Poll: How soon after Ukraine is invaded do righties start siding with Putin?

[blackangst1]

Tuckers biggest fanbase is on the outer most right fringes, agreed?

For the most part, from what I know, I would agree. As I said above, I dont watch him so no personal opinion. All I know, if thats true, he ppissed off his base by his quotes that I posted above.

There is plenty of these stories

Is Putin the alt-right’s BFF?

President Donald Trump isn’t the only American leader with a puzzling fondness for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime. Consider, for example, the chant that was caught on local t…

www.chicagotribune.com

You know when I post opinion pieces, I get shredded...right?

Tuckers walk back of that statement was a quarter better than Trumps walk back of Helsinki... would wouldnt blrrrrr....

24 hours later, Trump claims he misspoke in Helsinki, meant to say Russia did have reason to meddle in election

The president also said he backed the U.S. intelligence community's assessment that Moscow interfered in his 2016 race against Hillary Clinton.

www.nbcnews.com

Theyre completely different. Trump walked back his quote because he misspoke. A gaffe if you will. Tucker walked it back because he was being sarcastic. You should know that if you watched the clip where he said it.

Come on man. Its like right in front of you.

What is "it" exactly? Im not sure what you think the point is Im trying to make...

 

[pauldun170]

Americans - We shouldn't send soldiers to help Ukraine. We shouldn't sacrifice American lives. We are not the world police.
Also Americans - Minute China farts wrong in Taiwan's direction, we gonna send every man, woman and child to defend Taiwan.
Also Americans - If Iran Tweets something wrong about Israel or Saudi Arabia we are going to wipe out their entire fucking navy and airforce and piss on their grandmothers grave.
Also Americans - Ethiopia? Eritrea ? What the hell is an Eritrea? Is that some sort of allergy medicine? Let me google that.... (finds picture of black people). Stop being an asshole. That's someone else's problem.

 

[kt]

Doing the right thing is easy when there isn't any personal cost. I'd also question why the Europeans aren't expected to do the right thing?

Who said anything about Europeans aren't expected to help doing the right thing?

 

[dawp]

what do you mean after? their talking heads have already started

 

[Amol S.]

DAMN! I neglected to include a "days before" option.

Based on poll results @Amol S. @Ajay and @pcgeek11 severely underestimated the deplorable capabilities of the right wing base and their mouthpieces.

I picked the first one, because there was no "other" option. The republicans have recently gone with the idea that the US should not interfere in matters with other countries, when money is involved. They only get antsy when the leaves of US soldiers over seas is in danger, or the American people are in danger. Basically, the Republicans would never support Russia, but would support defending against the Ukraine being attacked. It in fact is the Republicans that are trying to pass bills in the senate that are asking for military force to be ready if Russia was to attack Ukraine.

 

[pcgeek11]

Tell me, and be specific, what would you consider as "supporting" the defense of Ukraine against Russia? Those two things do help, but ways to go from sending the Russian forces packing.

In my opinion our support is anything short of not putting US military boots on the ground. Supply weapons, sanction the hell out of Russia using any and all means to do so.

It is the European countries responsibility to take a leading roll and send the Russian Forces packing.

 

[pcgeek11]

Does being petty make you feel good?

How is what he stated petty?

 

[HomerJS]

The republicans have recently gone with the idea that the US should not interfere in matters with other countries, when money is involved.

Israel??

 

[kt]

In my opinion our support is anything short of not putting US military boots on the ground. Supply weapons, sanction the hell out of Russia using any and all means to do so.

It is the European countries responsibility to take a leading roll and send the Russian Forces packing.

I am sorry that you feel the right thing to do is to let your allies fight a war that they will probably lose and take heavy damage when the US military will more than likely tip the scale in their allies' favor. Look, I don't like the fact that the US military has to get involved but we have a better chance of preventing a war with a show of force now than later.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Well. I'm a rightie. The answer is no. I would never back Putin. I don't think the GOP will support Putin either. I do believe many think just as I do in my explanation above and quoted again here.

