<< Choosing between a school IS a major decision
not unless you are a spoiled brat with the deluded impression that the name of a school will somehow make more of a difference than how you apply yourself. >>
Well..
a) I'm NOT, contrary to thought despite not having mentioned it anywhere, choosing between a school. So your insult is...to no one.
b) The basis of that statement is just so off I'll go back to homework rather than to give my honorable opinions as to why..
Well okay I'll modifty all my plans because someone on this great message board basing their opinions on my posts told me so..Give me your phone number so I can show you my appreciation one of these days.
No one asked you to modify your plans. You asked for viewpoints which in the end you say you didn't even care about in the first place. Keep it up and you'll get nowhere fast...sure you get your kicks out of being the smartass here, but go ahead, see how far that kind of attitude will get you in life. People have probably already told you this before, so I don't want to hear another smartass response back. Just don't respond back...yes, please, go do your homework. I wish you the best of luck at Berkeley...hopefully you'll learn yourself how to treat others when you get there, since you sure don't know now.
No one asked you to modify your plans. You asked for viewpoints which in the end you say you didn't even care about in the first place. Keep it up and you'll get nowhere fast...sure you get your kicks out of being the smartass here, but go ahead, see how far that kind of attitude will get you in life. People have probably already told you this before, so I don't want to hear another smartass response back. Just don't respond back...yes, please, go do your homework. I wish you the best of luck at Berkeley...hopefully you'll learn yourself how to treat others when you get there, since you sure don't know now.
I really don't know what's funniest between...
*the fact that some of the people here get riled up so easily at my useless comments
*the fact that some of the people here think a cheap insult is the best way to refute any points
*the fact that some of the people here are garnering it as an insult to tell me to go to one of the most prestigious universities in America, and in the world (certainly in my intended major Computer Science)
*the fact that some of the people here are trying to act and say things that my mom would tell me when all else fails
*the fact that I find those things funny
*the fact that some of the people here get riled up so easily at my useless comments
*the fact that some of the people here think a cheap insult is the best way to refute any points
*the fact that some of the people here are garnering it as an insult to tell me to go to one of the most prestigious universities in America, and in the world (certainly in my intended major Computer Science)
*the fact that some of the people here are trying to act and say things that my mom would tell me when all else fails
*the fact that I find those things funny
<< Choosing between a school IS a major decision
not unless you are a spoiled brat with the deluded impression that the name of a school will somehow make more of a difference than how you apply yourself. >>
School name has importance in what companies approach those schools or offer internships. As far as which one is better? I couldn't tell you. I can tell you that I think the UC system is a bit of a joke. It's too damn easy to get into Berkeley and UCLA the so called elites of the UC system. These are 2 school that I avoided completely. I did not want to be a part of those schools because I saw the types of people from my school that were accepted. Now I went to UCI. And after that, I believe there is a fundamental flaw in our entire educational system across the nation (but that's for another thread).
Private schools tend to have more successful people because those graduates have more offers. I believe Stanford would provide a "better" and more promising education than one from Cal (ugh hate that). If I'm not mistaken, they have more resources (more money).
Sorry to crap on this thread, but to compare two universities based on what? Sorry I didn't see what you were basically basing this poll on. Academic reputation? what is that? What people think of the education of a particular university? Hmmmm.... doesn't say much. Size of classes? well that does have some importance in the type of education you get, but someone who applies themselves will also reach the same success.
And comparing mascots? What is that? The setting of a school? Too many variables to say which one is "better" when better cannot be determined with too many different variables. I think you already went through the points and compared them one to one.
Berkeley operates under the presitgious UC system? What is that? You mean the money hungry regents? Hahahah, what a joke! UCI is probably one of the wealthiest UCs (don't know this for a fact). They are a business entity. They have alot of land which was recently turned into a research park? Cisco's in there, so is Toshiba and several other companies. They pay BIG money to be there. The entire UC system runs more like a business than actually teaching useful things. All UC undergrad compared with private undergrad.... there is not comparison. Education for undergrad in private is far superior to that in public system... Ok I'm done, getting sick of this thread...
Exactly what have I said that's nonsense?
Your entire defense of Berkeley is nonsense.
Berkeley is a public school. Where federal and state grants flourish. The COMPETITION is not entirely based on PRESTIGE. Students are competing for a free ride which just happens to be a better than average institution.
Regardless, it is a liberal wheel of lotion. About the only good thing to come out of Berkeley is BIND and that was like 20 years ago... and it was flawed nonetheless.
