PocketPC vs Palm benefits/drawbacks of either one? I need help deciding on a PDA.

[stonecold3169]

The only c++(thats what I'm using) compiler I've ever seen for palm is mobile studio, and it has horrible problems using overloads, manual pointers, and some of the other main features of actually using c++

 

[RoninRXN]

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<< This battery life thing is really pissing me off.

My Sony Clie S320 runs for about a week or two on one charge. NOT 2 MONTHS. EVEN PALM SAYS IT RUNS FOR 2 WEEKS MAX.
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Mr. Potatohead - Please address this now, especially before you post again about Palm's 2 MONTH battery life. >>



I doubt he will.

BTW, if Palm OS is so great...please tell me how to sync my S320 with Windows XP.

 

[straubs]

just the first response you had to my comment was

"here we go again :|" Not exactly a rosey comment.


This thread is a little out of hand. i'm out. I honest don't understand how some of you can't see the benefits of both. The palmos does have it's benefits. And ease-of-use ranks as a high priority for a lot of people. Some people can't even figure out how to get an mp3 on these things.

 

[potatosalad]

My PalmIIIxe lasts 2 months on a single set of batteries.

Don't be frontin' just cuz you're jealous.

 

[Joemonkey]

2 months if you leave it on all the time and don't recharge it and do stuff like play mp3s? or 2 months if you turn it off every night and just do stuff like check your schedule?


i'm not trying to be an ass or anything, i really want to know... 2 months is an awesome battery life for ANYTHING if it is kept on

 

[RoninRXN]

<< just the first response you had to my comment was

"here we go again :|" Not exactly a rosey comment.


This thread is a little out of hand. i'm out. I honest don't understand how some of you can't see the benefits of both. The palmos does have it's benefits. And ease-of-use ranks as a high priority for a lot of people. Some people can't even figure out how to get an mp3 on these things. >>



That was probably because that subject was already argued earlier.

 

[Czar]

<< My PalmIIIxe lasts 2 months on a single set of batteries. >>


no argument there, my friends palm (same as yours just from IBM) lasts about 1-2 months.



<< Don't be frontin' just cuz you're jealous. >>


BAHAHHAH, thats funny, jealous of what? the only thing that can be improved on my ipaq is the size of the memory, upgrade from 32 to 64 or even 128. To bad yours only has 8mb max.
Wouldnt trade my ipaq for any pda except for a better ipaq.

 

[RoninRXN]

<< My PalmIIIxe lasts 2 months on a single set of batteries.

Don't be frontin' just cuz you're jealous. >>



Yeah right. In constant use? I don't know about you but I use my Palm everyday and it runs out of power after 2 weeks or so.

 

[stonecold3169]

my IIIxe gets 2 months off the batteries when used as an organizor. I work at an officemax and we have little booklets available that tell how long batteries last in these devices and the such. And, as a side note, the IIIxe which potato has can't play MP3

 

[RoninRXN]

Hmmm...alright then. I'll give you 2 months of battery life since other people have confirmed it...although I still see absolutely no need for 2 months of battery life.

Alright...What about flash memory? Many Palms are not upgradable to new versions of Palm OS and still others have a fixed amount of memory while most PPC are expandable to over 256 megs of memory.

 

[Joemonkey]

wait, so when i get my 3635, i can actually upgrade the INTERNAL memory as well as have external CF??? man this is confusing, especially since i don't even have one yet (damn fedex!! hurry up!!)

 

[OS]

<< Hmmm...alright then. I'll give you 2 months of battery life since other people have confirmed it...although I still see absolutely no need for 2 months of battery life. >>



It's only two months if you buy alkalines and turn it on for a couple minutes everyday. If you actually make fair use reading avantgo and/or playing games, it's maybe two weeks tops. I get a week out of a freshly charged set of nimhs under normal usage. It's nowhere near two months though if you actually make extensive use of it. This is on my 3xe.

 

[Transition]

Summary of all previous Posts:

PotatoSalad: My Palm has a 2 month battery life.

Everyone else: I can't list all of what was said here - lets just say there was 200 + reasons that the iPaq is and always will be superior to the antiquated technology of Palm.

Message to Potato Salad:
Stop neffing.

 

[777php]

potatosalad - I won't resort to namecalling anymore....realized it was childish.

Lets be civil for a moment.

I acknowledge that both Palm and PPC have their advantages and disadvantages, however hardware-wise(besides battery-life) the PPC is superior. Most PPC have 32 MB of memory built in with the ability to add up to 1 to 5GBs of storage with a toshiba PCMCIA hard drive or IBM microdrive. I also acknowledge that using the aforementioned devices drains battery life even further.

