Poll: 4 in 10 think there should be non-binary gender options on forms

[highland145]

I'm not going to click the link (because at first glance it looks like a moron bait site) but I'm assuming its for females who identify as men and this is specifically about situations where only gender specific bathrooms are available.

Yep. I didn't link the fox site because someone might have been triggered.

 

[highland145]

Um beg your pardon but from briefly looking through the website's Front Page, this looks like a Far Right propaganda piece instead of anything proper.

How about a lefty site?

Menstrual Equity | American Civil Liberties Union

Access to menstrual products is a dignity and equity issue, but every day people across the United States are unable to access the menstrual products they need. Local, state, and federal government policies cause or exacerbate inequitable access by imposing sales taxes on menstrual products...

www.aclu.org

Menstruation-Related Discrimination is Sex Discrimination — We Don’t Need to Erase Trans or Non-Binary People to Make That Point | ACLU

Our discussion of the tampon tax must include every person who menstruates.

www.aclu.org

 

[nakedfrog]

It's Ma'am

It's a mental health problem.

Sex Reassignment Doesn’t Work. Here Is the Evidence.

Sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially.

www.heritage.org

Snowflakes are gonna snowflake - but if we want scientific data than the question is male or female only. Not what you are feeling like today.

We spend much too time and tax dollars on the fringes of the population.

Conservative think tank disapproves, film at 11.

Speaking of science...

(includes sources)

 

[nakedfrog]

I'm not going to click the link (because at first glance it looks like a moron bait site) but I'm assuming its for females who identify as men and this is specifically about situations where only gender specific bathrooms are available.

Basically, yes.

Yep. I didn't link the fox site because someone might have been triggered.

That site is actually worse, but it does actually have a link to the ACLU page.

 

[gill77]

From the horse's mouth:

https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbt-righ...rans-or-non-binary-people-to-make-that-point/

 

[pauldun170]

In summary - Females menstruate. Don't tax products that menstruating people need get their menstruation on.

 

[nakedfrog]

In summary - Females menstruate. Don't tax products that menstruating people need get their menstruation on.

Well, there really IS a bullet point in there about them not being available in men's restrooms, and I get it, but naturally conservative media is having a field day with it. But on the other hand, it seems like a silly thing to be triggered by... of course, many of these manly men would be afraid to be seen buying such products for a woman in their life.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

You don't really have to answer this for the most part.

I've seen a lot of web forms that won't let you pass without certain field filled in.

If you are a company why waste money marketing tampons to humans with penises.

People (families, couples) share accounts.

Regardless of which box is checked on a form, there is no guarantee that person is the only one using the account.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

In light of how often things have been changing recently, would it be offensive to change the question to "biological" sex instead? So have 3 options:

1. Biological male
2. Biological female
3. Prefer not to say

Yeap, plenty will find reason to hate on it regardless of the truth.

It isn't about doing the right thing or what is truth - it's just a victim culture mentality mob where the sole goal is to be perceived as a victim.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

In summary - Females menstruate. Don't tax products that menstruating people need get their menstruation on.

The whole sales tax argument is a hilarious joke. Clothes are needed by society standards - and it is taxed in just about every state. No seriously, try going outside and walking around without clothes and tell me it isn't needed.

If you want to go with the whole sex route, condoms, jock straps, and other make necessities are also taxed. It's an argument that can only come from the mouth of someone that is mentally handicapped.

 

[nakedfrog]

The whole sales tax argument is a hilarious joke. Clothes are needed by society standards - and it is taxed in just about every state. No seriously, try going outside and walking around without clothes and tell me it isn't needed.

If you want to go with the whole sex route, condoms, jock straps, and other make necessities are also taxed. It's an argument that can only come from the mouth of someone that is mentally handicapped.

Menstruation is not an optional activity, the "male necessities" you list are for optional activities.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Even as a guy I always felt it was weird that there is a tampon tax, it's just such an odd and random thing.

 

[nakedfrog]

Even as a guy I always felt it was weird that there is a tampon tax, it's just such an odd and random thing.