Your also spewing nonsense because your original post was a question. And your follow up posts were entirely leaning in one direction.. which is sad, and pathetic.
If you think that prestige is going to make you smarter then you are full of more nonsense than anyone can ever get out of you.
Your entire defense of Berkeley is nonsense.
Berkeley is a public school. Where federal and state grants flourish. The COMPETITION is not entirely based on PRESTIGE. Students are competing for a free ride which just happens to be a better than average institution.
Regardless, it is a liberal wheel of lotion. About the only good thing to come out of Berkeley is BIND and that was like 20 years ago... and it was flawed nonetheless.
Your also spewing nonsense because your original post was a question. And your follow up posts were entirely leaning in one direction.. which is sad, and pathetic.
If you think that prestige is going to make you smarter then you are full of more nonsense than anyone can ever get out of you.
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Why don't u treat ppl with the same respect you think you deserve.
Good luck transfering into Berkely and getting into the CS program. Don't assume just because you can transfer into the school you can get into one of the most highly contested programs they have.
Good luck transfering into Berkely and getting into the CS program. Don't assume just because you can transfer into the school you can get into one of the most highly contested programs they have.
School name has importance in what companies approach those schools or offer internships.
I'm sure that if the title of the post was 'which school will give me a better chance of getting internships' that would apply... but if we are talking future success some of the most well known and successful minds in this country did not attend prestigious universities.
Name means nothing, application means everything.
My 2 cents.
I'm sure that if the title of the post was 'which school will give me a better chance of getting internships' that would apply... but if we are talking future success some of the most well known and successful minds in this country did not attend prestigious universities.
Name means nothing, application means everything.
My 2 cents.
hey GoldenBear wtf is this?
http://forums.anandtech.com/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=379929
I wouldn't waste your parents money if you plan on getting bad grades and not applying yourself at a school like berkeley.
http://forums.anandtech.com/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=379929
I wouldn't waste your parents money if you plan on getting bad grades and not applying yourself at a school like berkeley.
<< It's too damn easy to get into Berkeley and UCLA the so called elites of the UC system. >>
Uhh? With 30,000+ applicants and only about a quarter of those getting in...and even less getting into one of the "high-end" major..you consider it, easy?
<< I did not want to be a part of those schools because I saw the types of people from my school that were accepted. >>
You mean people with 1400+ SAT's and 4.0+ GPAs? Yes, no reason to hang around smart people..
<< I believe Stanford would provide a "better" and more promising education than one from Cal (ugh hate that). >>
If you get into Stanford, it is nearly impossible not to graduate. In fact it takes a mighty special student not to, after paying their way through it. A degree in EE or CS, or EECS at Berkeley though (and with a reasonable GPA), will pretty much land you 98% of any techie job out there with a considerable salary, benefits, and bonus. Only MIT is comparable to that.
I'm definitely NOT saying a degree at Stanford doesn't mean anything, because you have to be incredibly special to be accepted there in the first place, and those types of people more often than not will complete the challenge.
<< If I'm not mistaken, they have more resources (more money). >>
Money = success. I'll live by those rules.
<< They are a business entity >>
It's a PUBLIC school. Think about that for a second..
And that comment totally contradicts your previous statement.
<< hey GoldenBear wtf is this?
http://forums.anandtech.com/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=379929
I wouldn't waste your parents money if you plan on getting bad grades and not applying yourself at a school like berkeley. >>
Let me get your logic straight here...you're basing my academic ability, and my ability to earn good grades at school, from my posts in this very forum? That's...unique.
Although the idea that college recruiters browse this forum looking for kids is quite interesting.
And since you seem to worry much about my parent's welfare..a community college is cheaper than you would think.
And really, I feel really honored that you'd dig through archived posts in order to find as much dirt and attempts at cheap insults as you have displayed..
Now which side are you on again, the side that disputes Berkeley, or the one that disputes me, or both?
And really, I feel really honored that you'd dig through archived posts in order to find as much dirt and attempts at cheap insults as you have displayed..
Now which side are you on again, the side that disputes Berkeley, or the one that disputes me, or both?
No, you genius, I'm basing your ability on what you said on March 16th:
In other words, will my not so excellent high school grades and all MATTER? If so, that'd be the greatest thing EVER!
In other words, will my not so excellent high school grades and all MATTER? If so, that'd be the greatest thing EVER!
