Poll: Is it a sin to watch pr0n?

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
Seven Deadly Sins:

Lust
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Gluttony
Envy
Pride.....the deadliest sin

Don't lust for your wife

I lust for my girlfriend, so I guess I'm going to hell. But at least I'm going there with a smile on my face

 

[Ulfwald]

Watching porn is the same as committing adultery. Because you have "lusted" in your heart, which, to Jesus, is the same as the physical act.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: love1u0 If it is a sin I better stop my subscription to Playboy, RIGHT NOW!!!

Playboy is not porn. amish

And Christopher Lowel isn't gay.

nik

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: love1u0 If it is a sin I better stop my subscription to Playboy, RIGHT NOW!!!

Playboy is not porn. amish

And Christopher Lowel isn't gay.

nik

Grab a Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler and compare.... Playboy comes out way, way weak.... I cancelled my subscription a long, long time ago for just that reason.

amish

 

[kh3443]

PIC?

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: Omegachi

Originally posted by: shifrbv
If you believe in the New Testament, it is a sin. Jesus even went so far as to say that just looking at another woman meant the man had already committed adultery with her.

From this thread, looks like they'll be more room in heaven for me

damn, i think heaven must be a pretty empty place. I hope they have a ATOT in hell, cause if they don't have it, then it would be truely hell.

Matthew 5:27-30

"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Colossians 3:5

Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.

Personally, I feel that watching porn or having lust in the heart as sinful, and that no one is perfect in that they have never had lust in their hearts. For some, it becomes a habit. Whenever they're lonely or alone, porn quickly becomes the solution. Is this healthy?

Nicely put, from a Judeo-Christian perspective. I think what Moonbeam said shows the effects from a world-practical view as well, displaying what damage pr0n can do in relationships.

Porn is no different than cosmo, vogue, maxim or stuff ... it's biggest crime is that it paints an unrealistic and unnatianable image of what sex is.

Reason I can't stand romance novels - they're emotional pornography, geared towards women, which I consider as bad as pr0n. Whether you're indulging your fantasies through pics or through words, whether it's physical or emotional, you do damage to yourself and to your relationships.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: love1u0 If it is a sin I better stop my subscription to Playboy, RIGHT NOW!!!

Playboy is not porn. amish

And Christopher Lowel isn't gay.

nik

Grab a Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler and compare.... Playboy comes out way, way weak.... I cancelled my subscription a long, long time ago for just that reason. amish

por·nog·ra·phy Pronunciation Key (pôr-ngr-f)
n.
Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
The presentation or production of this material.
Lurid or sensational material: ?Recent novels about the Holocaust have kept Hitler well offstage [so as] to avoid the... pornography of the era? (Morris Dickstein).


Playboy is pornography.

nik

 

[iLoveDivX]

dang, you guys are pretty tense about this subject. i kinda just figured people would come in, throw a few jokes around, and gets locked.

 

[Stojakapimp]

For those of you who believe that it is ridiculous that you shouldn't be proud of your son or your family or anybody, then you have the wrong definiation of pride. C.S Lewis wrote a chapter on pride in Mere Christianity...i'd check it out if i were you

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: love1u0 If it is a sin I better stop my subscription to Playboy, RIGHT NOW!!!

Playboy is not porn. amish

And Christopher Lowel isn't gay.

nik

Grab a Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler and compare.... Playboy comes out way, way weak.... I cancelled my subscription a long, long time ago for just that reason. amish

por·nog·ra·phy Pronunciation Key (pôr-ngr-f)
n.
Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
The presentation or production of this material.
Lurid or sensational material: ?Recent novels about the Holocaust have kept Hitler well offstage [so as] to avoid the... pornography of the era? (Morris Dickstein).


