Poll: Is it a sin to watch pr0n?

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: ohtwell

So, what you are saying is that if a man has a sexual thought about someone before he is married that he will go to hell. Men do this all the time. A cute girl with a hot arse passes them by they think about sex with that person. Don't try to say that men don't do this because it is a natural reaction to a physically attractive woman.

Also, if sexuality is reserved to married couples is it wrong for a man to watch a video of him and his wife together. That is pr0n.


: ) Amanda

You have this down in an "if x, then y" format. The Bible sketches it out that everyone's sinned, doesn't measure up to the perfection of God, and so is going to die and go to hell. We're sinners from the beginning, looking at a girl's (or guy's) arse is just a manifestation of our nature. So, look at arse, go to hell, isn't exactly the way it works. Christianity says we, on our own, are messed up anyway. It also says that someone perfect lived, and undeservedly died, and voluntarily took our punishment for us, so we have the option not to pay for our arse-looking. The idea of a "Christian lifestyle" comes after that, instructing us to live cleanly in order to please the person that gave us such an incredibly perfect gift. There's no where in Christian doctrine that it says you have to live perfectly; in fact, it takes the exact opposite for granted.
And as for viewing husband&wife personal pr0n, that's within the bounds of maritial sexuality, not introducing outside things into the minds or relationship.

Ok! I see.

That's not the way that ffmcobalt stated it. He tried to say that if you weren't married that it was wrong to have sexual thoughts. I threw in the hell thing because that's seems to be the main concern for Christians. Thanks for clearing that up.


: ) Amanda

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Playboy is pornography.

nik

By definition it might be pornography, but in reality is just XX

 

[BurnItDwn]

if it doesnt hurt anyone, how can it be bad?

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
W.W.J.D.?
I think, since he died for our sins, that he would be right there kickin it with you and me.

Well, first of all, he wouldn't ask W.W.J.D.?

dfi

 

[dfi]

I had written a really long post, but then got really tired of hearing my own voice. So... this is what I will say:

The Aztecs used to think that the right thing to do was to tear out the heart of a man and throw it against a wall as a sacrifice to the gods. The Roman Catholic Church used to condemn anyone who challenged the belief that the earth is at the center of the universe. I used to hate onions, but now I kinda like it if it's grilled. So, here's my advice: do what you think is right, if you have the self control to do so.

Here's a random question: why do ppl believe the bible but not televangelists? If you're one of those ppl that believe in both, then, nevermind.

dfi

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: baffled2
Not that I go for this "sin" business but it seems to me the only "sin" involved is just how many of you will walk on by perfectly fine women in realtime simply because they don't look and act like those 2D images you spend so much time staring at.

I've never seen a good looking girl complain about men passing them up. =(

Personally, I think that most men have much more realistic expectations than women give us credit for. Yes, we ogle at the women in the magazines. So what? What's the point of having a fantasy if it's grounded in reality?

dfi

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Being condemned to hell has nothing to do with religious belief. Hell is a life as the small self. And yes, of course you are condemned, but not like you think. It's being condemned that sparks the interest in porn, not the other way round.

So i guess the fact that my dad deserted the family and never taught me anything about women menas nothing....



I will fight it to the end of my days

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: dfi

Originally posted by: baffled2
Not that I go for this "sin" business but it seems to me the only "sin" involved is just how many of you will walk on by perfectly fine women in realtime simply because they don't look and act like those 2D images you spend so much time staring at.

I've never seen a good looking girl complain about men passing them up. =(

Personally, I think that most men have much more realistic expectations than women give us credit for. Yes, we ogle at the women in the magazines. So what? What's the point of having a fantasy if it's grounded in reality?

dfi

yes and no.



Seeing all the smoke and mirros on the net gives one a different perspective in the real world .

I find myself more content with discovering the beauty that I don't immediately see.

 

[mattyrug]

So I'm gonna say, damn straight its a sin, and AMEN to that.

I mean, can you imagine if porn became so acceptable that talking about The Adventures of Ass Master #17 became casual dinner conversation?

You mean it's not acceptable to talk about it at the dinner table? :Q

 

[Pooteh]

Originally posted by: dfi

Originally posted by: baffled2
Not that I go for this "sin" business but it seems to me the only "sin" involved is just how many of you will walk on by perfectly fine women in realtime simply because they don't look and act like those 2D images you spend so much time staring at.

