I am making $7,500 more per year, my benefits are WAY better, and my job now is twice as fulfilling as it was in 2008. What does that mean? Absolutely nothing - because 1 person out of 300,000,000 is not a very good sample size.
I am making $7,500 more per year, my benefits are WAY better, and my job now is twice as fulfilling as it was in 2008. What does that mean? Absolutely nothing - because 1 person out of 300,000,000 is not a very good sample size.
And he hasn't done shit to fix any of it. Unemploymnt was moving higher when Bush was leaving office, but it skyrocketed when Obama took over. The liberal tards on this forum want to blame everything on Bush when the facts are the economy only started tanking in his last year, so the libtards want to define his whole presidency based on one year. So why can't the other side do the same with Obama? Bush is 7 years of good economic times, and 1 bad. Obama 1 year of bad. No good years. Obama is going to be a lame duck president. He's more worried about accepting prizes and awards, than he is about running this country. If your nation is in record debt and has huge problems to deal with you don't pack up Air Force One and everything that goes along with it and fly off to Europe to accept an award.
You should say:
"I'm honored, but I have more important things to do here at home to help the people of the United States, also since we are facing a "climate challange" I do not want to burden the environment with a fleet of airplanes just so I can accept an award."
Why can't everyone just acknowledge that if the economy wants to suck, it's just going to suck. If it wants to do good, it's just going to do good.
Politicians can skew it a little bit up or down, but the economy is just going to do what it wants to do. It doesn't matter very much who was president or who controlled congress - shit is just going to happen in cycles.
Some conservatives are going to blame Obama for the current state of the economy, but I'm sure they won't give him a bit of credit if the economy happens to flourish by the end of his presidency. Some liberals are going to deflect any blame and claim that Obama can only do so much, but if/when the economy turns around, they will be the first in line to pat him on the back.
Politicians can skew it a little bit up or down, but the economy is just going to do what it wants to do. It doesn't matter very much who was president or who controlled congress - shit is just going to happen in cycles.
Some conservatives are going to blame Obama for the current state of the economy, but I'm sure they won't give him a bit of credit if the economy happens to flourish by the end of his presidency. Some liberals are going to deflect any blame and claim that Obama can only do so much, but if/when the economy turns around, they will be the first in line to pat him on the back.
You and the rest of the Republicans in here are out of your fucking minds.
It's unconscionable that you even attempt to put this on Obama.
Thank God historians will show what fucking assholes you and the rest are.
Yes, praise the lord thank you Messiah Obama
About fucking time the elitists in here get effected.
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Thump553
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Bush drove the bus over a cliff. People want that soaring feeling back. Bush's modus operandi was to grab the benefits now, defer the pain and cost until later-as evidenced by his idiotic tax cut plan and needless wrecking of the balanced budget.
Obama, to his credit, is taking on a lot of hard, long term problems. The sort of problems that are never going to produce instant gratification but with intelligent solutions will get this country back on track. The GOP, to their eternal discredit, has focused on headlining grabbing misrepresentations such as death panels and just say no to anything proposed by the White House, without ever offering any concrete counterproposals beyond mere sloganeering.
I personally sleep a lot better knowing that a person who thinks through problems is now in the White House. I also think he has accomplished a lot by blunting a lot of the otherwise likely damage from the current economic fiasco.
Obama, to his credit, is taking on a lot of hard, long term problems. The sort of problems that are never going to produce instant gratification but with intelligent solutions will get this country back on track. The GOP, to their eternal discredit, has focused on headlining grabbing misrepresentations such as death panels and just say no to anything proposed by the White House, without ever offering any concrete counterproposals beyond mere sloganeering.
I personally sleep a lot better knowing that a person who thinks through problems is now in the White House. I also think he has accomplished a lot by blunting a lot of the otherwise likely damage from the current economic fiasco.
jonks
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Your revisionism is hysterical. "Things only started tanking in Bush's last year." Spidey says things like that as jokes because he's a professional troll, so we laugh at him, but you're a true believer which is mildly disturbing. We lived on a bubble, under Bush, for years, that only popped in his last year. Saying Bush had 7 goods years of economic prosperity while ignoring the bomb about to go off is akin to saying a marriage was healthy right up until the end because the wife didn't know the husband was a serial killer. You can blame Obama for our current economy if you like, but it just makes you sound stupid. Obama will certainly own the economy by the end of his first term, but given the laundry list of shit he was handed your verdict is premature at best.
Obama hasn't solved the biggest economic depression in decades in his first year so you conclude he's a lame duck single term president. FDR was the most powerful president ever and he was reelected twice despite unemployment being twice as high as what it is now. I'm gonna see how things look in a year or two, you know, the time in which Obama and every economist alive said it was going to take before we saw turnaround.
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On what exactly, as far as I know, the only thing that went up was cigarette's. Also, how old are you?
That's the big one. Plus my state added more tobacco tax along with sales tax on alcohol all thanks to Obama's continued destruction of jobs and the economy. So directly and indirectly he's costing me a lot of money. Toss in the tax hikes currently he's talked about it's going to get a lot worse.
This is why I urge everybody to save and compare your tax returns from 2008, 2009 and again in 2010 (that's the big one, that's when everybody is going to get screwed) to see just how much he is going to cost you.
-edit- 38 years old. Me and my fiancee have even discussed how we're going to deal with Obama's marriage penalty and tossed around not getting married because of it. So not only is he destroying the economy he is destroying families as well.
someone call the whambulance for you. Lots of people had to take pay cuts, less benefits, no bonuses over the past few years. Look at the autoworkers, they had to take pay cuts, bunch of other benefits cuts, and alot of them still lost their jobs. I bet you had no problem in telling them they had to take pays cuts and decrease in benefits to help save the autocompaies. But when it comes to you, it don't take my money or my benefits takes someone elses.
Well you could give yourself a tax break by quitting smoking. That's like an extra $1000 a year. As an added bonus, you'll be around longer to make posts.
Just a thought, but don't think think most people would be pretty likely to experience large wealth growth from the age of 30-38 (or 29-37). It's a person's prime, so it makes sense.
Blaming Obama for a state's tax increases is quite an interesting way of viewing things. For one, the economy was in recession before January 2009. Second, there was nothing stopping your state legislatures from cutting taxes/spending, so perhaps your anger is a little misdirected.
Finally, why should money be an incentive for marriage? Government shouldn't be involved in it at all. (which would coincidentally, fix the gay marriage issue at the same time)
An employment stats chart showing that 2000-2008 wasn't terrific for employment (in fact, it was bad): http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf
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That's funny.... I guess 44% have have started to see how bad the current admin really is messing up the country.
umbrella39
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This 100%
Obama would have to do some major fucking up to be on the same plane as Bush.
umbrella39
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umbrella39
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umbrella39
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Bush was the one who fucked everything up. Obama is "trying" to clean some of it up but you can't clean the uncleanable.
kage69
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Oh, I know. I just wanted him to admit it. All he could come up with were a few (optional) sin taxes. :awe:
Well apparently he turned off Bush's hurricane machine as it's been a very quiet year for them, so I gotta give him some credit.
:awe:
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