Playboy is pornography.

nik

Based on that definition so is FHM, Maxim, Stuff, Cosmo, Redbook, SI: Swimsuit, and the Victoria's Secret catalog....

amish

 

[SaltBoy]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Playboy is pornography.

nik

Based on that definition so is FHM, Maxim, Stuff, Cosmo, Redbook, SI: Swimsuit, and the Victoria's Secret catalog....

amish

I think the line is drawn when explicit (i.e. nudity) comes into play. Even then, the things you mention above aren't exactly harmless, either.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: SaltBoy

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Playboy is pornography.

nik

Based on that definition so is FHM, Maxim, Stuff, Cosmo, Redbook, SI: Swimsuit, and the Victoria's Secret catalog....

amish

I think the line is drawn when explicit (i.e. nudity) comes into play. Even then, the things you mention above aren't exactly harmless, either.

I don't understand how pr0n can be harmful. I look at it sometimes. What is the problem?


: ) Amanda

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: SaltBoy

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt Playboy is pornography. nik

Based on that definition so is FHM, Maxim, Stuff, Cosmo, Redbook, SI: Swimsuit, and the Victoria's Secret catalog.... amish

I think the line is drawn when explicit (i.e. nudity) comes into play. Even then, the things you mention above aren't exactly harmless, either.

Even so, i didn't make up the definition. But, even so, some of those aren't meant for sexual arousal. They're not even designed to fit the male reader base - even though you pervs pick them up and get your jollies off on them anyway.

nik

 

[tantos]

Another thread for so-called Christians to come in and give their holier-than-thou
speech about how they are truly meant for heaven and all of you
sinners are a bunch of worthless cow manure.

There are more pressing sins to speak of in life such as people killing people.
So if a person who otherwise lives a great life helping out others and such but his
sin was watching porn, is he condemned to hell?

 

[Moonbeam]

Being condemned to hell has nothing to do with religious belief. Hell is a life as the small self. And yes, of course you are condemned, but not like you think. It's being condemned that sparks the interest in porn, not the other way round.

 

[yllus]

I'm literally laughing my ass off here. Religion is such a bunch of bull.

So the perfect follower of Christianity is to never masturbate or enjoy sexual thoughts until marriage, at which point sex is meant for procreation purposes only! No porn! No thiny-veiled girlie mags like Maxim! No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition! Change the channel immediately when sex scenes are on TV! ELSE THY IST HELLBOUND! But the holiest of followers, the very priests themselves...they can be forgiven for tiny things like using their position to sexually abuse little boys and at the most get transferred out of the region for it. Because it's not our place to judge them, it's God's place to be doing that. Thus they'll continue living a life of relative luxury in the world while the boys who have become men suffer from their experience every day of their lives.

OR:

It's not okay to do all that, but you won't go to hell for it anyway since Jesus died for our sins. That's such an obvious joke that I won't even go into it.

Fools and hypocrites, ye of faith. Which be ye?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: yllus
I'm literally laughing my ass off here. Religion is such a bunch of bull. So the perfect follower of Christianity is to never masturbate or enjoy sexual thoughts until marriage, at which point sex is meant for procreation purposes only! No porn! No thiny-veiled girlie mags like Maxim! No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition! Change the channel immediately when sex scenes are on TV! ELSE THY IST HELLBOUND! But the holiest of followers, the very priests themselves...they can be forgiven for tiny things like using their position to sexually abuse little boys and at the most get transferred out of the region for it. Because it's not our place to judge them, it's God's place to be doing that. Thus they'll continue living a life of relative luxury in the world while the boys who have become men suffer from their experience every day of their lives. OR: It's not okay to do all that, but you won't go to hell for it anyway since Jesus died for our sins. That's such an obvious joke that I won't even go into it. Fools and hypocrites, ye of faith. Which be ye?

when you actually know something about Christianity, feel free to try again. According to Christianity, sexuality is reserved for a married couple. When married, fsck your brains out: who cares. When you're not married, keep your mind clean. Simple and effective. Sin is forgivable in God's eyes, but not necessarily in man's eyes. The level of which a man's status in a church dictates only dictates his pay, not his righteousness, holiness, or purity. They're fallible men too, ya know.