Palms may have battery life on their side plus a larger variety of applications to choose from. Price is also another factor, with Palms for the most part being much cheaper than PPC counterparts.

Besides battery life however, anything a Palm can do a PPC can do and then some.

I can store up to 5 GB more mp3's, applications, games, documents, plus countless other things than a Palm device can.

While I am not attacking you, I am asking you to come up with something other than battery life that a Palm can do that a PPC cannot. Mind you that price is not a factor here, we are talking about the best platform period, not the best platform for a specific consumer.

 

[RoninRXN]

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<< Hmmm...alright then. I'll give you 2 months of battery life since other people have confirmed it...although I still see absolutely no need for 2 months of battery life. >>



It's only two months if you buy alkalines and turn it on for a couple minutes everyday. If you actually make fair use reading avantgo and/or playing games, it's maybe two weeks tops. I get a week out of a freshly charged set of nimhs under normal usage. It's nowhere near two months though if you actually make extensive use of it. This is on my 3xe. >>



That's what I thought since my daily routine is AvantGo and a bit of Dopewars and SimCity and I never get more than 2 weeks.

 

[ShadowHunter]

whats Avantgo anyway?

 

[NFS4]

<< wait, so when i get my 3635, i can actually upgrade the INTERNAL memory as well as have external CF??? man this is confusing, especially since i don't even have one yet (damn fedex!! hurry up!!) >>


Internal RAM/ROM is fixed.

i.e., 36xx iPAQ's come with 16MB Flash ROM and either 32MB or 64MB of RAM
37xx and 38xx iPAQ's come with 32MB Flash ROM and 64MB of RAM

You CAN upgrade the internal RAM to up to 128MB of RAM if you send it into one of those specialist memory upgrade places, but it voids your warranty.

But you can have up to 5GB of external storage for an iPAQ using a PC Card Sleeve and a 5GB PC Card (PCMCIA) hard drive.

 

[Joemonkey]

i bet the pc card sleeve and those mini drives cost more than the ipaq tho don't they?

my main concern, is how long will it be before the 3635 becomes obselete? as in they come out w/ pocketPC stuff that i won't be able to run even with a 256 CF card

like 6 months or 2 years or what?

 

[RoninRXN]

With the rate at which technology advances, it will be obsolete (in my opinion) in 6 months.

However, that doesn't mean you can keep using it. I see people with Palm Professionals or Palm III's all the time. My friend's dad still works on his Palm IIIx and his mom uses a first generation Visor.

Heh...he has an Ipaq 3635 himself though.

 

[NFS4]

<< i bet the pc card sleeve and those mini drives cost more than the ipaq tho don't they?

my main concern, is how long will it be before the 3635 becomes obselete? as in they come out w/ pocketPC stuff that i won't be able to run even with a 256 CF card

like 6 months or 2 years or what? >>


PC Card Sleeves were $78 on the hot deals forums a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?ProductID=71514

As for jumping through hoops to get deals on iPAQs (as mentioned by someone a few posts up). It's not that hard. Do a search for iPAQ in hot deals and you'll find plenty of good stuff.

 

[RoninRXN]

<< whats Avantgo anyway? >>



A "web-clipping" program. It basically takes chunks of web pages like news and downloads it to your Palm where you can read it.

 

[ShadowHunter]

<< A "web-clipping" program. It basically takes chunks of web pages like news and downloads it to your Palm where you can read it. >>



sweet. is it freee???

 

[777php]

FREE FREE FREE!!!!

I love sync'ing in the morning and being able to make movie plans according to the times that I have downloaded via avantgo.

 

[OS]

<< That's what I thought since my daily routine is AvantGo and a bit of Dopewars and SimCity and I never get more than 2 weeks. >>



Yeah, I've owned a m100, a 3xe and I gave my bro a visor as a gift and none of them get more than two weeks out of a pair of nimhs under normal usage.

It is possible to get two months out of a pair of batteries, but anyone who can consistently do so is better served by buying a cheaper memomaster or inexpensive organizer. It's certainly not a reasonable expectation for anyone who plans to consistently use their Palm.

Naturally, this brings up the question of how far can you push the battery life? I mean you could stick a fresh set of alkalines in, turn on the palm once a month and claim to get 3 years of battery life. Although certainly possible, it's definitely misleading. This whole "two month" battery life argument is basically a less exaggerated version of this example.

I can best sum up this battery life argument by saying this; I didn't have to change my usage patterns at all when I switched over from a palm to my ipaq.

 

[Ameesh]

<< My PalmIIIxe lasts 2 months on a single set of batteries.

Don't be frontin' just cuz you're jealous. >>





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