POLL: What is the most discriminated group in America today?

[yoda291]

the most discriminated group is me.

 

[Moonbeam]

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[Kev]

LOL, what a stupid poll.

I vote Eskimo

 

[sciencetoy]

Interesting thread. White guys may or may not be the most discriminated group, but they sure are the most misunderstood. What we seem to have here is the automatic assumption that white guys have it easy. As a white guy myself, that ain't true. Just because SOME white guys get elected president because of their daddy, doesn't mean that all of us have some fantastic "in".

And, please stop assuming that because we're white, we've never known discrimination. You think some magic dust protects us just because we're white? Not in my experience. I get beat up by a bunch of guys calling me whitey, and I can't respond or hit back because THEN I would be racist. Hmmmmm.

This is one messed up country in a lot of ways.

 

[Spudd]

Originally posted by: sciencetoy
Interesting thread. White guys may or may not be the most discriminated group, but they sure are the most misunderstood. What we seem to have here is the automatic assumption that white guys have it easy. As a white guy myself, that ain't true. Just because SOME white guys get elected president because of their daddy, doesn't mean that all of us have some fantastic "in".

And, please stop assuming that because we're white, we've never known discrimination. You think some magic dust protects us just because we're white? Not in my experience. I get beat up by a bunch of guys calling me whitey, and I can't respond or hit back because THEN I would be racist. Hmmmmm.

This is one messed up country in a lot of ways.

You got beat up by a bunch of black guys calling you whitey, and you fought back and were called a racist, or is this some weird hypothetical you pulled out of your ass?

 

[LongCoolMother]

it depends where. here, it almost seems like whites have become a minority and the majority of people are all asian. however, when i take trips out of state, then everybody you see is white, and its kind of nervousing

 

[purplehippo]

disabled

 

[Bigdude]

Originally posted by: Spac3d
How in the world can you people think that whites are discriminated more than hispanic or middle eastern people?

spanky has a point too.

Affirmative Action!! It's government mandated discrimination against White Males!!!!!!!!!

 

[HarryAngel]

Originally posted by: Bigdude

Originally posted by: Spac3d
How in the world can you people think that whites are discriminated more than hispanic or middle eastern people?

spanky has a point too.

Affirmative Action!! It's government mandated discrimination against White Males!!!!!!!!!

No, Afftermitive action is the goverments recognition of a social problem. Minorities are discriminated, so thats why you have affirmitive action.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Where angels fear to tread...

I have to agree that Middle Easterner's are taking a lot of sh1t lately...

What I've seen is that blacks/minority of your choice are still discriminated against to some degree, I see many minorities promoted to mid level management, but not beyond a certain level, I can't think of any "Superstar CEO's" that are a minority, except for Carly F from HP.

The glass ceiling still exists for minorities...

You-all ought to try the male nurse gig like I have, you become an instant 6% minority (94% female), and assumed to be gay...

Of course even the ugly male nurses (like me) that are straight have gotten more ass than a toilet seat, because we are in direct contact every day in a non-threatening environment with such a high percentage of females...

BTW, I'm happily out of the game & married

I do thank god every day I'm not a damn Canadian though

 

Odd, 1982-1965=17 years. Either your facts are off or your math is, which is it?

Odd, if you READ my post you would understand that 2007-1982 == 25. But since you probably just skimmed my post, I'll come to expect such idiocy from you.

So which is it kid? You need to make up your mind on whether discrimination either does or not happen to white males, because switching opinions doesnt give you much credibility.

Discrimination has no color bounds. Is that your profound point? Wow, did you learn that in school, or in your years on earth?

Because you are UNABLE to address FACTS. You speak in RHETORIC. I don't speak that language, sorry

Pot to kettle, you're black. For someone who speaks in facts, you havn't included ONE in any of your posts.

No, there isn't any.

Nope, slavery and segregation arn't discriminatory.

One class short of a minor in it.

So, you have graduated, or you have not? Join the club with us graduates. BTW, polisci was my minor too, funny.

Prove it. Shows some statistics that done come from race baiters like the NAACP.

One in every nine African American men in their twenties and early thirties was behind bars on June 30, 1999, the Justice Department reported, compared with one in 25 Hispanic men and one in 65 Anglo men. Among the 1,860,520 inmates, more than 560,000 were black men age 20 to 39.

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There is no single reason for this trend. The executive director of The Sentencing Project, Malcolm Young, says tougher drug charges and "three strikes'' laws bear much of the blame. Political one-upmanship -- seeing who can be tougher on drugs or crime -- undoubtedly is responsible for much of the increase. Old-fashioned racism probably plays a hand, given that about 12 percent of black males between the ages of 20 and 39 are in prison, compared to 4 percent of Hispanic males and 1.6 percent of white males of the same age. (Over the course of their lifetime, according to Bureau of Justice Statistics, nearly one-third of black males will see the inside of a jail or prison).

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Bureau of Justice Statistics is also... well, you can say a good reference yea?

I could keep going, but I'm sure you know what Google is right?

You alluded to inner cities being more black, now its more poor? Which is it? Or is it just a little more intertwined than your race baiting mind is able to comprehend?

After reading my posts, I can't see where I said that. Please quote me and make it easier for me.

I've accepted that fact that I was wronged and moved on. The only reason I bring it up is to prove that racial discrimination under the guise of "affirmative action" does exist.

No one is debating that fact. We are debating that the WHITE MALE is the MOST DISCRIMINATED against in America. We are disputing that because it's a lie, and it's a JOKE to think that the white man is more discriminated against than minorities.

Want a cookie?

No, I only mentioned it because you alluded to me being a minority. I was just clearing it up for your impossible implication ridden mind.

Who is the architect that is "designing" these systems that holds down blacks and hispanics? And tell me why he didnt feel like holding down asians?

The administration has been in and out of office since America began. The asians.. did we forget the concentration camps in california during war time. No, that wasn't discriminatory, that was for "national security" right? Just like how people of muslim descent are now profiled now?

Alabama is the default, dummy.

It's called a pot shot, jackass.

EDIT: Oh yea man, I'm SO OWNED!

 

[Lucky]

Odd, if you READ my post you would understand that 2007-1982 == 25. But since you probably just skimmed my post, I'll come to expect such idiocy from you.

You said, another 25 years. Semantics, but as long as I have from free time at work and can point something else wrong out....might as well do it.

But it gets better: The entire story you spewed as claimed as fact IS A HOAX. http://netsquirrel.com/combatkit/voting.html

Like most urban legends, this message urges you, in all capital
letters, to "PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN!!!!"
The message also urges you to contact your "Congress persons [sic],
Senators, Alderpersons, etc., to put a stop to this."


What the message fails to tell you is that it is a COMPLETE AND UTTER
HOAX! According to a fax I received this morning from the Washington
bureau of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (the NAACP),


"African-American voting rights were granted by the Fifteenth Amendment, which was passed immediately after the Civil War. Expiration of the Voting Rights Act will not terminate the rights granted under the Fifteenth Amendment."




So, should everyone be panicking about the imminent expiration of
the Voting Rights Act in 2007? HECK NO! According to the NAACP,

"If the [Voting Rights Act] is still needed in 2007, it can be extended again by a simple majority vote in Congress, along with the President's signature."

Additional expose

So not only were you wrong at when blacks were granted the right to vote, you were completely taken by a fake internet legend. Either that or you failed for history classes.

Pot to kettle, you're black. For someone who speaks in facts, you havn't included ONE in any of your posts.

Too late! But funny you mention facts when you are spreading internet rumors as "facts".

Nope, slavery and segregation arn't discriminatory.

Step out of the 1950's and tell me something of the last half century. Or god forbid, current.

So, you have graduated, or you have not?

I have indeed.

There is no single reason for this trend. The executive director of The Sentencing Project, Malcolm Young, says tougher drug charges and "three strikes'' laws bear much of the blame. Political one-upmanship -- seeing who can be tougher on drugs or crime -- undoubtedly is responsible for much of the increase.

Exactly, none of which is an any way directly racially discriminating. Unless you want to argue that blacks and hispanics just committ more crimes and that's why they are in jail more frequently...

Old-fashioned racism probably plays a hand, given that about 12 percent of black males between the ages of 20 and 39 are in prison, compared to 4 percent of Hispanic males and 1.6 percent of white males of the same age. (Over the course of their lifetime, according to Bureau of Justice Statistics, nearly one-third of black males will see the inside of a jail or prison).

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How does it conclude that "old-fashioned racism" has a part it in soley by raw statistics on what percentage of each race is in jail? It completely ignores crime rates for each race, types of crime being committed, tendency for different races to committ different crimes or certain drugs are punished more harshly....Or even any argument (some convincing) focusing on wealth and access to good attorney's and how those affect trial outcomes and sentencings.

No, I only mentioned it because you alluded to me being a minority.

I was under no such impression. If fact I alluded to the opposite when I called you an "apologist".

Just like how people of muslim descent are now profiled now?

Your only current, and therefore relevant, analogy to modern times. Of which sustained debate could be had on whether profiling of targeted group that has proven itself to have significant numbers of terrorists coming from it is actually discriminatory.

Oh yea man, I'm SO OWNED!

damm, we agree.

 

[StormRider]

Hot looking girls are the most discriminated group in America today.

 

[DaFinn]

The French... no wait, that's was IN America... hmm.

 

[classy]

Hahahahahahaha. Whites and gays are the most discriminated? What a joke.

 

[LunarRay]

Just yesterday I was walking Joey and two Wire hair Terriers looked down their snoots at him... He's a Silky Terrier and was very hurt by this.. so I'd vote that both the Yorkies and Silkies are the most discriminated... from personal experience.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Where angels fear to tread...

I have to agree that Middle Easterner's are taking a lot of sh1t lately...

What I've seen is that blacks/minority of your choice are still discriminated against to some degree, I see many minorities promoted to mid level management, but not beyond a certain level, I can't think of any "Superstar CEO's" that are a minority, except for Carly F from HP.

The glass ceiling still exists for minorities...

You-all ought to try the male nurse gig like I have, you become an instant 6% minority (94% female), and assumed to be gay...

Of course even the ugly male nurses (like me) that are straight have gotten more ass than a toilet seat, because we are in direct contact every day in a non-threatening environment with such a high percentage of females...

BTW, I'm happily out of the game & married

I do thank god every day I'm not a damn Canadian though

Your "god" must be Satan, because the real "god" would have put you in Canada for your own good!

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Dead Parrot, perhaps my post will be meaningful to you:

"Is this thread about a race to the bottom? I bet it is because everybody feels like the worst in the world."

Most of us are white males. While everybody feels it, you may be one of those rare birds that doesn't need to leak it out all over the place unconsciously.

While I have experienced discrimination as an individual and as a member of a group, I try to use these experiences to understand how more serious kinds of discrimination must make the victim feel. I always think back to a time when I was a child playing in a park with a black boy. My Grandma called us over to share some cookies she had brought with her. I could see the apprehension this young black boy had about coming over, not knowing how my Grandmother would react to him. My Grandma was a wonderful person and quickly made him feel welcome, but I've never forgotten how wrong it seemed that a little kid just like me would have to wonder how he would be treated just because of the color of his skin. This would have been in 1962 or so..

Since then lots of progress has been made, but as I said earlier I find it very disheartening when the most privileged group in our society becomes so self-involved that they no longer take the time to walk a mile in the other man's shoes.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Dead Parrot, perhaps my post will be meaningful to you:

"Is this thread about a race to the bottom? I bet it is because everybody feels like the worst in the world."

Most of us are white males. While everybody feels it, you may be one of those rare birds that doesn't need to leak it out all over the place unconsciously.

While I have experienced discrimination as an individual and as a member of a group, I try to use these experiences to understand how more serious kinds of discrimination must make the victim feel. I always think back to a time when I was a child playing in a park with a black boy. My Grandma called us over to share some cookies she had brought with her. I could see the apprehension this young black boy had about coming over, not knowing how my Grandmother would react to him. My Grandma was a wonderful person and quickly made him feel welcome, but I've never forgotten how wrong it seemed that a little kid just like me would have to wonder how he would be treated just because of the color of his skin. This would have been in 1962 or so..

Since then lots of progress has been made, but as I said earlier I find it very disheartening when the most privileged group in our society becomes so self-involved that they no longer take the time to walk a mile in the other man's shoes.

The walking you suggest is not possible. The remedy is much easier, I think, and much more difficult. We'd have to unlearn every thing that makes us feel good about ourselves to the point of having a purity of spirit unlikely found in the human psychie. Ideally we would act like the golfer does... the course is the objective that all must tackle. Play it where you hit it and wish the best for all. The theory of the mean spirited is to put down someone so to artificially elevate oneself. As long as someone is less we are more... equality can not survive in such an enviornment. What exists today that does not seek to elevate the one against the other?

 

[Spac3d]

I have read all of this thread, but I want to know white people... how were you discriminated against, BESIDES affirmative action. Base off one experience, you cannot say you have been discriminated the most - if you think it is, then you have never really been discriminated against.

 

[snidy1]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Gays, because people don't have to be quiet about it if they're against gays. Nobody seems too terribly concerned about discrimination against gays, so you say whatever you want about them and people won't care (many of them will agree with you).

You can call someone a lovely human, you can't call them a n!gger. (case in point, AT blocks the word "n!gger" but not "lovely human.")

I don't know where you're from but calling anyone a lovely human will get the whole community, straight and gay, lashing out against you..

You must live in the gay community.

 

[Moonbeam]

Dead Parrot:

While I have experienced discrimination as an individual and as a member of a group, I try to use these experiences to understand how more serious kinds of discrimination must make the victim feel. I always think back to a time when I was a child playing in a park with a black boy. My Grandma called us over to share some cookies she had brought with her. I could see the apprehension this young black boy had about coming over, not knowing how my Grandmother would react to him. My Grandma was a wonderful person and quickly made him feel welcome, but I've never forgotten how wrong it seemed that a little kid just like me would have to wonder how he would be treated just because of the color of his skin. This would have been in 1962 or so..

Since then lots of progress has been made, but as I said earlier I find it very disheartening when the most privileged group in our society becomes so self-involved that they no longer take the time to walk a mile in the other man's shoes.
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I would give any thing to know what it is that makes one person so sensitive and compassionate at a young age and another as course as stone. I vividly remember being with another boy, very young, maybe first of second grade. We were playing somewhere wild and he accidentally broke a birds nest and all the eggs. He went nuts with remorse and pain. It's amazing how little things like that can be remembered all your life. I sometimes wonder of those who long to see others treated well are those who have known great pain. I love the Buddhist prayer, I vow to save all sentient beings. I remember reading something about a person can be known by his aim. Thanks for the story. I spent memorial day thinking sad thoughts of what man does in war. To be reminded again that there are people around who care really brightens my day.

 

[LunarRay]

Moonbeam,

I would give any thing to know what it is that makes one person so sensitive and compassionate at a young age and another as course as stone. I vividly remember being with another boy, very young, maybe first of second grade. We were playing somewhere wild and he accidentally broke a birds nest and all the eggs. He went nuts with remorse and pain. It's amazing how little things like that can be remembered all your life. I sometimes wonder of those who long to see others treated well are those who have known great pain. I love the Buddhist prayer, I vow to save all sentient beings. I remember reading something about a person can be known by his aim. Thanks for the story. I spent memorial day thinking sad thoughts of what man does in war. To be reminded again that there are people around who care really brightens my day.[/quote]

The end of your above reminded me why today is special. I've been caught up in everything but the day's meaning... thank you for reminding me.

 

[thomsbrain]

gays.

for those of you who voted "whites," get over yourself. people like you make me ashamed to be white.

 

[Moonbeam]

thom, do you get this sense there's a growing sentiment that whites are racially stupid? Maybe it's time to start stupid pride month or something, or white clown week or something.