nik

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: yllus
I'm literally laughing my ass off here. Religion is such a bunch of bull. So the perfect follower of Christianity is to never masturbate or enjoy sexual thoughts until marriage, at which point sex is meant for procreation purposes only! No porn! No thiny-veiled girlie mags like Maxim! No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition! Change the channel immediately when sex scenes are on TV! ELSE THY IST HELLBOUND! But the holiest of followers, the very priests themselves...they can be forgiven for tiny things like using their position to sexually abuse little boys and at the most get transferred out of the region for it. Because it's not our place to judge them, it's God's place to be doing that. Thus they'll continue living a life of relative luxury in the world while the boys who have become men suffer from their experience every day of their lives. OR: It's not okay to do all that, but you won't go to hell for it anyway since Jesus died for our sins. That's such an obvious joke that I won't even go into it. Fools and hypocrites, ye of faith. Which be ye?

when you actually know something about Christianity, feel free to try again. According to Christianity, sexuality is reserved for a married couple. When married, fsck your brains out: who cares. When you're not married, keep your mind clean. Simple and effective.

nik

So, what you are saying is that if a man has a sexual thought about someone before he is married that he will go to hell. Men do this all the time. A cute girl with a hot arse passes them by they think about sex with that person. Don't try to say that men don't do this because it is a natural reaction to a physically attractive woman.

Also, if sexuality is reserved to married couples is it wrong for a man to watch a video of him and his wife together. That is pr0n.


: ) Amanda

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

when you actually know something about Christianity, feel free to try again. According to Christianity, sexuality is reserved for a married couple. When married, fsck your brains out: who cares. When you're not married, keep your mind clean. Simple and effective.

nik

What the hell kind of rule is that? You say some words in front of some people and a minister, get a piece of paper that gives you a tax break and you're set to fsck all night? Hypothetically, if you loved a woman every bit as much as you would if the two of you were married and had sex, what's the difference? Because you had a little ritual beforehand it's okay? A wise God in my view would see a marriage ceremony as a triviality thing and wave it off. (God waves you in...IT'S ALL GOOD!!)

I actually take marriage very seriously and look forward to it at some undetermined point in my life, but I don't involve some higher being which requires I get it done in a church of his choosing in that thinking. It seems extraordinarily silly.

P.S. I actually find FFM to have one of the more balanced approaches to religion of any person I've met. I won't retract what I wrote earlier but I apologize for its antagonistic stance.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

So, what you are saying is that if a man has a sexual thought about someone before he is married that he will go to hell. Men do this all the time. A cute girl with a hot arse passes them by they think about sex with that person. Don't try to say that men don't do this because it is a natural reaction to a physically attractive woman.

Also, if sexuality is reserved to married couples is it wrong for a man to watch a video of him and his wife together. That is pr0n.


: ) Amanda

You have this down in an "if x, then y" format. The Bible sketches it out that everyone's sinned, doesn't measure up to the perfection of God, and so is going to die and go to hell. We're sinners from the beginning, looking at a girl's (or guy's) arse is just a manifestation of our nature. So, look at arse, go to hell, isn't exactly the way it works. Christianity says we, on our own, are messed up anyway. It also says that someone perfect lived, and undeservedly died, and voluntarily took our punishment for us, so we have the option not to pay for our arse-looking. The idea of a "Christian lifestyle" comes after that, instructing us to live cleanly in order to please the person that gave us such an incredibly perfect gift. There's no where in Christian doctrine that it says you have to live perfectly; in fact, it takes the exact opposite for granted.
And as for viewing husband&wife personal pr0n, that's within the bounds of maritial sexuality, not introducing outside things into the minds or relationship.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: yllus
I'm literally laughing my ass off here. Religion is such a bunch of bull. So the perfect follower of Christianity is to never masturbate or enjoy sexual thoughts until marriage, at which point sex is meant for procreation purposes only! No porn! No thiny-veiled girlie mags like Maxim! No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition! Change the channel immediately when sex scenes are on TV! ELSE THY IST HELLBOUND! But the holiest of followers, the very priests themselves...they can be forgiven for tiny things like using their position to sexually abuse little boys and at the most get transferred out of the region for it. Because it's not our place to judge them, it's God's place to be doing that. Thus they'll continue living a life of relative luxury in the world while the boys who have become men suffer from their experience every day of their lives. OR: It's not okay to do all that, but you won't go to hell for it anyway since Jesus died for our sins. That's such an obvious joke that I won't even go into it. Fools and hypocrites, ye of faith. Which be ye?

