Political repercussions for Jan Brewer

[nick1985]

"Arizona GOP Primary for Governor: Support for Brewer Soars"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2010_arizona_republican_primary_for_governor

Nearly a 30 point lead over closest Republican opponent. Interesting, to say the least


*update 5/21/10*

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ctions/arizona/election_2010_arizona_governor

Brewer now way ahead of her Democrat opponent.

 

[ichy]

Despite all the hubbub the silent majority of Americans want to see better enforcement of immigration laws.

 

[Danube]

Arizona’s immigration law continues to garner support nationally, according to Rasmussen Reports.

A new Rasmussen poll shows 55 percent of U.S. voters support the idea of allowing police to stop and check the status of suspected illegal immigrants. One out of three in the 1,000 person national survey oppose that notion.

Another 69 percent support the idea of requiring police to check identification and immigration papers when writing traffic tickets if they suspect the person is in the U.S. illegally. Twenty-three percent oppose that concept.

Polls: Arizona immigration law enjoys national support, Brewer popularity rises - Phoenix Business Journal
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[ichy]

The supporters of illegals are loud, but they are in the minority. Most Americans who actually get up and go to work in the morning don't have time to go to rallies/protests/whinefests.

 

[Linflas]

The supporters of illegals are loud, but they are in the minority. Most Americans who actually get up and go to work in the morning don't have time to go to rallies/protests/whinefests.

But they are in the majority in one of the most important places: Newsrooms.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Damn, isn't it a bit early in the morning to have a circle jerk guys?

 

[Lemon law]

Its certainly seems to be kiting Brewer support, but the odd thing is, the Arizona immigration law is no longer in the realm of politics and is already a ward of the
the courts. And even if the courts throw the law out on constitutional grounds, Brewer will
be unlikely to lose popularity over the deal.

But there is another longer term trend AZ and the GOP may have to worry about, and that is the fact the Brewers advocacy is likely to alienate Hispanic voters in AZ and many other states for decades. We can note that California used to be in play for the GOP until a GOP California governor pulled a similar stunt, and now the GOP does not stand a a ghost of a chance of carrying California for President ever since. As for the 1990 GOP California governor, he went from being touted as Presidential timber straight to GOP pariah very rapidly.

 

[Slew Foot]

Its certainly seems to be kiting Brewer support, but the odd thing is, the Arizona immigration law is no longer in the realm of politics and is already a ward of the
the courts. And even if the courts throw the law out on constitutional grounds, Brewer will
be unlikely to lose popularity over the deal.

But there is another longer term trend AZ and the GOP may have to worry about, and that is the fact the Brewers advocacy is likely to alienate Hispanic voters in AZ and many other states for decades. We can note that California used to be in play for the GOP until a GOP California governor pulled a similar stunt, and now the GOP does not stand a a ghost of a chance of carrying California for President ever since. As for the 1990 GOP California governor, he went from being touted as Presidential timber straight to GOP pariah very rapidly.

Awesome, the Dems care more about the votes of illegal immigrants than of American Citizens.

 

[Linflas]

Its certainly seems to be kiting Brewer support, but the odd thing is, the Arizona immigration law is no longer in the realm of politics and is already a ward of the
the courts. And even if the courts throw the law out on constitutional grounds, Brewer will
be unlikely to lose popularity over the deal.

But there is another longer term trend AZ and the GOP may have to worry about, and that is the fact the Brewers advocacy is likely to alienate Hispanic voters in AZ and many other states for decades. We can note that California used to be in play for the GOP until a GOP California governor pulled a similar stunt, and now the GOP does not stand a a ghost of a chance of carrying California for President ever since. As for the 1990 GOP California governor, he went from being touted as Presidential timber straight to GOP pariah very rapidly.

In a state with over 30% of the residents being of Hispanic origin yet showing 70% support for SB1070 there must be some support for it even among the legal Hispanics. Hispanics are not a monolithic unthinking voting block and Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, that make clear this is not aimed at people due to ethnicity but is all about rule of law may not suffer politically for supporting it. What anyone supporting this bill needs to make clear early and often is that it is all about legal versus illegal and not about where the illegal comes from or the pigmentation of their skin.