Now which side are you on again, the side that disputes Berkeley, or the one that disputes me, or both?
I'm on the side of common sense.
If you are going to spend 120,000 on an education please do not do it with the belief that the name alone will make you brilliant. You will come out of college a very smart individual with the ability to apply your new found gifts to everyday life REGARDLESS of which school you attend.
So as someone else put it above so eloquently, if this is the type of conflict you are facing right now then you need to be shot in the leg. You may consider this a life altering decision but regardless of the decision made, it CAN alter your life for the good if you allow it to.
I'm on the side of common sense.
If you are going to spend 120,000 on an education please do not do it with the belief that the name alone will make you brilliant. You will come out of college a very smart individual with the ability to apply your new found gifts to everyday life REGARDLESS of which school you attend.
So as someone else put it above so eloquently, if this is the type of conflict you are facing right now then you need to be shot in the leg. You may consider this a life altering decision but regardless of the decision made, it CAN alter your life for the good if you allow it to.
<< No, you genius, I'm basing your ability on what you said on March 16th:
In other words, will my not so excellent high school grades and all MATTER? If so, that'd be the greatest thing EVER! >>
Wow you're pathetic.
I'll try to futher explain myself tomorrow..Perhaps I might fall to the level of searching for all your posts and use those against you.
Eh, maybe not.
<< Now which side are you on again, the side that disputes Berkeley, or the one that disputes me, or both?
I'm on the side of common sense.
If you are going to spend 120,000 on an education please do not do it with the belief that the name alone will make you brilliant. You will come out of college a very smart individual with the ability to apply your new found gifts to everyday life REGARDLESS of which school you attend.
So as someone else put it above so eloquently, if this is the type of conflict you are facing right now then you need to be shot in the leg. You may consider this a life altering decision but regardless of the decision made, it CAN alter your life for the good if you allow it to. >>
Eek I'm so tempted to reply here..
Look, you don't know SH!T about me. We've never met, and it's unlikely we ever will. You've never seen my transcript, you've never seen my homework, you've never seen my test scores, you've never seen ANYTHING. I don't know why you're going so low as to be so petty about everything here, and I don't care.
I'm not spending anywhere near $120,000. I have absolutely no idea where you can get a figure like that from. Two years a community college is CHEAP. My gov't scholarship thing will EASILY cover that, and leave some room left for when I go to Berkeley (hopefully).
If the name of the school DIDN'T matter, NO ONE would be making their lives miserable in high school trying to get into a big name school. Everyone would go to the cheapest school there is and go through it there.
My intention of going to Berkeley is to challenge myself, and it's a goal I hope to reach. If you're so dense enough to think that I'd go there for any other reason, then you're way off.
Now, perhaps you can learn, that because you've read a few posts of someone, it does NOT mean that you know ANYTHING about them. I'm sure you're not a total @$$ as you present yourself to be here, and that's cool. I certainly hope you're not.
You can't just let this die?
Eek I'm so tempted to reply here..
If what people here were saying is so meaningless as you pointed out earlier, you can go ahead and IGNORE IT. I ignore feminists, there's no reason why you can't ignore me.
Look, you don't know SH!T about me. We've never met, and it's unlikely we ever will. You've never seen my transcript, you've never seen my homework, you've never seen my test scores, you've never seen ANYTHING. I don't know why you're going so low as to be so petty about everything here, and I don't care.
After reading your posts I've been able to conclude quite a bit about you. I know that you are an asian male in your late teens as seen in the picture you posted the other day. I know that you have a tendency to attract attention as seen with your bold text in the past. I know that you intentionally try to make yourself feel better by proposing what appears to be an objective set of statements, only to then follow-up with your bias slant, as seen in this post. I know that you were more or less a slacker in high school as I was, and I conclude this by the fact that you admitted to having poor grades yet you are very concerned about your future education. If you simply didn't care about knowledge then you wouldn't be discussing school period.
I'm not spending anywhere near $120,000. I have absolutely no idea where you can get a figure like that from. Two years a community college is CHEAP. My gov't scholarship thing will EASILY cover that, and leave some room left for when I go to Berkeley (hopefully).
It was a simple point. A year with room and board at any prestigious university is going to run you 25,000+ a year. You need to make sure you know what you want before you fork over this kind of money. Are you going to apply yourself? Are you going to college to learn? If you are going to college to get a degree from a prestigious university with the hope that you can sell it on ebay to pay for early retirement you are going to be in for a big surprise.