I've never seen a good looking girl complain about men passing them up. =(

Personally, I think that most men have much more realistic expectations than women give us credit for. Yes, we ogle at the women in the magazines. So what? What's the point of having a fantasy if it's grounded in reality?

dfi

because its ok to say that men are stupid

sure there are a few cases of addiction, but there are always a few cases of weakness no matter what. people even get addicted to the internet for gawds sake



funny how there is a double standard for smut novels. they take up an entire shelf or two at the local mega bookstore. they are freely displayed and have no age restrictions

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: ohtwell
So, what you are saying is that if a man has a sexual thought about someone before he is married that he will go to hell

Uh, no, you idiot. If a man has a sexual thought about someone other than his wife, according to the Christian faith, he's committing a sin. A Christian's sin is forgiven. A non-christian's sin is forgiven. You don't go to hell for sinning because everyone sins. You go to hell for not accepting the forgiveness that Christ extended to everyone from the cross.

You fscking idiots are bashing things that you don't have the first clues about.

nik

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
i believe the bible says is not so many words that sex is for procreation not for recreation. i'm sure some of our well versed friends can find the passage if not i'll dig it up.

Prove it.

nik

 

[Descartes]

You fscking idiots are bashing things that you don't have the first clues about.

What a great Christian example we have here, folks.

I find it rather ironic that: not only does one have to learn about God's word, lest thee be damned, but one has to learn it from such pontificating individuals.

Seems like a fundamental paradox to me; I'll pass.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Descartes

You fscking idiots are bashing things that you don't have the first clues about.

What a great Christian example we have here, folks. I find it rather ironic that: not only does one have to learn about God's word, lest thee be damned, but one has to learn it from such pontificating individuals. Seems like a fundamental paradox to me; I'll pass.

First of all, I don't ever proclaim to be perfect. Hell, everybody knows that everybody makes mistakes. It's not my job to teach you. If you present an idea that's wrong, I'll correct it. You use farce, I use farce. You use sarcasm, I'll use sarcasm. If you preset your ideal logically and maturely, guess what you'll get...

nik

 

[dquan97]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: yllus
I'm literally laughing my ass off here. Religion is such a bunch of bull. So the perfect follower of Christianity is to never masturbate or enjoy sexual thoughts until marriage, at which point sex is meant for procreation purposes only! No porn! No thiny-veiled girlie mags like Maxim! No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition! Change the channel immediately when sex scenes are on TV! ELSE THY IST HELLBOUND! But the holiest of followers, the very priests themselves...they can be forgiven for tiny things like using their position to sexually abuse little boys and at the most get transferred out of the region for it. Because it's not our place to judge them, it's God's place to be doing that. Thus they'll continue living a life of relative luxury in the world while the boys who have become men suffer from their experience every day of their lives. OR: It's not okay to do all that, but you won't go to hell for it anyway since Jesus died for our sins. That's such an obvious joke that I won't even go into it. Fools and hypocrites, ye of faith. Which be ye?

when you actually know something about Christianity, feel free to try again. According to Christianity, sexuality is reserved for a married couple. When married, fsck your brains out: who cares. When you're not married, keep your mind clean. Simple and effective. Sin is forgivable in God's eyes, but not necessarily in man's eyes. The level of which a man's status in a church dictates only dictates his pay, not his righteousness, holiness, or purity. They're fallible men too, ya know.

nik

i believe the bible says is not so many words that sex is for procreation not for recreation. i'm sure some of our well versed friends can find the passage if not i'll dig it up.

God doesnt reserve sex for procreation purposes only. I mean, look at the Songs of Solomon! He talks about sex throughout the WHOLE BOOK! If someone does think that God is talking about something else besides sex, they are sadly mistaken and having an unfulfilling sex life.

"In the Song of Solomon, the husband?s description of his bride?s body (Song of Solomon 4:1-15) and her description of his (Song of Solomon 5:10-16) reveals the joy of love and sexual intimacy that God extols for a married couple. While sexual intimacy between a couple is not to be observed by anyone outside of the relationship, God, the One who sees and knows all, must smile with delight when He sees two of His children enjoying the good gift of sex He has given to them." More...

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

While sexual intimacy between a couple is not to be observed by anyone outside of the relationship, God, the One who sees and knows all, must smile with delight when He sees two of His children enjoying the good gift of sex He has given to them." More...

There you have it, if God likes porn it must be OK.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

While sexual intimacy between a couple is not to be observed by anyone outside of the relationship, God, the One who sees and knows all, must smile with delight when He sees two of His children enjoying the good gift of sex He has given to them." More...