 

[palehorse]

The supporters of illegals are loud, but they are in the minority. Most Americans who actually get up and go to work in the morning don't have time to go to rallies/protests/whinefests.

But they are in the majority in two of the most important places: Newsrooms and White Houses.

fixed.

Obama and Co. sure do love them some illegals.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Its certainly seems to be kiting Brewer support, but the odd thing is, the Arizona immigration law is no longer in the realm of politics and is already a ward of the
the courts. And even if the courts throw the law out on constitutional grounds, Brewer will
be unlikely to lose popularity over the deal.

But there is another longer term trend AZ and the GOP may have to worry about, and that is the fact the Brewers advocacy is likely to alienate Hispanic voters in AZ and many other states for decades. We can note that California used to be in play for the GOP until a GOP California governor pulled a similar stunt, and now the GOP does not stand a a ghost of a chance of carrying California for President ever since. As for the 1990 GOP California governor, he went from being touted as Presidential timber straight to GOP pariah very rapidly.

Don't worry LL, if the courts strike it down they will claim the "Activist Judges" killed it, continue their hate, and label anyone who happens to disagree with them as "illegal lovers".

 

[Slew Foot]

edit: weird ass double post

 

[IGBT]

next on the horizon will be the anchor baby scam. just because a brat is born in the us is no reason to apply automatic citizenship.

 

[nick1985]

Don't worry LL, if the courts strike it down they will claim the "Activist Judges" killed it, continue their hate, and label anyone who happens to disagree with them as "illegal lovers".

Pipe dream

 

[JeepinEd]

Its certainly seems to be kiting Brewer support, but the odd thing is, the Arizona immigration law is no longer in the realm of politics and is already a ward of the
the courts. And even if the courts throw the law out on constitutional grounds, Brewer will
be unlikely to lose popularity over the deal.

But there is another longer term trend AZ and the GOP may have to worry about, and that is the fact the Brewers advocacy is likely to alienate Hispanic voters in AZ and many other states for decades. We can note that California used to be in play for the GOP until a GOP California governor pulled a similar stunt, and now the GOP does not stand a a ghost of a chance of carrying California for President ever since. As for the 1990 GOP California governor, he went from being touted as Presidential timber straight to GOP pariah very rapidly.

I'm of Hispanic origin and I can tell you that support for this law is very high among legal and naturalized Hispanics. The problem is a large portion of Hispanics can't make it known that they support these laws, or they will be ostracized from their communities. I am not welcomed into the homes of some of my mothers friends, because I don't hide my beliefs. It really pisses them off when I tell them that I don't consider myself Latino, Hispanic, etc. From the point I took the oath of citizenship, I became an American.
From my experience, the majority of Hispanics who are against this law have many relatives in the U.S. illegally. They don't really think the law is unconstitutional or draconian, they are just afraid of having their relatives deported so they attack it any way they can, and they attack anyone who supports it.

 

[nick1985]

I'm of Hispanic origin and I can tell you that support for this law is very high among legal and naturalized Hispanics. The problem is a large portion of Hispanics can't make it known that they support these laws, or they will be ostracized from their communities. I am not welcomed into the homes of some of my mothers friends, because I don't hide my beliefs. It really pisses them off when I tell them that I don't consider myself Latino, Hispanic, etc. From the point I took the oath of citizenship, I became an American.
From my experience, the majority of Hispanics who are against this law have many relatives in the U.S. illegally. They don't really think the law is unconstitutional or draconian, they are just afraid of having their relatives deported so they attack it any way they can.

:thumbsup:

 

[CrackRabbit]

Pipe dream

*shrug* You might think so, I disagree. Either way it is going to be tied up in the courts for a very long time.

