Poll: If the Trump n-word tape comes out will his solid 30% base abandon ship?

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If the Trump n-word tape is released what happens to his solid 30-35% base?

  • They stick with him because it doesn't matter to them

    Votes: 88 100.0%
  • That will finally be the camel that breaks the straw back of the base

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    88

SNC

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You are either intentionally LYING or just abysmally ignorant. Either way, I demand you retract your false statement.

The term LBJ used was "nigra." I don't even have to look it up. It was a now outdated term of semi-polite RESPECT for blacks, used in "polite" company instead of N*gger" you f*cking, bullshit-peddling ignoramus.
Wait, what?!? Are you saying that its OK if you refer to a black person as a ni*ger just song as you dont say the word ni*ger? That would be like saying you would be ok with Trump saying that he grabbed her by the vajayjay instead of pussy.
I get what your trying to say, but it reads as an excuse for for the way your team said or did something.

So taken in the context of :
These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days, and that’s a problem for us, since they’ve got something now they never had before: the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this — we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.


Do you still contend that he didn't say the actual word, and would you feel better if the tape that has Trump saying the N word is actually him saying nigra and not ni*ger? I wonder how many backflips you would do if he used the word niggardly (I'll give you time to look it up).
I just am having a hard time wondering why you would defend anyone saying ni*ger or nigra except because you just hate the poster and are willing to modify your stance so as to not agree with someone you disagree with, regardless of topic.

Stop making excuses for your sides racism.

P.S. Its so fucking stupid that the forum will not permit the use of the N word like we are some sort of 3rd grade class, but it's perfectly ok to call someone a fucking cock.
 
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fskimospy

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Wait, what?!? Are you saying that its OK if you refer to a black person as a ni*ger just song as you dont say the word ni*ger? That would be like saying you would be ok with Trump saying that he grabbed her by the vajayjay instead of pussy.
I get what your trying to say, but it reads as an excuse for for the way your team said or did something.

So taken in the context of :


Do you still contend that he didn't say the actual word, and would you feel better if the tape that has Trump saying the N word is actually him saying nigra and not ni*ger? I wonder how many backflips you would do if he used the word niggardly (I'll give you time to look it up).
I just am having a hard time wondering why you would defend anyone saying ni*ger or nigra except because you just hate the poster and are willing to modify your stance so as to not agree with someone you disagree with, regardless of topic.

Stop making excuses for your sides racism.

P.S. Its so fucking stupid that the forum will not permit the use of the N word like we are some sort of 3rd grade class, but it's perfectly ok to call someone a fucking cock.

You realize the word niggardly has literally zero to do with black people, right? It is in no way a racist term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_"niggardly"

People could use niggardly a hundred times a day and it wouldn’t be racist. It’s weird that you think otherwise.

Your argument seems to be that people shouldn’t use words that sound similar to racial slurs even if they are not racial slurs themselves. It’s hard to see how that makes sense.
 

SNC

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You realize the word niggardly has literally zero to do with black people, right? It is in no way a racist term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_"niggardly"

People could use niggardly a hundred times a day and it wouldn’t be racist. It’s weird that you think otherwise.

Your argument seems to be that people shouldn’t use words that sound similar to racial slurs even if they are not racial slurs themselves. It’s hard to see how that makes sense.
WOW, go back and re-read what I typed. Read it slowly and forget that you dont like me, come back if you have questions.
 

cytg111

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Please elaborate? Yes, not many black people voted for Trump but from what I've just looked up it suggests 8%.
It has been suggested that approval ratings amongst blacks is as high as 30%..If a tape existed with Trump blasting N word I have to believe that number goes down. I have to. Like I dont expect Trump to carry much in the Jewish community.
 

thraashman

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The people who support Trump will love him more if the N-word tape leaks because they're all racist pieces of shit themselves. It's impossible to still support Trump at this point and not be racist.
 

fskimospy

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It has been suggested that approval ratings amongst blacks is as high as 30%..If a tape existed with Trump blasting N word I have to believe that number goes down. I have to. Like I dont expect Trump to carry much in the Jewish community.

It has been suggested as that high by people engaging in motivated reasoning and/or propaganda efforts. They basically take outlier subsamples with huge margins of error and wait for that margin of error to swing in their favor.

A fairly recent poll by a pretty well rated pollster puts him at about 6% among African Americans.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000165-16fb-d25f-abef-37fba87d0000
 

SNC

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You’re right, I didn’t read it well. Sorry about that, my mistake!
Thanks for that. We need more civility especially with those of us who are in agreement. Even if it’s the only thing we agree on. I’m trying to be better at it, except for admitted trump supporters, they can suck a duck.
 

