Or I'm just better suited to that type of work than some others that work in the field.
Newsflash, people didn't always have camera phones (or even digital cameras). In fact, neither was common until the very end of my years (93-03ish). But I'll scan what I have.
http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i372/theprinceofwands/
There's a pic of me in the navy (which is why I went into security), pic of a memo pad from wackenhut, pic of my w2 from barton, an appreciation certificate, and my certification from IAHSS. I don't find anything right away from Stanley Smith, Metro Watch, CDS Metro, or any of the others, but I think I've proved my point. You can also contact washington, oregon, california, and virginia departments of licensing to obtain my security license history (I think it's public record).
Edit: SRY, had to delete the wackenhut/barton one...didn't do a good enough job blacking stuff out. Not that I care that much, but no reason to invite trouble. I'll do it better and load it again if it's REALLY necessary, but honestly if you don't believe me by this point then you're just being an ignorant troll.
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Why would I? It's ineffective and often abusive. When hands on is necessary restraint or compliance techniques are far more effective in most situations. If it's serious enough to be an all-out melee then it's serious enough to back off and go OC or possibly even sidearm.
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It's reasonable to say you should have an expectation not to get punched in the face (or any other use of physical force) by a uniformed officer if he has an less aggressive option. However, I think that it's also reasonable that people relying on that expectation don't constantly put it to the test whenever they encounter police - if you're given a lawful command by an officer you do it.
I knew a young woman that took a policeman's horse around the block without telling him while he was in a restaurant. The policeman came out and her friends were laughing. She came trotting up later. The policeman could have charged her with a felony - they ended up taking her down to the station, scaring her with what they could do, but she ended up having to do some cleaning at the police station without it ever going to court. There was not a malevolent intention.
My impression is the woman who was slapped and was arrested was not some malevolent woman deserving a felony. But she struck a nerve with the policeman that hit her.(Or maybe his nerve was struck before that.) The other policeman as I see it did not see her as a threat. As I view the video, when the policeman slugged her, she was being held back by the other policeman which also makes it unnecessary and excessive, but not illegal.
My impression is the woman who was slapped and was arrested was not some malevolent woman deserving a felony. But she struck a nerve with the policeman that hit her.(Or maybe his nerve was struck before that.) The other policeman as I see it did not see her as a threat. As I view the video, when the policeman slugged her, she was being held back by the other policeman which also makes it unnecessary and excessive, but not illegal.
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http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/police-internal-findings-of-948676.html
"An internal review has determined that an off-duty Atlanta police officer followed departmental rules in a scuffle with several women at a Buckhead IHOP, all of it captured on video by customers in the restaurant early on April 23.
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Davenport said no report had been released but one is expected. He did not know the timing of its release, however.
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He specifically challenged one of the supplemental arrest reports that said Freeman ran out of the restaurant and was hiding in the back seat of a car as it tried to leave the parking lot.
Freeman has a job application pending with the Atlanta Police Department, according to documents obtained by the AJC."
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/ihop-fight-video-reviewed-20110517-es
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Cristina Beamud, director of the Citizens Review Board, also watched home video of the incident. She told FOX 5 that while she feels that the officers involved acted within the rule of law, it’s something she would consider to be “lawful but awful.” She said she feels that most people hold the belief that it’s unnecessary to punch a woman in the face, and that her gender plays into it.
Beamud said her criticism is meant to be constructive, and that instead, the officer may have been able to find a way to diffuse the situation instead before it escalated.
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Brown said he was at the IHOP early that morning, coming straight from the Atlanta Hawks playoff game. His cousin shot video of the brawl. Brown says even before police arrived, the women had been screaming, yelling and refusing to leave for several minutes. "
"An internal review has determined that an off-duty Atlanta police officer followed departmental rules in a scuffle with several women at a Buckhead IHOP, all of it captured on video by customers in the restaurant early on April 23.
...
Davenport said no report had been released but one is expected. He did not know the timing of its release, however.
....
He specifically challenged one of the supplemental arrest reports that said Freeman ran out of the restaurant and was hiding in the back seat of a car as it tried to leave the parking lot.
Freeman has a job application pending with the Atlanta Police Department, according to documents obtained by the AJC."
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/ihop-fight-video-reviewed-20110517-es
"
...
Cristina Beamud, director of the Citizens Review Board, also watched home video of the incident. She told FOX 5 that while she feels that the officers involved acted within the rule of law, it’s something she would consider to be “lawful but awful.” She said she feels that most people hold the belief that it’s unnecessary to punch a woman in the face, and that her gender plays into it.
Beamud said her criticism is meant to be constructive, and that instead, the officer may have been able to find a way to diffuse the situation instead before it escalated.
...
Brown said he was at the IHOP early that morning, coming straight from the Atlanta Hawks playoff game. His cousin shot video of the brawl. Brown says even before police arrived, the women had been screaming, yelling and refusing to leave for several minutes. "
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The police report is out. The first link is slanted more favorably for the policeman than the second in my opinion.
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/atlanta-police-officer-cleared-956413.html?cxtype=rss_news
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/28009404/detail.html
2 quotes from second link:
Officer J. Vidals use of force was reasonable and necessary given the totality of the circumstances that were present during the incident, the internal affairs probe concluded.
However the report did state that Vidal violated the provisions of standard operating procedures concerning extra jobs by attempting to enforce the policies of a private enterprise through the use of his police power.
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/atlanta-police-officer-cleared-956413.html?cxtype=rss_news
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/28009404/detail.html
2 quotes from second link:
Officer J. Vidals use of force was reasonable and necessary given the totality of the circumstances that were present during the incident, the internal affairs probe concluded.
However the report did state that Vidal violated the provisions of standard operating procedures concerning extra jobs by attempting to enforce the policies of a private enterprise through the use of his police power.
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