POLL: What is the most discriminated group in America today?

[Emveach]

This poll is useless to begin with. Its biased based on the fact that the majority of people that use this forum are white males. They might have voted this way due to AA they have seen, heard of, or themselves been a part of. If you would take this same poll to a population that was black by majority, then you would see black as the winning race. The same for if it was taken in a gay, chinese, middle eastern, etc. etc. community.

People always vote for themselves and if they themselves feel that they have been discriminated against in the past, or at the least, know someone who was, then thats how they will vote.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Emveach
This poll is useless to begin with. Its biased based on the fact that the majority of people that use this forum are white males. They might have voted this way due to AA they have seen, heard of, or themselves been a part of. If you would take this same poll to a population that was black by majority, then you would see black as the winning race. The same for if it was taken in a gay, chinese, middle eastern, etc. etc. community.

People always vote for themselves and if they themselves feel that they have been discriminated against in the past, or at the least, know someone who was, then thats how they will vote.

i don't think i've been discriminated against because i'm a white male & i've been around since before AA existed. my wife & i were discriminated against because we're heterosexuals - but that didn't make me think that every gay restaurant owner was a bigot.

my opinion is that most white males whining about AA just need an excuse for being a loser - because by nearly every measure white males have it pretty good.
i don't need to blame my failures on AA or the success of other people. i just have kept working hard & have been pretty well-rewarded.

 

[glugglug]

I am Jewish and I don't know why people would vote for Jews as most discriminated against. Although most applications never have a jewish option for race, sometimes I wonder whether it is better to put "white" or to put "other" and write it in. Would it be a plus qualifying you as a "minority" or would it be a minus because in any engineering type position, there is probably already a disproportionate number of jews?

 

This is hilarious. We have about 99% privileged white males on this forum, and 1% minorities, IF that.
We have a huge group of middle to upper middle class white boys on their COMPUTERS, on the INTERNET, complaining they are discriminated against, and how life is SO hard. Most of you probably own a car too. Mabey even a second one!
I'm sure many of you go out to eat at least once or twice a week.

Cry me a river.
While 85% of the prison population is minorities, no, they arn't discriminated against.

Seriously, you people who think that affirmative action is horribly discriminative I ask you to pull the school population numbers based upon race. I guarantee that over 90% of the population will be white.

No, we as whites arn't privileged, we have it REALLY hard, I mean, making that decision between the Mazda and the Honda is REALLY STRESSFUL RIGHT!?!?!?
Grow up, open your eyes.

 

[Haller]

I don't see any justification for complaints of people discriminating against white people. Seeing as how the majority of our government is made up of white males, and we've oppressed nationalities for centuries. I think the most discriminated group in my area are the gay and homeless people.

 

[Lucky]

Grow up, open your eyes.

How about you stop talking out of your ass?

 

[StageLeft]

I'd say gay or middle east, with Canadian Americans a close 3rd.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'd say gay or middle east, with Canadian Americans a close 3rd.

LOL damn, are you serious?

 

[Dragnov]

So genetics and race play no role in who gets to play in the NBA? Your statement is disengenuous at best. All those millions of dollars didn't attract those guys? Black athletes were born out of white discrimination at the corporate management level (making whites indirectly responsible for the fantastic achievements of black athletes)? But of course. Those 7' tall basketball players were *going* to be physicists and CEOs but white men forced them into basketball.

Uhh, the fact that the easiest place they can make lots of money is through professional sports is pretty sad to say. I'm not sure what you're getting at. Of course their physical endowments made them more likely to succeed in pro sports, but it still doesn't change the fact that the other options available to them are far less appealing.

I'm not sure what you think a rich person is, but I'd like to point out a few of their features: 1) They're a person. 2) They may not have been born rich, and then became a business executive. It probably happened the other way around. 3) Rich white people don't go around looking for other white people to bestow money upon.

Uhh yeah, I'm sure the rich white corporate executive worked his way up from nothing. Just look at George Bush! I'm sure he worked hard through life and not without handouts from dear old daddy. I'm sure these people don't look for other white people to bestow money upon, it just happens that white people are the best out there.