There you have it, if God likes porn it must be OK.

Actually, He doesn't.
nik

 

[Descartes]

First of all, I don't ever proclaim to be perfect. Hell, everybody knows that everybody makes mistakes. It's not my job to teach you. If you present an idea that's wrong, I'll correct it. You use farce, I use farce. You use sarcasm, I'll use sarcasm. If you preset your ideal logically and maturely, guess what you'll get...

Fair enough

 

[apaxfrenzy]

Jesus said, the Hebrew scriptures say a man commit's adultery if he sleeps with another man's wife or, another woman for that matter and vice versa but, then he says "I say unto you.." if you even look at a woman in a lustful manner, you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. I don't know how many if the ignorant people on here even care but, if anyone cares about people and themselves, they might let this inspire them. You can't trash or say anything about what Jesus came here for or the Christian life if you don't even know what it means which I'm sure, alot of you don't but, you don't care. So, what does happen when you die? Don't answer it on here, just give it some hard thought that is, if you can stay away from computer games and internet porn for at least, a small period of time. -David

 

[MazerRackham]

Don't love the prOn, but the prOn loves me

I don't see anything wrong with a little prOn now and then...

 

[stev0]

bah pr0n isnt a sin, DROP IT

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: apaxfrenzy
Jesus said, the Hebrew scriptures say a man commit's adultery if he sleeps with another man's wife or, another woman for that matter and vice versa but, then he says "I say unto you.." if you even look at a woman in a lustful manner, you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. I don't know how many if the ignorant people on here even care but, if anyone cares about people and themselves, they might let this inspire them. You can't trash or say anything about what Jesus came here for or the Christian life if you don't even know what it means which I'm sure, alot of you don't but, you don't care. So, what does happen when you die? Don't answer it on here, just give it some hard thought that is, if you can stay away from computer games and internet porn for at least, a small period of time. -David

That line has always bothered me. Commiting adultery is sinful, and so is wanting to but not giving into the temptation? We are always in control of our actions, but not always of our desires, and I really don't see how experiencing something we have no control over is sinful.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: apaxfrenzy Jesus said, the Hebrew scriptures say a man commit's adultery if he sleeps with another man's wife or, another woman for that matter and vice versa but, then he says "I say unto you.." if you even look at a woman in a lustful manner, you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. I don't know how many if the ignorant people on here even care but, if anyone cares about people and themselves, they might let this inspire them. You can't trash or say anything about what Jesus came here for or the Christian life if you don't even know what it means which I'm sure, alot of you don't but, you don't care. So, what does happen when you die? Don't answer it on here, just give it some hard thought that is, if you can stay away from computer games and internet porn for at least, a small period of time. -David

That line has always bothered me. Commiting adultery is sinful, and so is wanting to but not giving into the temptation? We are always in control of our actions, but not always of our desires, and I really don't see how experiencing something we have no control over is sinful.

Saying that you don't have control over your thoughts is like saying that you can't control the car that you're driving. You have control over your mind. Once you learn that you don't *have* to look, that you don't *have* to let your mind keep running away with the imagination, then you have in operation to some degree what some of us call "self control."

nik

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: apaxfrenzy Jesus said, the Hebrew scriptures say a man commit's adultery if he sleeps with another man's wife or, another woman for that matter and vice versa but, then he says "I say unto you.." if you even look at a woman in a lustful manner, you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. I don't know how many if the ignorant people on here even care but, if anyone cares about people and themselves, they might let this inspire them. You can't trash or say anything about what Jesus came here for or the Christian life if you don't even know what it means which I'm sure, alot of you don't but, you don't care. So, what does happen when you die? Don't answer it on here, just give it some hard thought that is, if you can stay away from computer games and internet porn for at least, a small period of time. -David

That line has always bothered me. Commiting adultery is sinful, and so is wanting to but not giving into the temptation? We are always in control of our actions, but not always of our desires, and I really don't see how experiencing something we have no control over is sinful.

Saying that you don't have control over your thoughts is like saying that you can't control the car that you're driving. You have control over your mind. Once you learn that you don't *have* to look, that you don't *have* to let your mind keep running away with the imagination, then you have in operation to some degree what some of us call "self control."

nik

If you want steak for dinner and all you have is mac & cheese, you can change your mind to actually *want* mac & cheese instead?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Sure, why not?