If the name of the school DIDN'T matter, NO ONE would be making their lives miserable in high school trying to get into a big name school. Everyone would go to the cheapest school there is and go through it there.
The name of a school matters if you want it to. But as a stressed earlier how you apply yourself is the most important thing.
My intention of going to Berkeley is to challenge myself, and it's a goal I hope to reach. If you're so dense enough to think that I'd go there for any other reason, then you're way off.
And you don't think you can challenge yourself at a school that doesn't have national name recognition? Have fun wherever you go, college is the time of your life unlike high school... I'd know, I'm 2 years through and loving it.
Eek I'm so tempted to reply here..
If what people here were saying is so meaningless as you pointed out earlier, you can go ahead and IGNORE IT. I ignore feminists, there's no reason why you can't ignore me.
Look, you don't know SH!T about me. We've never met, and it's unlikely we ever will. You've never seen my transcript, you've never seen my homework, you've never seen my test scores, you've never seen ANYTHING. I don't know why you're going so low as to be so petty about everything here, and I don't care.
After reading your posts I've been able to conclude quite a bit about you. I know that you are an asian male in your late teens as seen in the picture you posted the other day. I know that you have a tendency to attract attention as seen with your bold text in the past. I know that you intentionally try to make yourself feel better by proposing what appears to be an objective set of statements, only to then follow-up with your bias slant, as seen in this post. I know that you were more or less a slacker in high school as I was, and I conclude this by the fact that you admitted to having poor grades yet you are very concerned about your future education. If you simply didn't care about knowledge then you wouldn't be discussing school period.
I'm not spending anywhere near $120,000. I have absolutely no idea where you can get a figure like that from. Two years a community college is CHEAP. My gov't scholarship thing will EASILY cover that, and leave some room left for when I go to Berkeley (hopefully).
It was a simple point. A year with room and board at any prestigious university is going to run you 25,000+ a year. You need to make sure you know what you want before you fork over this kind of money. Are you going to apply yourself? Are you going to college to learn? If you are going to college to get a degree from a prestigious university with the hope that you can sell it on ebay to pay for early retirement you are going to be in for a big surprise.
If the name of the school DIDN'T matter, NO ONE would be making their lives miserable in high school trying to get into a big name school. Everyone would go to the cheapest school there is and go through it there.
The name of a school matters if you want it to. But as a stressed earlier how you apply yourself is the most important thing.
My intention of going to Berkeley is to challenge myself, and it's a goal I hope to reach. If you're so dense enough to think that I'd go there for any other reason, then you're way off.
And you don't think you can challenge yourself at a school that doesn't have national name recognition? Have fun wherever you go, college is the time of your life unlike high school... I'd know, I'm 2 years through and loving it.
It's been kinda gross watching them beat us in sports the past few years. But still, I think that should do little to console them due to the fact that their women are pretty ugly.
Sure, there are a lot of factors to consider; academics, cost, safety...but I think the best way to sum it up is by saying that Stanford can "Eat a d*ck"
GO BEARS BABY!
Sure, there are a lot of factors to consider; academics, cost, safety...but I think the best way to sum it up is by saying that Stanford can "Eat a d*ck"
GO BEARS BABY!
When referring to the school you refer to their mascot in the plural form. When referring to an invidual going to that school, it's singular.
What are you talking about? It's always Cardinal cuz their moniker is a freakin' adjective! And the reason for that is that they're stupid and they're babies...those stupid babies
I won't lie though. I go to Cal and have visited Stanford for extended periods of time and both are pretty defunct socially. Unless you don't care about going crazy, I'd recommend staying away.
What are you talking about? It's always Cardinal cuz their moniker is a freakin' adjective! And the reason for that is that they're stupid and they're babies...those stupid babies
I won't lie though. I go to Cal and have visited Stanford for extended periods of time and both are pretty defunct socially. Unless you don't care about going crazy, I'd recommend staying away.
I'm an EECS major @ Cal. I'm going into my 3rd year now. Classes are HUGE . . . and it's hard to find help from people other than your friends . . . but it's been pretty fun so far.
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<< You actually make it sound like your opinion had any value to me. >>
Goldenbear
You, are by far, the biggest D!ck in this forum man. You proposed a question, and OuterSquare voiced his opinion. Take your lame condescending attitude to the next WWF event, I'm sure you can qualify as a ring builder. >>
What do you expect out of a punk high schooler.
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