How do you know? Most people with ANY background that aspire to professional sports don't make it. Same with those that aspire to riches within business careers.

When was the last time you heard of a rich white person joining the NBA? When was the last time you heard of one trying at least? Please do tell.

Maybe. But then do you agree that rich powerful Jews mainly benefit other rich powerful Jews? At the expense of other groups?

Uhh okay? Whats your point?

you started off pretty good here but continued...

Which one of the bolded statements do you like? Is discrimination against whites BS or is in undeniable?.

Please read. Reverse discrimination does not exist. Discrimination does. Got it? I hope so.

Again, how does the existence of old rich families with prestigious Ivy League backgrounds and large trust funds benefit me as a non-rich white guy and others like me? MAYBE they help get legislation passed that helps other rich folks (Mr. Bush's recent tax cut comes to mind), but that isn't based on race.

It doesn't. It mainly helps rich white people. And programs like affirmative action is meant to counteract that. So go blame these rich elite white. God only knows how much we could progress if you guys actually spent your time fighting them instead of the minorities. Then these programs like affirmative action wouldn't have to exist and be necessary.

 

[everman]

IT people.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Haller
I don't see any justification for complaints of people discriminating against white people. Seeing as how the majority of our government is made up of white males, and we've oppressed nationalities for centuries. I think the most discriminated group in my area are the gay and homeless people.

And as far as gays being picked on, if they would act half-straight(not a raving queen like the guy in Will and Grace) and not force people to acknowledge their gayness nobody would have a problem with gay people.

Before somebody calls me a homophobe, I don't like straight people who always want to talk about being straight either.

I prefer when people keep their private stuff just that, private. Forcing me to acknowledge or approve of anything you do in private is stupid.

 

[her209]

If you losing, then who's winning? It ain't us.

-Chris Rock

 

[Kanalua]

What about Hawaiians? Largest indeginous group in the United States...

Add my people to the poll!!!

 

[josphII]

keep in mind that the question wasnt "who is at the biggest socioeconomic disadvantage" but "who is the most discriminated against"

white males have the toughest time getting into colleges
white males are the least likely to qualify for scholarships
white males with an average to low gpa are often over looked by company's in favor of women and minorites

whites are held to a higher standard than the rest and thus are given the toughest road to travel

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Kanalua
What about Hawaiians? Largest indeginous group in the United States...

Add my people to the poll!!!

Bah, you Hawaiians have it made! You live in paradise. No pity for you.

 

[przero]

Haller - And how are the homeless discriminated against?

 

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How about you stop talking out of your ass?

Oh PLEASE. You must think that affirmative action is some grossly wrong idea. Please, if you are in school, pull the population numbers. Or mabey you'd rather not know, because you are a white male, and the truth would be too hard to handle.
Please, pull the prison population numbers too. Also, while you're at it, pull the numbers for the demographic makeup of the inner cities. Might as well pull up the graduation rates for thoes inner city schools too. Mabey you could pull up the funding amounts for thoes inner city schools too. Lets pull social assistance ratios too. While you're on that page, might as well pull the average income rates between whites and minorities.
It's closet racists like yourself that keep this nation the way it is.

The white male run American govt. starts things like affirmative action to keep the focus off the fact that the white male is the most privileged person in America, bar none.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: josphII
keep in mind that the question wasnt "who is at the biggest socioeconomic disadvantage" but "who is the most discriminated against"

white males have the toughest time getting into colleges
white males are the least likely to qualify for scholarships
white males with an average to low gpa are often over looked by company's in favor of women and minorites

whites are held to a higher standard than the rest and thus are given the toughest road to travel

Wow at first I thought you were being sarcastic but now I just realize you're just stupid.

 

[Lonyo]

I would say it's the Amazon indians. They live in America, so they should be up there to. Just because they live in Brazil and not the USA doesn't mean they don't live in America. And I think they're discriminated against.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: Spac3d
How in the world can you people think that whites are discriminated more than hispanic or middle eastern people?