"I don't think it is Our responsibility to defend or even Lead the defense of the Ukraine against Putin. We should support Europe in the defense of the Ukraine and Europe. It is in their back yard. "

What we are currently doing ( as you described ) is fine in my opinion.

anything to make TRUMP happy!!

 

[kt]

How is what he stated petty?

He is more worried about being right, then doing the right thing. You guys are too narrow minded and selfish to think beyond yourselves.

 

[pcgeek11]

I am sorry that you feel the right thing to do is to let your allies fight a war that they will probably lose and take heavy damage when the US military will more than likely tip the scale in their allies' favor. Look, I don't like the fact that the US military has to get involved but we have a better chance of preventing a war with a show of force now than later.

I agree we should help if needed, when needed. Europe should lead in this, not the US.

What would you propose the US should do?

Ratio of US to European Troops, Cost, etc...

 

[pcgeek11]

anything to make TRUMP happy!!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

 

[pcgeek11]

He is more worried about being right, then doing the right thing. You guys are too narrow minded and selfish to think beyond yourselves.

That is one of the silliest statements I have ever read.

 

[pcgeek11]

Israel??

I agree we give them entirely too much aid.

 

[kt]

I agree we should help if needed, when needed. Europe should lead in this, not the US.

What would you propose the US should do?

Ratio of US to European Troops, Cost, etc...

I will not pretend to be a military strategy person, we have a building full of them at the Pentagon. I am sure they are more capable than me in determining what the appropriate amount of troops to send.

 

[kt]

That is one of the silliest statements I have ever read.

Yes, only silly to a selfish narrow minded person.

 

[pcgeek11]

I will not pretend to be a military strategy person, we have a building full of them at the Pentagon. I am sure they are more capable than me in determining what the appropriate amount of troops to send.

Well you seem to present yourself as one that knows all about what the US should and should not do militarily in this thread.

Do you or don't you?

Pick one.

 

[theeedude]

There won't be an invasion, so we'll never know.

 

[pcgeek11]

We all hope not.

It does seem odd to me that Russia went through all the expense and trouble to move that much equipment, men, ordnance along with all of the supply chain and support groups just to rattle a few sabres.

We shall see.

 

[cytg111]

So, it may be a second before I get to post on ATPN again

Irish fishermen plan to disrupt Russian naval war games: 'Our presence is our protest'

Rachel Maddow reports on suspicious activities by the Russian Navy in waters off Ireland that have added to concerns about Russia's planned naval war

www.msnbc.com

Irish fucking fishermen.. lol.

 

[HomerJS]

Another reason to defend Ukraine. We struck a deal to help defend their borders in exchange for giving up their nukes...
The Budapest Memorandum and U.S. Obligations (brookings.edu)

 

[theeedude]

We all hope not.

It does seem odd to me that Russia went through all the expense and trouble to move that much equipment, men, ordnance along with all of the supply chain and support groups just to rattle a few sabres.

We shall see.

It's not that much and all paid for by increased gas prices from "geopolitical risk." Also, given newfound western hostility to Russia and NATO partnering with Ukraine, they need more troops permanently deployed in the western regions anyways. So if Ukraine tries to retake Donbas by force, they can smack them down quickly.

 

[IronWing]

I am sorry that you feel the right thing to do is to let your allies fight a war that they will probably lose and take heavy damage when the US military will more than likely tip the scale in their allies' favor. Look, I don't like the fact that the US military has to get involved but we have a better chance of preventing a war with a show of force now than later.

The European NATO countries have known they have had a military capacity and readiness problem for decades and, apparently, have done little to nothing to fix the problem. NATO involvement in the Balkans was a shit show until the Americans intervened. The lack of training, discipline, and leadership within the European NATO forces was appalling. Russia isn't the Soviet Union (yet) and given European economic capacity, the Europeans should be able to curb stomp Putin even without US troops. Fielding a competent military doesn't require the obscene expenditures the US enjoys making but it does involve a long term commitment and some expenditures.

 

[soulcougher73]

Havent they been on Putin's side since Trump?