for the last 4 (5) years and having to pull out of the entire Olympics this week because of covid.

They didn't employ a bubble / quarantine like the local professional leagues here. If Japan allowed it, they could've had athletes come in weeks earlier to quarantine first. Then you'd have the proverbial bubble in Olympic Village where nobody is allowed to go anywhere outside it. It would've been a long & hefty commitment for everyone involved however.
Apples and oranges.

How many NBA players entered the Orlando bubble last year? How many Olympic athletes are going to Tokyo now? The NBA said it spent many millions to operate the bubble, and that's with parent company Disney owning all the venues. MLB and NFL didn't operate as bubbles last year.

Reportedly, Olympic athletes aren't allowed to leave the village(s) and supposedly are asked to use a contact-tracing app. I don't know if that's opt-in or required. I think the Japanese are just trying to do the best they can without it being authoritarian government style repression. I'm not sure it's even viable to do a full 10-day quarantine, because some of the qualifications for the games happens within that window.

To a degree, it's just unfortunate timing for Japan. A month ago, Delta wasn't storming all over the world so the optics were a little better (and conditions safer). A month from now it will likely be impossible with domestic and international outrage, so here we are.
 
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Torn Mind

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I'm not saying it definitely happened but there's a lot of things that could've contributed. Infected surfaces anywhere along the way - you may have used sanitizer, only to then touch the bottle again afterward. Anything could've happened. Masks and everything else are only deterrents. I'm ultimately just curious about the circumstances that led to people getting infected.

The other week I was worried my kid may have gotten myocarditis from the vaccine (multiple instances of shortness of breath), which has been big news in the last month. The soccer player who collapsed suddenly had a heart/lung(?) episode too. I was curious about his vaccination circumstances then, which still isn't clear...
My point is that the virus is a tough, clingy microbe. Far more than the flu, as evidenced with the severe decrease in flu cases due to all the measures taken. Even with vigilance, it can get around the barriers.

I didn't use sanitizer bottle. I also fear death, and disregarded both the overt stupidity(only old people, 99% survival rate) along with the devilish "intellectual's optimism"(not yet a pandemic, not airborne) that was floating around and continues to propagate in the present day. In short, I am willing to do more than the minimum and have the natural inclination to do so. My mental health does not mind an isolated state.

I rarely touch my face. I have such poor facial hair growth, I only need to cut it with scissors every 7-14 days. I definitely don't do any makeup, etc, as a male.

Since this thing debilitates me for about 3-4 months afterwards....I have every intention of continuing to take precautions.

My life is basically doing things in the house or "go to store".

My investigation is not complete yet. On my bucket list is getting antibody testing for sister and mom, and maybe even myself. Then I will like try to time the vaccine just right because I'm not sure if the spike protein alone might cause a strong cytokine reaction. Getting vaccinated would satisfy an intellectual curiosity of mine, which is whether my immune system will do anything damaging in response to just the spike protein given that during a real infection, I have only experienced fatigue and feeling windedduring the time the virus present.

Furthermore, I suspect I got hit with the original in Nov 2019. Reason being that the extreme fatigue was, in hindsight, unnatural and not my baseline even accounting for sleep deprivation and muscle knots. I laid down in bed for almost two weeks, having just enough to eat but feeling winded just taking a couple things up the steps.

This round, the damage was upped and I had more pronounced post-infection symptoms, mainly coughing and feeling irritated in the heart/chest area below the first rib, meaning that if it was a second round, I got a more potent variant than the one that made me Mr. Fatigued. So, if the trend continues, if I get Delta, it will hit me even worse.

For me, disambiguation between COVID and other diseases is rather easy, as it does not irritate my upper respiratory tract(collarbone and up) during active infection.
 

WelshBloke

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The whole endevour seems like just more evidence that 'sport' is entirely about money.

Absolutely. It's clearly not about fitness or promoting any sort of health aspects because this event is absolutely going to end up killing people.
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
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"Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors." Your doubt has nothing to do with it.
If one gets taken from the supplies provided....I think it's obvious someone knows what it will be used for. ;)
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Imagine working your ass off for the last 4 (5) years and having to pull out of the entire Olympics this week because of covid.