when you actually know something about Christianity, feel free to try again. According to Christianity, sexuality is reserved for a married couple. When married, fsck your brains out: who cares. When you're not married, keep your mind clean. Simple and effective. Sin is forgivable in God's eyes, but not necessarily in man's eyes. The level of which a man's status in a church dictates only dictates his pay, not his righteousness, holiness, or purity. They're fallible men too, ya know.

nik

i believe the bible says is not so many words that sex is for procreation not for recreation. i'm sure some of our well versed friends can find the passage if not i'll dig it up.

 

[Pooteh]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: yllus
I'm literally laughing my ass off here. Religion is such a bunch of bull. So the perfect follower of Christianity is to never masturbate or enjoy sexual thoughts until marriage, at which point sex is meant for procreation purposes only! No porn! No thiny-veiled girlie mags like Maxim! No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition! Change the channel immediately when sex scenes are on TV! ELSE THY IST HELLBOUND! But the holiest of followers, the very priests themselves...they can be forgiven for tiny things like using their position to sexually abuse little boys and at the most get transferred out of the region for it. Because it's not our place to judge them, it's God's place to be doing that. Thus they'll continue living a life of relative luxury in the world while the boys who have become men suffer from their experience every day of their lives. OR: It's not okay to do all that, but you won't go to hell for it anyway since Jesus died for our sins. That's such an obvious joke that I won't even go into it. Fools and hypocrites, ye of faith. Which be ye?

when you actually know something about Christianity, feel free to try again. According to Christianity, sexuality is reserved for a married couple. When married, fsck your brains out: who cares. When you're not married, keep your mind clean. Simple and effective. Sin is forgivable in God's eyes, but not necessarily in man's eyes. The level of which a man's status in a church dictates only dictates his pay, not his righteousness, holiness, or purity. They're fallible men too, ya know.

nik

i believe the bible says is not so many words that sex is for procreation not for recreation. i'm sure some of our well versed friends can find the passage if not i'll dig it up.

which explains why fundamentalists are so uptight and desperate to have as many children as possible

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

i believe the bible says is not so many words that sex is for procreation not for recreation. i'm sure some of our well versed friends can find the passage if not i'll dig it up.

Wrong: there's a spot in the New Testament that specifically states that a husband should not deprive his wife, or vice verse, except by mutual consent and for a time, to dedicate themselves to prayer and fasting, and then to come together again. Sex is part of God's design for a marriage relationship, and in that context, it's even worshipful.

 

[Pooteh]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: Ameesh

i believe the bible says is not so many words that sex is for procreation not for recreation. i'm sure some of our well versed friends can find the passage if not i'll dig it up.

Wrong: there's a spot in the New Testament that specifically states that a husband should not deprive his wife, or vice verse, except by mutual consent and for a time, to dedicate themselves to prayer and fasting, and then to come together again. Sex is part of God's design for a marriage relationship, and in that context, it's even worshipful.

someone dig up both quotes and we will see if theres a contradiction
you can't have it both ways ya know


and if you'll go to heck for oral and err putting it in the out hole i'm sure thats prohibited somewhere in there. so many people in heck

 

[Atrail]

Hotchic's qoute is accurate.