Simple. The morons among the white group vote white. The world has to revolve around them as it has done so historically. Anything else is bad since its worse for them and it helps others. Equality and fairness!

Well white people are the minority of the world. Have you ever looked up the numbers?

 

Well white people are the minority of the world. Have you ever looked up the numbers?

Oh GOD. Funny how the minority of population, is the majority of wealth and power.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: Spac3d
How in the world can you people think that whites are discriminated more than hispanic or middle eastern people?

Simple. The morons among the white group vote white. The world has to revolve around them as it has done so historically. Anything else is bad since its worse for them and it helps others. Equality and fairness!

Well white people are the minority of the world. Have you ever looked up the numbers?

Wow, you do know sheer population numbers do not determine whether one is a minority or not right?

I mean the fewer number of white people in this world didn't stop them from imperialism. I'm sure Europeans didn't exploit and brutally opress anyone such as blacks and Indians. Nah, history is lying.

 

[Lucky]

Oh PLEASE. You must think that affirmative action is some grossly wrong idea.

Yes I do, especially as a white male who has been a victim in the job market because of it.

Please, if you are in school...

I'm not in school

Please, pull the prison population numbers too.

What do raw prison numbers show? If you want to simplistically attribute higher than normal incarceration for minorities as a direct effect of discrimination, it's just as easy to say that the sole reason is because blacks and hispanics do more drugs and committ more crimes.

Also, while you're at it, pull the numbers for the demographic makeup of the inner cities.

And what does that show?

Might as well pull up the graduation rates for thoes inner city schools too.

And that is a direct result of discrimination or racism?

Mabey you could pull up the funding amounts for thoes inner city schools too.

It's my opinion that basing school funding largely on local property taxes creates some problems, but just because the rich suburbs pay more in taxes than run-down inner cities does not equal discrimination.

Lets pull social assistance ratios too.

What, are we forcing black and hispanics to go on welfare?

While you're on that page, might as well pull the average income rates between whites and minorities.

Raw income statistics mean nothing. There are dozens of variables that can account for differences, including age, sex, geographic location, length of time in workplace, educational background, criminal history...and on and on. But if you want to strictly rely on raw data, why do jews, gays, and asians make more than the "majority"?

It's closet racists like yourself that keep this nation the way it is.

Oh yes, I'm a racist because I'm sick of hearing apologist dipsh*ts like you try and explain that the world is racist by spouting raw statistics. Uh-huh.

The white male run American govt. starts things like affirmative action to keep the focus off the fact that the white male is the most privileged person in America, bar none.

Boy, that sure feels good to me as a white male victim of affirmative action denied 2 jobs eventually given to 2 grossly underqualified black woman. At least I have the consolation that YOU say I'm benefitting from it! '


edit: I just read that again....you don't by chance think we faked the moon landing do you? Or that a plane did not hit the pentagon?

 

What do raw prison numbers show? If you want to simplistically attribute higher than normal incarceration for minorities as a direct effect of discrimination, it's just as easy to say that the sole reason is because blacks and hispanics do more drugs and committ more crimes.

Wow, your true colors shine through.

Boy, that sure feels good to me as a white male victim of affirmative action denied 2 jobs eventually given to 2 grossly underqualified black woman. At least I have the consolation that YOU say I'm benefitting from it!

Yea yea, everyone and their mom has lost a job to a "grossly underqualified <enter race here>". Join the club.

Oh yes, I'm a racist because I'm sick of hearing apologist dipsh*ts like you try and explain that the world is racist by spouting raw statistics. Uh-huh.

Thanks for the personal insult, thoes usually come out when you feel like a jackass. Although, in this particular instance, you ARE a jackass.

I'd rather not quote every line you typed and then make a retort. I'll do it in paragraph form.