 

[MotF Bane]

I'm of Hispanic origin and I can tell you that support for this law is very high among legal and naturalized Hispanics. The problem is a large portion of Hispanics can't make it known that they support these laws, or they will be ostracized from their communities. I am not welcomed into the homes of some of my mothers friends, because I don't hide my beliefs. It really pisses them off when I tell them that I don't consider myself Latino, Hispanic, etc. From the point I took the oath of citizenship, I became an American.
From my experience, the majority of Hispanics who are against this law have many relatives in the U.S. illegally. They don't really think the law is unconstitutional or draconian, they are just afraid of having their relatives deported so they attack it any way they can, and they attack anyone who supports it.

:awe:

 

[CPA]

I'm of Hispanic origin and I can tell you that support for this law is very high among legal and naturalized Hispanics. The problem is a large portion of Hispanics can't make it known that they support these laws, or they will be ostracized from their communities. I am not welcomed into the homes of some of my mothers friends, because I don't hide my beliefs. It really pisses them off when I tell them that I don't consider myself Latino, Hispanic, etc. From the point I took the oath of citizenship, I became an American.
From my experience, the majority of Hispanics who are against this law have many relatives in the U.S. illegally. They don't really think the law is unconstitutional or draconian, they are just afraid of having their relatives deported so they attack it any way they can, and they attack anyone who supports it.

:thumbsup:

 

[nick1985]

I'm of Hispanic origin and I can tell you that support for this law is very high among legal and naturalized Hispanics. The problem is a large portion of Hispanics can't make it known that they support these laws, or they will be ostracized from their communities. I am not welcomed into the homes of some of my mothers friends, because I don't hide my beliefs. It really pisses them off when I tell them that I don't consider myself Latino, Hispanic, etc. From the point I took the oath of citizenship, I became an American.
From my experience, the majority of Hispanics who are against this law have many relatives in the U.S. illegally. They don't really think the law is unconstitutional or draconian, they are just afraid of having their relatives deported so they attack it any way they can, and they attack anyone who supports it.

Whoops, I forgot to call you a racist, racist.

My apologies.

 

[Red Dawn]

Well through out history it's always been an effective ploy to single out a group as the boogeyman during times of hardship. The fact that this group is here illegally makes it even more popular. Brewer and her supporters played a smart hand.

 

[ichy]

Well through out history it's always been an effective ploy to single out a group as the boogeyman during times of hardship. The fact that this group is here illegally makes it even more popular. Brewer and her supporters played a smart hand.

God forbid that we single out people who're BREAKING THE LAW.

 

[Jimbo]

I'm of Hispanic origin and I can tell you that support for this law is very high among legal and naturalized Hispanics. The problem is a large portion of Hispanics can't make it known that they support these laws, or they will be ostracized from their communities. I am not welcomed into the homes of some of my mothers friends, because I don't hide my beliefs. It really pisses them off when I tell them that I don't consider myself Latino, Hispanic, etc. From the point I took the oath of citizenship, I became an American.

You are just like Hitler!

 

[FerrelGeek]

God forbid that we single out people who're BREAKING THE LAW.

Agreed. What part of 'illegal' do people just not get? My wife's family did it the legal way. My BIL's wife did it the legal way. My great grandfather did it the legal way. I couldn't give a rat's fettid backside what a person's race, nationality, ethnicity is. We have a legal way of establishing residence in this coutry. Use it or GTFO. As has been said on other threads, try being an illegal in many other countries in the world (Mexico has been the specific example of late) and see where that gets you. It's OK for them to enforce there laws, but not us???

 

[Red Dawn]

Agreed. What part of 'illegal' do people just not get? My wife's family did it the legal way. My BIL's wife did it the legal way. My great grandfather did it the legal way. I couldn't give a rat's fettid backside what a person's race, nationality, ethnicity is. We have a legal way of establishing residence in this coutry. Use it or GTFO. As has been said on other threads, try being an illegal in many other countries in the world (Mexico has been the specific example of late) and see where that gets you. It's OK for them to enforce there laws, but not us???

I have no qualms with what you are saying, I'm just stating that they make for a good boogeyman. Right now I'd say they are more reviled by the average White American than the Taliban. If the country was in as good of shape as it was in the 90's under Clinton they wouldn't be as big of a deal because everybody was fairly content so we needn't anybody to blame for our problems besides ourselves. I mean they were just as illegal back then weren't they?