Eh, everyone poops and I'm pretty sure toilet paper is taxed.

 

[gill77]

The whole sales tax argument is a hilarious joke. Clothes are needed by society standards - and it is taxed in just about every state. No seriously, try going outside and walking around without clothes and tell me it isn't needed.

If you want to go with the whole sex route, condoms, jock straps, and other make necessities are also taxed. It's an argument that can only come from the mouth of someone that is mentally handicapped.

So what does a tampon cost, a quarter? $0.25 X .0825 = 2 cents with rounding.

Time to take to the streets! Call your friend with the thousand dollar iphone from your thousand dollar iphone.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Eh, everyone poops and I'm pretty sure toilet paper is taxed.

That's just normal sales tax though, or is there actually a separate tax too? I never actually noticed now that you mention it.

 

[nakedfrog]

That's just normal sales tax though, or is there actually a separate tax too? I never actually noticed now that you mention it.

It's just regular sales tax.
Looks like you guys don't have it up there as of 2015 according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampon_tax

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Even as a guy I always felt it was weird that there is a tampon tax, it's just such an odd and random thing.

It's not a tampon tax. It's your equivalent of VAT on it.

Don't let people misconstrue shit. Like I said, we also have the same tax applied to clothing. I can't run around naked without getting a ticket for indecent exposure (and likely register as a sex offender).


The only items typically not taxed are food (and typically bad foods like soda and candy aren't exempt) and services - and it varies based on the jurisdictions.

 

[Red Squirrel]

It's just regular sales tax.
Looks like you guys don't have it up there as of 2015 according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampon_tax

Oh interesting I always figured it was a separate tax on top of the regular sales tax. Didn't even realize it was actually an exemption of regular tax that people wanted. Not that I've ever had to buy those.

 

[highland145]

It's just regular sales tax.
Looks like you guys don't have it up there as of 2015 according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampon_tax

It really was a way to force women into pregnancy so they wouldn't have to use them. The Kanukistan shadow government wants an army to invade the US in 22 years.

Sneaky bastards.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

That's just normal sales tax though, or is there actually a separate tax too? I never actually noticed now that you mention it.

And the tax on tampons is just normal sales tax as well. Don't let morons fool you.

 

[highland145]

Oh interesting I always figured it was a separate tax on top of the regular sales tax. Didn't even realize it was actually an exemption of regular tax that people wanted. Not that I've ever had to buy those.

You should menstruate more.

 

[nakedfrog]

It really was a way to force women into pregnancy so they wouldn't have to use them. The Kanukistan shadow government wants an army to invade the US in 22 years.

Sneaky bastards.

Who could blame them? We've got huuuuuuge tracts of land.

 

[zinfamous]

The whole sales tax argument is a hilarious joke. Clothes are needed by society standards - and it is taxed in just about every state. No seriously, try going outside and walking around without clothes and tell me it isn't needed.

If you want to go with the whole sex route, condoms, jock straps, and other make necessities are also taxed. It's an argument that can only come from the mouth of someone that is mentally handicapped.

let me know when menstruation becomes a choice.

lol--jockstraps are a "male necessity?" wtf.

 

[ultimatebob]

I think that they should just have Male, Female, and Other options for gender on a form. My hunch is that 98% of the population will choose the first 2 options, and half of the remaining 2% will be offended that they need to choose an Other option and perhaps type in their gender identity into a text field.

That said, it's only half of the remaining 2% that will be offended. You're never going to please everybody, and it's better than a giant dropdown list of 20 gender and identity options that confuses and annoys everybody.

 

[nutxo]

I think that they should just have Male, Female, and Other options for gender on a form. My hunch is that 98% of the population will choose the first 2 options, and half of the remaining 2% will be offended that they need to choose an Other option and perhaps type in their gender identity into a text field.

That said, it's only half of the remaining 2% that will be offended. You're never going to please everybody, and it's better than a giant dropdown list of 20 gender and identity options that confuses and annoys everybody.

Sounds reasonable.