The system was designed to keep the white man at the top. It has successfully done that for hundreds of years, have we forgotten history? Let's see, blacks have only had the right to vote since 1965, nope, NO DISCRIMINATION THERE!
Oh, also, in 1982 Ronald Reagan signed an amendment to extend the right for another 25 years. Congress will decide if blacks will continue to have the right to vote in 2007. It's called the Voting Rights Act of 1982, I'm SURE you know ALL about that right? Nope, no discrimination there! The list goes on, but I'm SURE you are a poli-sci graduate right?
If you look at prison numbers, as compared to drug abuse statistics, its VERY unbalanced. It's been proven more than once that young white males are the largest consumer of illicit drugs in the nation. It has been linked to numerous other times in other articles. So, your whole arguement is flawed.
Inner cities are packed with lower income earners, because thats the only place they can afford to live. It's been setup like that for a reason.

So you did not get two jobs that you thought you had nailed. That almost sounds like the recording industry going after people for "lost potential profits". So, all in all, you just sound like a selfish "good ole boy" jealous that them damned negros are finally getting something in return for being slaves on your plantations for hundreds of years.

Oh, BTW, I'm a young white male. I have been bumped from a potential job because of lack of minority workers in the job.
No matter how much affirmative action gives the minorites, I can almost GUARANTEE that I will maintain a better standard of living than them. It's designed to be that way.
I think that living in Alabama and being white, automatically qualifies you as a possible racist.

 

[Lucky]

Wow, your true colors shine through.

Yours do too, apparently, since you are so stupid to think that anything that has ever gone wrong to (x) minority is a result of oppresion from the great mighty whitey.

Yea yea, everyone and their mom has lost a job to a "grossly underqualified <enter race here>". Join the club.

So which is it kid? You need to make up your mind on whether discrimination either does or not happen to white males, because switching opinions doesnt give you much credibility.

Thanks for the personal insult, thoes usually come out when you feel like a jackass. Although, in this particular instance, you ARE a jackass.

I'd rather not quote every line you typed and then make a retort.

Because you are UNABLE to address FACTS. You speak in RHETORIC. I don't speak that language, sorry.

Let's see, blacks have only had the right to vote since 1965, nope, NO DISCRIMINATION THERE!

Actually, that date is wrong if you check your history books. The sixties may have abolished restricted designed to exclude poor illiterate blacks from voting but other have been voting for decades longer than that.

Also, please tell me how that is of relevance 40 years later.

Oh, also, in 1982 Ronald Reagan signed an amendment to extend the right for another 25 years.

Odd, 1982-1965=17 years. Either your facts are off or your math is, which is it?

Nope, no discrimination there!

No, there isn't any.

The list goes on, but I'm SURE you are a poli-sci graduate right?

One class short of a minor in it.

If you look at prison numbers, as compared to drug abuse statistics, its VERY unbalanced.

Prove it. Shows some statistics that done come from race baiters like the NAACP.

It's been proven more than once that young white males are the largest consumer of illicit drugs in the nation.

Of course they are, dorkwad; because there are tens of millions more whites in the country. And they tend to use drugs which do not cause as much social harm. But show me your statistics anyways on this matter and we can fine-tune the debate a little more.

Inner cities are packed with lower income earners, because thats the only place they can afford to live. It's been setup like that for a reason.

You alluded to inner cities being more black, now its more poor? Which is it? Or is it just a little more intertwined than your race baiting mind is able to comprehend?

So you did not get two jobs that you thought you had nailed. That almost sounds like the recording industry going after people for "lost potential profits".

I've accepted that fact that I was wronged and moved on. The only reason I bring it up is to prove that racial discrimination under the guise of "affirmative action" does exist.

So, all in all, you just sound like a selfish "good ole boy" jealous that them damned negros are finally getting something in return for being slaves on your plantations for hundreds of years.

My family owned neither slaves nor plantations.

Oh, BTW, I'm a young white male.

Want a cookie?


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No matter how much affirmative action gives the minorites, I can almost GUARANTEE that I will maintain a better standard of living than them. It's designed to be that way.

Who is the architect that is "designing" these systems that holds down blacks and hispanics? And tell me why he didnt feel like holding down asians?

I think that living in Alabama and being white, automatically qualifies you as a possible racist.

Alabama is the default, dummy.