They didn't employ a bubble / quarantine like the local professional leagues here. If Japan allowed it, they could've had athletes come in weeks earlier to quarantine first. Then you'd have the proverbial bubble in Olympic Village where nobody is allowed to go anywhere outside it. It would've been a long & hefty commitment for everyone involved however.
I actually want morons to die from an easily preventable disease. The problem is just like everything else in life the stupid people have a nasty habit of surviving will simultaneously killing innocents around them.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I have instructions from the leading brands and authorities, such as the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/external-condom-use.html

I doubt people will deviate much from the use as direct labeling.
My comment was concerning your contention that condom usage would be as much as ever. That would seem to be the question of how many condoms are given out. It's probably too early to know. Well, unless you do know, you don't. And I will point out what should be obvious: There's not just STDs and unwanted pregnancy to be concerned with this Olympics, there's the virus.
 
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rh71

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I actually want morons to die from an easily preventable disease. The problem is just like everything else in life the stupid people have a nasty habit of surviving will simultaneously killing innocents around them.
That would be nice to be rid of the attention-seeking idiots, but they also serve to make the news and increase our numbers keeping the outlook bleak. Again are we having at-home schooling for another year as a result?
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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That's...not really the same thing...at all.


Close enough to make sense to me! ;)


I actually want morons to die from an easily preventable disease. The problem is just like everything else in life the stupid people have a nasty habit of surviving will simultaneously killing innocents around them.


Sadly the odds of enough morons dying of Covid to have any positive influence on the actual gene-pool are pretty slim.

:(
 
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Muse

Lifer
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That IOC president who insists it's all perfectly safe appears to be cut from the same cloth as the mayor of Amity Island in Jaws.
You know, I beg to differ. Yes, the mayor wanted the coin to keep rolling in. However, if he'd closed the beach he wouldn't have disappointed thousands who'd been dreaming and training their whole lives for what they had come to accept as the opportunity of their lifetimes.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
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Close enough to make sense to me! ;)





Sadly the odds of enough morons dying of Covid to have any positive influence on the actual gene-pool are pretty slim.

:(
yeah they tend to reproduce at a younger age than smart people.

There was a video about this somewhere. I need to find it.
 
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ultimatebob

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My comment was concerning your contention that condom usage would be as much as ever. That would seem to be the question of how many condoms are given out. It's probably too early to know. Well, unless you do know, you don't. And I will point out what should be obvious: There's not just STDs and unwanted pregnancy to be concerned with this Olympics, there's the virus.

Don't we WANT Olympians to get knocked up by other Olympians, though? It's like horse racing... you're not going to get better Olympians unless you breed them with other Olympians!
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
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Don't we WANT Olympians to get knocked up by other Olympians, though? It's like horse racing... you're not going to get better Olympians unless you breed them with other Olympians!
Only athletes like Olympians can have a sexual experience like Mars and Venus themselves were engaging in the act because their bodies are beyond well-prepped.
 

Edgy

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LOL...

Anti-sex beds

And why cardboard? Could it really be for environmental reasons? NOPE, I don't buy it.

Previous Japanese Prime Minister Abe's older brother owns the packing company that provides cardboards materials company Airweave who makes the bed.

Nice to have that family "connection" when you're a business man. Who cares about guest athletes' comfort eh?

Btw - Japanese athletes don't stay with guest athletes at the village - they have their own private facility off-site with REAL furniture beds that's not cardboard (normal size hotel bed size which in comparison seems huge) and much more spacious rooms.

How? Olympic organizers put in a little exception to the room & board rule for the athletes that "as long as facility is approved by organizing committee..." any facility can be used. So they approved the off-village site for their own athletes and kept it hush hush.

A bit of home court advantage *wink* *wink*...
 

Muse

Lifer
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“Cardboard beds are actually stronger than the one made of wood or steel,” Airweave said in a statement on Monday.

Dunno the motivations, but the recycling thing is likely for real. Population density is intense in Japan, recycling has to be a priority.

People who want to copulate generally find a way! :D