HomerJS

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It has been suggested that approval ratings amongst blacks is as high as 30%..If a tape existed with Trump blasting N word I have to believe that number goes down. I have to. Like I dont expect Trump to carry much in the Jewish community.
I need to see how those poll questions are worded.
 

Stokely

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Hahahahaha

Maybe six people, tops. If you are on Team Trump you know very well what you are getting. Either that, or you are two fucking stupid to understand what having something recorded even means.

That includes the rich or whacked-out black people that voted for Trump. They know what he thinks of them, they just don't care.
 

mikeymikec

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It has been suggested that approval ratings amongst blacks is as high as 30%..If a tape existed with Trump blasting N word I have to believe that number goes down. I have to. Like I dont expect Trump to carry much in the Jewish community.

I don't know, I could see some very fine logic being employed like "when he said the N-word, I assumed he was talking about that type of black person...".

24% of Jewish people voted for Trump apparently.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
 

fskimospy

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I don't know, I could see some very fine logic being employed like "when he said the N-word, I assumed he was talking about that type of black person...".

24% of Jewish people voted for Trump apparently.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/

That's not that surprising to me, somewhere north of 10% of American Jews are the orthodox or (mostly) ultra orthodox. I live near one of the largest ultra orthodox communities in the country and I know women who have had things thrown at them while walking down the street there because they were dressed immodestly so it's not exactly surprising if they vote Republican. I don't mean to imply that happens constantly or anything, but it gives you an idea of where they are politically and culturally.
 

cytg111

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It has been suggested as that high by people engaging in motivated reasoning and/or propaganda efforts. They basically take outlier subsamples with huge margins of error and wait for that margin of error to swing in their favor.

A fairly recent poll by a pretty well rated pollster puts him at about 6% among African Americans.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000165-16fb-d25f-abef-37fba87d0000

1. In my neck of the planet "Black" is the PC correct term, I am guessing its "African American" in the states? I will adjust accordingly.
2. 6%? That is great and sort of sad at the same time, smaller base to impact with a potential tape :(.
3. Thinking about it, I believe I have the 30% claim from a Speedy post here some time back... Should have known better of course..
 

cytg111

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HomerJS

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Wonder if I should have broken out the "stick with him" answer to...

Stick with him. I'm ok with racism.
Stick with him. My pride won't let me back out now.

My guess these two would be even split.
 

Younigue

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Kind of like a sinking ferry. The ship is sinking you have a life jacket but at what point to you abandon ship? If you are inside and the ship continues to sink you are soon dead. Some people got outside and saved themselves. Seems there is a large contingent who will go down with the ship. They will be permanently labeled as Trump.

At that point it is deserved.
MmmmHmmm!
 

Younigue

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The people who support Trump will love him more if the N-word tape leaks because they're all racist pieces of shit themselves. It's impossible to still support Trump at this point and not be racist.
Well, it'll be marginally interesting to see what the Trumpers who have adamantly denied being racist just because they support Trump, do. The ones who have been so righteous and felt so persecuted by people like me who absolutely believes without doubt that it's impossible to support Trump and not be racist.
 

Younigue

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Damnit.. that better? :)
Oh my gosh!

I thought the "Damnit" was you making it up to me. I just now noticed you changed your vote. LOL! So 1st... I was just teasing. 2nd... That's right Biatch puttin' my visual pleasure ahead of your reason feels so good and so right! :)
 

mikeymikec

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Penn Jillette says he knows Trump tapes exist, because 'I was in the room'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...-trump-tapes-exist-because-he-room/989527002/


article said:
But, no, he's not going to say specifically what he heard Trump say and when, because he's afraid of misquoting Trump and that "might be unfair" to the man elected president of the United States in 2016.

Wha....

"I was there! He said it! I don't want to say what he said though, because that would be unfair."
 
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1. In my neck of the planet "Black" is the PC correct term, I am guessing its "African American" in the states? I will adjust accordingly.
2. 6%? That is great and sort of sad at the same time, smaller base to impact with a potential tape :(.
3. Thinking about it, I believe I have the 30% claim from a Speedy post here some time back... Should have known better of course..

Yes - The PC crowd comprising of retards call black people African American. The new one gaining popularity with the PC crowd is "People of Color"... Which is funny because all they ever mean when they say that are black people... and "people of color" is awfully close to the previous "colored people" that was using to racial segregation times. Anyone with half a brain simply calls them Black.

Just because you're black says nothing about your heritage - In that regard then EVERYONE is African American.
 
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Wait, what?!? Are you saying that its OK if you refer to a black person as a ni*ger just song as you dont say the word ni*ger? That would be like saying you would be ok with Trump saying that he grabbed her by the vajayjay instead of pussy.
I get what your trying to say, but it reads as an excuse for for the way your team said or did something.

Some people are just stupid and need a reminder from George Carlin