It's amazing. The police have never shot at me... I wonder if that has to do with me never attacking them? Hmmm...
+10.... OP > troll.
It's amazing. The police have never shot at me... I wonder if that has to do with me never attacking them? Hmmm...
Video is taken from inside of a car w\ wet windows...
They taze him and he doesn't go down ( sweater too thick? ) and then he goes to swing whatever he has pipe/ sledge hammer at one of the cops and is shot 5 times. Then is shot 5 more times after he hits the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY5ioBvrYIg&feature=player_embedded#!
I'm going with unjustified use of force here and anxiously await all of the people posting w\ joy at the guy being killed.
I just think they should have used other non lethal methods before jumping straight to 10 gun shots. Shoot him in the leg or other non vital spots before killing him.
Hitlers buzzsaw... modernized? :awe:
find a safe spot to shoot someone... keep in mind you don't even have to hit a major artery or vein to nick it and you have to take organs into account.
even if your hand wasn't shaking, your adrenalin pumping and you had all the time in the world to aim you wouldn't be able to "shoot someone safely" in a way that would stop them.
For an amateur. They're supposed to be trained professionals.
Sorry, I don't know what "spot shooting" is. Is that where police shoot a guy 10 times before exhausting non fatal measures?
I was issued the MG3 (too) though (an updated version of the MG42 the germans used in WWII), it's chambered with 7.62x51.
The first burst of shots was debatable but I would probably give the cops the benefit of the doubt. The second burst was completely uncalled for.
The only clear intent to kill was from the police officer. swinging a pipe or something at somebody can be done with no expectation of killing them.
Not if these guys are trained to react properly... Can't blame anybody else if all they did at their shooting classes was eat krispy kremes and shoot the shit.
After watching the video a few times I don't think the first set of shots are debatable at all. I was sort of thinking the same thing about the 2nd set but in heat of the moment I can understand how it would happen and what he might have been thinking.
I'm going with unjustified use of force here and anxiously await all of the people posting w\ joy at the guy being killed.
I just think they should have used other non lethal methods before jumping straight to 10 gun shots. Shoot him in the leg or other non vital spots before killing him.
the man had no gun. this could have been handled without shooting him. tragic
I'm not saying the shooting was wrong, but why didnt they put the dog on him as soon as he walked out the door?
I'm not saying the shooting was wrong, but why didnt they put the dog on him as soon as he walked out the door?
they probably could have just subdued him, but why risk injury or possible death of the officers over this guy? prefer him not to die, don't have much issue with the course of action.
The guy threatened police officers that had guns drawn. What the fuck did he expect the outcome of that situation to be?
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes :whiste:
The main point here kids... pay attention... Over-reaction.
Even If we all agreed about them having the right to shoot him... 5 shots doesn't make sense. neither does 5 additional shots when he's clearly at that point fatally wounded as is.
The cop over reacted by shooting that many times. After getting shot once the guy wasn't attacker stopped. after that one, it stopped being about defense.
Oh hell. If true then that pretty much seals it up as a good shoot. The shooter likely saved his partners life. Pretty good shooting as well with only his strong hand, weak hand on puppy.
Remember to train one handed folks, strong and weak hand both. No limp wristing with lefty, mmm'kay?
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watched some more, you're exactly right, you can see the officer retreating, stumbling and reaching for his weapon. 100% good shoot, proper escalation of force and justifiable defense of another officer from deadly harm.
You always train to fire as many shots as possible, as quickly as possible. Notice the officer also was advancing as he was shooting. Once lethal force is needed (and we've already established the other officers life was in imminent danger), it is supposed to be lethal force. If they guy happens to live, lucky for him. If not, that is the expected outcome of LETHAL force.
By. The. Book.