Poll: Did Islam have anything to do with 9/11?

[Red Dawn]

Iraq and Iran. Two nations in bad shape because of us. Alright.

Afghanistan?! You're talking before the Russians invaded? I'll have to look that up now. No one has mentioned what it was before then.

Your two case examples of our meddling do not explain the rest of the Islamic world. .

You mean like Indonesia with a population of around 230 million people, it is the world's fourth most populous country, and has the world's largest population of Muslims.

 

[Craig234]

50 years ago Christians were lynching Black people.

Not really. Lynching was more 100 years ago. 50 years ago we had segregation.

 

[Craig234]

I voted for "sole cause".

Remember--this is the same religion where adherents stone raped women to death for adultery. This is the same religion where writers are given death fatwas and where people work themselves up into a violent furor over political cartoons.

Islam, as it is interpreted and practiced today, is the lowest of the low when it comes to religion. It is the most primitive and fanatical.

Except you, since you are ignorant and attack others with lies like claiming it's standard practice across Islam to do things like 'stone raped women', as you spread hate.

You also didn't get the points in my previous comments on the cause of 9/11, that is was mostly an attack against the Muslims, to get them attacked by the US and radicalize them.

Sort of the way you are radicalized.

 

[jackschmittusa]

I'm really fond of how Christianity has advanced. Like killing and maiming children in Africa as witches, done in the name of Christianity. What's that you say? They are but a minority? Well yeah, but every time I see a church, it reminds me. How insensitive that they build them next to schools and playgrounds. Just knowing they are there makes me cringe. That is the correct attitude is it not?

 

[Infohawk]

I'm really fond of how Christianity has advanced. Like killing and maiming children in Africa as witches, done in the name of Christianity. What's that you say? They are but a minority? Well yeah, but every time I see a church, it reminds me. How insensitive that they build them next to schools and playgrounds. Just knowing they are there makes me cringe. That is the correct attitude is it not?

I'm fine with you feeling that way. Religion is dangerous. (Islam has been the most destructive in the past 50 years though.)

 

[Zorkorist]

If we are to have rules, lets make them Governmental rules, where one can face a jury of their peers.

Versus, some, anonymous, God.

-John

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I'm just a stickler for details, what's it to you?

You're only demanding details from one side while the other isn't providing the details asked of it previously.

That's what it is to me. Any more questions?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

But you're picking and choosing

Jesus came to complete the law: This is why I like bacon and shell fish so much.

Doesn't it have to do something with Muslim beliefs?

as implied often in the thread you are conflating all Muslims.

There is BRAND/TYPE of psuto-islam that was largely to blame. There are many KINDS of Islam, just as there are of Christianity and Judaism. Most followers of Islam would say that terrorists are not truly Islamic.

So the answer to your poll is simultaneously both "Islam was a significant cause of 9/11, but wasn't the only cause" and "Islam had absolutely nothing with 9/11"

or this post:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30320562&postcount=60

Or a religion, where the other side aren't devils.

-John

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitarian_Universalism

It's not a tiny percent of them. By definition, they are Muslim.

some footage of a FEW people means it is not a tiny percent... do you have any idea how large a tiny percent of 1.5 billion people is? If one Muslim happy about the US being attacked danced in front of you for one min burning a US flag, I could get you a Muslim to do that for every min of every day for a year and you would have only been exposed to .0005% of the population of those who believe in Islam;

A video on TV is not a representative sample.

In the same way, I wouldn't judge all Americans by the posts I see in PnN

and in this earl, and that one time you didn’t stick with that awesome professor chick, you have made a mistake.

You have no idea of how many Muslims agree with the terrorists,

PDF warning:
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_rpt.pdf

The answer is, even in some of the most back-assward of Sharia-ish countries, we only get 4-7% support

 

[Orignal Earl]

Funny, I was just looking at a similar poll on another popular tech site, that you have to pay to post in certain forums, like PnN or Soapbox.
The results are almost the exact opposite
Gives a guy a little more faith in America

edit- oops looks like this poll is evening out a little more

 

[Schadenfroh]

Not really. Lynching was more 100 years ago. 50 years ago we had segregation.

Not to mention, nearly all of the blacks that were lynched were likely Christian.

 

[Infohawk]

edit- oops looks like this poll is evening out a little more

Most people in this poll still think Islam was a factor in 9/11. Sorry you're disappointed that people don't base their analysis of causation on wishful thinking like you do.

How absurd that people would think that a superstitious belief system that claims to be the and only truth would somehow lead to violence. I mean it's not like there's a history of religion causing violence in general or anything.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Infohawk

Glad you agree that "superstitious belief systems" are dangerous. Should we compile the list now?

Doesn't really matter though. If we are to continue to allow something called religious freedom, we'll have to put up with them all. Shitcan all or none.

 

[piasabird]

The big question is whether what Islam has become is a terrorism hate group or a religion. People that hate and want to kill people not like them are in a hate group. In western civilization, for the most part we have come to an agreement that we allow all religous groups as long as they adhere to civil law. In some countries civil law is the religious law. They basically have State Sponsored terrorism.

 

[palehorse]

"Islam" itself was merely the theological/philosophical foundation upon which many Muslims participated in, or justified, the attacks on 9/11.... as well as tens of thousands of other attacks before and since. Just as it is with most formal religions, said foundation is ambiguous enough to allow for it to be twisted and turned into pure evil. The attacks are that evil incarnate.

Islam itself is not the issue, and not all Muslims are to blame.

Evil, on the other hand, must be utterly destroyed everywhere it rears its ugly head.

 

[Orignal Earl]

The big question is whether what Islam has become is a terrorism hate group or a religion. People that hate and want to kill people not like them are in a hate group. In western civilization, for the most part we have come to an agreement that we allow all religous groups as long as they adhere to civil law. In some countries civil law is the religious law. They basically have State Sponsored terrorism.

State-sponsored terrorism is a term used to describe terrorism sponsored by nation-states. As with terrorism, the precise definition, and the identification of particular examples, are subjects of heated political dispute. In general state-sponsored terrorism is associated with para-militaries. It is also frequently used in conjunction with state terrorism, which is (an accusation of) terrorism committed by governments.

# 1 By country

* 1.1 Afghanistan
* 1.2 France
* 1.3 India
* 1.4 Iran
* 1.5 Republic of Ireland
* 1.6 Libya
* 1.7 Pakistan
* 1.8 Soviet Union
* 1.9 United Kingdom
* 1.10 United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism