Please stop the stereotyping of those with religious views and attempting to use religiosity as a slur

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Again sorry, Sir RoboCAD. I'm not going to get drawn into your sanctimonious attempt to reframe the issue and duhvert the thread with irrelevant games. You can troll-spam all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you're trying to drown the thread in noise to avoid addressing my point. It's a pretty pathetic performance. IMO. Since you have nothing to contribute, the honorable course would be for you to move on. I don't think you're big enough to do the honorable thing, however.

Get well soon.

Actually the honorable thing would be for you to show where the "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." is in this forum so you don't continue to look like a fool punching a strawman. But alas, we all know you'd rather whine and "duhvert" instead of back up your assertions.

CsG

hmm we have 2 cases of people saying they could care less if the koran was stuffed in a toilet so far today, and one I think from yesterday saying islamics are worthless human waste..... do you read this forum or are you just looking for someplace to troll the word duhversion and test out all the neat smileys?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Crimson
Religious hatred is openly accepted, and I would even go so far as saying its almost endorsed by the powers that be here at Anandtech, because its simply NEVER stopped. I am not even a very religious person, but I support many of the same positions that they do, and I find it absolutely disgusting the amount of bigotry thats allowed on this forum toward religious people. If the same hatred were applied toward gays, lesbians, blacks, mexicans, etc, the people saying it would be banned in a heartbeat. I'm absolutely certain I could take a post made by some in these forums bashing religious folks, and simply replace the words 'fundamentalist' with 'gay', and I would be banned before my fingers left the keyboard.

Thats simply not right, and I think the OP is making a good point in saying that the generalizations and hatred needs to stop. Bigotry doesn't only apply to gays and minorities, it also applies to the majority, or a large group. Anandtech should not allow it toward ANY group.

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

As for myself, I have no problem with Christians, including fundamentalists, as long as they are sincere and as long as they keep their beliefs to themselves. I have major problems with the hypocrites and the zealots who are determined to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Unfortunately, these are the very "Christians" who tend to be most visible and vocal, power- and money-hungry crooks who use religion as a smoke screen to mask their malfeasance.

Just wanted to point out that neither Crimson, nor any of the others* who blasted Christian stereotyping has stepped forward to be equally critical of hateful stereotyping of Muslims. I think that speaks volumes.

(*The sole exception, of course, is Sir CAD who used the opportunity to launch another of his trademark duhversions.)

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
hmm we have 2 cases of people saying they could care less if the koran was stuffed in a toilet so far today, and one I think from yesterday saying islamics are worthless human waste..... do you read this forum or are you just looking for someplace to troll the word duhversion and test out all the neat smileys?

It's just another of Cad's games to disrupt any attempts at discussion. You can point out 100 examples, but he'll keep moving the goal posts The only way to win is not to play.


edit: typo

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
hmm we have 2 cases of people saying they could care less if the koran was stuffed in a toilet so far today, and one I think from yesterday saying islamics are worthless human waste..... do you read this forum or are you just looking for someplace to troll the word duhversion and test out all the neat smileys?

It's just another of Cad's games to disrupt any attempts at discussion. You can poiint out 100 examples, but he'll keep moving the goal posts The only way to win is not to play.

You have provided exactly NOTHING to back up your "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." premise so your silly hypocrisy charge holds no water. Now please own up to it like a man instead of trying to dance around it like you normally do.

<- Not holding breath...

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Crimson
Religious hatred is openly accepted, and I would even go so far as saying its almost endorsed by the powers that be here at Anandtech, because its simply NEVER stopped. I am not even a very religious person, but I support many of the same positions that they do, and I find it absolutely disgusting the amount of bigotry thats allowed on this forum toward religious people. If the same hatred were applied toward gays, lesbians, blacks, mexicans, etc, the people saying it would be banned in a heartbeat. I'm absolutely certain I could take a post made by some in these forums bashing religious folks, and simply replace the words 'fundamentalist' with 'gay', and I would be banned before my fingers left the keyboard.

Thats simply not right, and I think the OP is making a good point in saying that the generalizations and hatred needs to stop. Bigotry doesn't only apply to gays and minorities, it also applies to the majority, or a large group. Anandtech should not allow it toward ANY group.

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

As for myself, I have no problem with Christians, including fundamentalists, as long as they are sincere and as long as they keep their beliefs to themselves. I have major problems with the hypocrites and the zealots who are determined to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Unfortunately, these are the very "Christians" who tend to be most visible and vocal, power- and money-hungry crooks who use religion as a smoke screen to mask their malfeasance.

Just wanted to point out that neither Crimson, nor any of the others* who blasted Christian stereotyping has stepped forward to be equally critical of hateful stereotyping of Muslims. I think that speaks volumes.

(*The sole exception, of course, is Sir CAD who used the opportunity to launch another of his trademark duhversions.)

Again, bowfinger is stuffing straw into some cloths trying make himself a strawman.
If you would actually try paying attention to my post you'd understand your attempted claim of hypocrisy doesn't hold up. There isn't "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." here as you seem to want to claim. If you can show us where this "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." is on this forum then you may have a small point - but you have decided to ignore/duhvert from trying to back up your claim instead of addressing it.
*shrug* If it wasn't so typical, I'd be surprised.

CsG

 

[Bowfinger]

I think the Sir RoboCAD spambot is stuck in a loop.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I think the Sir RoboCAD spambot is stuck in a loop.

I know you are but what am I...
MOMMY!!!!!

:roll:

Grow up bowfinger and just pony up the evidence of the "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." already.

CsG

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Crimson
Religious hatred is openly accepted, and I would even go so far as saying its almost endorsed by the powers that be here at Anandtech, because its simply NEVER stopped. I am not even a very religious person, but I support many of the same positions that they do, and I find it absolutely disgusting the amount of bigotry thats allowed on this forum toward religious people. If the same hatred were applied toward gays, lesbians, blacks, mexicans, etc, the people saying it would be banned in a heartbeat. I'm absolutely certain I could take a post made by some in these forums bashing religious folks, and simply replace the words 'fundamentalist' with 'gay', and I would be banned before my fingers left the keyboard.

Thats simply not right, and I think the OP is making a good point in saying that the generalizations and hatred needs to stop. Bigotry doesn't only apply to gays and minorities, it also applies to the majority, or a large group. Anandtech should not allow it toward ANY group.

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

As for myself, I have no problem with Christians, including fundamentalists, as long as they are sincere and as long as they keep their beliefs to themselves. I have major problems with the hypocrites and the zealots who are determined to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Unfortunately, these are the very "Christians" who tend to be most visible and vocal, power- and money-hungry crooks who use religion as a smoke screen to mask their malfeasance.

Just wanted to point out that neither Crimson, nor any of the others* who blasted Christian stereotyping has stepped forward to be equally critical of hateful stereotyping of Muslims. I think that speaks volumes.

(*The sole exception, of course, is Sir CAD who used the opportunity to launch another of his trademark duhversions.)

Because we are talking about hatred toward religious people IN THIS FORUM.. OF which there is plenty against Christians, and very little against Muslims.. Care to answer CAD's request for proof otherwise?

 

[Crimson]

Didn't the Strawman, er, Scarecrow always sing 'If I only had a brain'? I think this may apply here.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Because we are talking about hatred toward religious people IN THIS FORUM.. OF which there is plenty against Christians, and very little against Muslims.. Care to answer CAD's request for proof otherwise?

Nope. I already said I won't play his insipid game. It is totally irrelevant.

Now, since this all started with a reply to you, I'd like to hear your response. Lord knows we've heard Cad's troll enough times. Here's what I said, before Cad started his duhversion:

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

So, will you denounce hateful stereotyping of Muslims just as vigorously as you denounce Christian stereotyping, or should we add your name to the list of blatant hypocrites?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Didn't the Strawman, er, Scarecrow always sing 'If I only had a brain'? I think this may apply here.

That's not very nice. I agree Cad appears to be a brainless Bush parrot, but that's just his cult mindset. I think there's a good chance he'll come out of it someday, and though he'll never admint it to the world, he will be ashamed of his anti-American attacks.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Crimson
Because we are talking about hatred toward religious people IN THIS FORUM.. OF which there is plenty against Christians, and very little against Muslims.. Care to answer CAD's request for proof otherwise?

Nope. I already said I won't play his insipid game. It is totally irrelevant.

Now, since this all started with a reply to you, I'd like to hear your response. Lord knows we've heard Cad's troll enough times.

Here's what I said, before Cad started his duhversion:

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

So, will you denounce hateful stereotyping of Muslims just as vigorously as you denounce Christian stereotyping, or should we add your name to the list of blatant hypocrites?

Your quest was to claim there is hypocrisy, but yet you don't back up your premise for claiming such. You have provided no evidence of "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." Until you provide such evidence your little hypocrisy charge goes no where.

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Didn't the Strawman, er, Scarecrow always sing 'If I only had a brain'? I think this may apply here.

Yeah, bow always has liked straw. Maybe now we know why?

CsG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Crimson
Because we are talking about hatred toward religious people IN THIS FORUM.. OF which there is plenty against Christians, and very little against Muslims.. Care to answer CAD's request for proof otherwise?

Nope. I already said I won't play his insipid game. It is totally irrelevant.

Now, since this all started with a reply to you, I'd like to hear your response. Lord knows we've heard Cad's troll enough times.

Here's what I said, before Cad started his duhversion:

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

So, will you denounce hateful stereotyping of Muslims just as vigorously as you denounce Christian stereotyping, or should we add your name to the list of blatant hypocrites?

Your quest was to claim there is hypocrisy, but yet you don't back up your premise for claiming such. You have provided no evidence of "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." Until you provide such evidence your little hypocrisy charge goes no where.

CsG

Your opinion has been duly dismissed ... again. Is "Crimson" one of your aliases, or do you think he's incompetent to speak for himself?

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Crimson
Because we are talking about hatred toward religious people IN THIS FORUM.. OF which there is plenty against Christians, and very little against Muslims.. Care to answer CAD's request for proof otherwise?

Nope. I already said I won't play his insipid game. It is totally irrelevant.

Now, since this all started with a reply to you, I'd like to hear your response. Lord knows we've heard Cad's troll enough times.

Here's what I said, before Cad started his duhversion:

There is certainly some truth in what you say, though I think you've grossly overstated it. More importantly, however, I suspect your "outrage" vanishes in a blink if I take your complaints and replace "Christianity" with "Islam". There are certainly many people here -- people on your end of the political spectrum -- who openly and entusiastically demonstrate religious hatred towards Muslims.

So, will you denounce hateful stereotyping of Muslims just as vigorously as you denounce Christian stereotyping, or should we add your name to the list of blatant hypocrites?

Your quest was to claim there is hypocrisy, but yet you don't back up your premise for claiming such. You have provided no evidence of "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." Until you provide such evidence your little hypocrisy charge goes no where.

CsG

Your opinion has been duly dismissed ... again. Is "Crimson" one of your aliases, or do you think he's incompetent to speak for himself?

Where's the opinion here? You implied Muslims were being hatefully stereotyped in this forum, yet have provided no proof. Thats a fact.

 

[Gaard]

Cad & Crimson - Do you agree or disagree with Bowfinger? (And CAD, everyone here knows your stuck on the word 'rampant', which, if I'm correct, is subjective) Have either of you seen cases of what Bow's speaking of here and are just playing like you haven't, or have you seriously not seen them. I believe a poster a little ways up provided a few examples CAD. Are you not accepting those for some reason; you haven't acknowledged it.

IOW, is this a case of playing "Anti Whatever Bowfinger Says" for some personal reason (intellectually dishonest), or do you honestly disagree?

That's it.. I'm out..

 

[Infohawk]

I have seen a lot of bizarre references to strawmen from the right. I don't think they actually understand what it means. A strawman isn't the person making an argument (calling them a strawman is essentially ad hominem). It's a symbol of fake argument someone argues against. Get a clue and learn some basic logic.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gaard
Cad & Crimson - Do you agree or disagree with Bowfinger? (And CAD, everyone here knows your stuck on the word 'rampant', which, if I'm correct, is subjective) Have either of you seen cases of what Bow's speaking of here and are just playing like you haven't, or have you seriously not seen them. I believe a poster a little ways up provided a few examples CAD. Are you not accepting those for some reason; you haven't acknowledged it.

IOW, is this a case of playing "Anti Whatever Bowfinger Says" for some personal reason (intellectually dishonest), or do you honestly disagree?

That's it.. I'm out..

No, I do not believe there is "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." here. Those who have posted in such a fashion have been quickly taken care of. Now I'm sure some poeple have a more "liberal" view what constitutes "rampant", "hateful", or whatnot but bowfinger hasn't even attempted to back up his premise. He instead duhverts from or ignores the challenge to his premise.

CsG

 

[Steeplerot]

Once again reality fails regardless of what you see with your own eyes, why am I not surprised.
Like you hero raygun said "Facts are a stupid thing."

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
Cad & Crimson - Do you agree or disagree with Bowfinger? (And CAD, everyone here knows your stuck on the word 'rampant', which, if I'm correct, is subjective) Have either of you seen cases of what Bow's speaking of here and are just playing like you haven't, or have you seriously not seen them. I believe a poster a little ways up provided a few examples CAD. Are you not accepting those for some reason; you haven't acknowledged it.

IOW, is this a case of playing "Anti Whatever Bowfinger Says" for some personal reason (intellectually dishonest), or do you honestly disagree?

That's it.. I'm out..

No, I do not believe there is "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." here. Those who have posted in such a fashion have been quickly taken care of. Now I'm sure some poeple have a more "liberal" view what constitutes "rampant", "hateful", or whatnot but bowfinger hasn't even attempted to back up his premise. He instead duhverts from or ignores the challenge to his premise.

CsG

My premise is NOT dependent on the volume of hateful Muslim stereotyping. It is a binary proposition. If there is no hateful Muslim stereotyping at all, then my premise is invalid. If, however, there is any hateful Muslim sterotyping at all, then my premise stands: do the people who denounce Christian stereotyping also denounce Muslim stereotyping?

You do not want to allow this discussion, of course, since it will expose the hypocrisy of many of your kin. You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it.

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
Cad & Crimson - Do you agree or disagree with Bowfinger? (And CAD, everyone here knows your stuck on the word 'rampant', which, if I'm correct, is subjective) Have either of you seen cases of what Bow's speaking of here and are just playing like you haven't, or have you seriously not seen them. I believe a poster a little ways up provided a few examples CAD. Are you not accepting those for some reason; you haven't acknowledged it.

IOW, is this a case of playing "Anti Whatever Bowfinger Says" for some personal reason (intellectually dishonest), or do you honestly disagree?

That's it.. I'm out..

No, I do not believe there is "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." here. Those who have posted in such a fashion have been quickly taken care of. Now I'm sure some poeple have a more "liberal" view what constitutes "rampant", "hateful", or whatnot but bowfinger hasn't even attempted to back up his premise. He instead duhverts from or ignores the challenge to his premise.

CsG

My premise is NOT dependent on the volume of hateful Muslim stereotyping. It is a binary proposition. If there is no hateful Muslim stereotyping at all, then my premise is invalid. If, however, there is any hateful Muslim sterotyping at all, then my premise stands: do the people who denounce Christian stereotyping also denounce Muslim stereotyping?

You do not want to allow this discussion, of course, since it will expose the hypocrisy of many of your kin. You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it.

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

The hell it isn't premised on that. You went off on they "hypocrisy" of those who condemn the rampant hate spew against Christians because they don't condemn the same when done against Muslims. Thus your premise assumes that the same rampant hate spew is present for them to condemn.

Also, more to the point - I think we've already discussed this so-called hypocrisy angle before. Just because someone condemns one but not another does not automatically equate to hypocrisy. Ofcourse in some cases it does but as usual you want to make broad claims that wilt after a close look...not to mention the fact that this one is based on a faulty premise.

I won't wait for you to pony up the evidence necessary to back up "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." because we already know from your history here that you won't accept that you are wrong(something you always try to twist back on me). But hey, I don't think I've ever accused you of being honest...

CsG

 

[zendari]

I wonder if all the Christian hatred in the world today would be "acceptable" if it was targeted towards gays.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
My premise is NOT dependent on the volume of hateful Muslim stereotyping. It is a binary proposition. If there is no hateful Muslim stereotyping at all, then my premise is invalid. If, however, there is any hateful Muslim sterotyping at all, then my premise stands: do the people who denounce Christian stereotyping also denounce Muslim stereotyping?

You do not want to allow this discussion, of course, since it will expose the hypocrisy of many of your kin. You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it.

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

The hell it isn't premised on that. You went off on they "hypocrisy" of those who condemn the rampant hate spew against Christians because they don't condemn the same when done against Muslims. Thus your premise assumes that the same rampant hate spew is present for them to condemn.

Also, more to the point - I think we've already discussed this so-called hypocrisy angle before. Just because someone condemns one but not another does not automatically equate to hypocrisy. Ofcourse in some cases it does but as usual you want to make broad claims that wilt after a close look...not to mention the fact that this one is based on a faulty premise.

I won't wait for you to pony up the evidence necessary to back up "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." because we already know from your history here that you won't accept that you are wrong(something you always try to twist back on me). But hey, I don't think I've ever accused you of being honest...

CsG

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
My premise is NOT dependent on the volume of hateful Muslim stereotyping. It is a binary proposition. If there is no hateful Muslim stereotyping at all, then my premise is invalid. If, however, there is any hateful Muslim sterotyping at all, then my premise stands: do the people who denounce Christian stereotyping also denounce Muslim stereotyping?

You do not want to allow this discussion, of course, since it will expose the hypocrisy of many of your kin. You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it.

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

The hell it isn't premised on that. You went off on they "hypocrisy" of those who condemn the rampant hate spew against Christians because they don't condemn the same when done against Muslims. Thus your premise assumes that the same rampant hate spew is present for them to condemn.

Also, more to the point - I think we've already discussed this so-called hypocrisy angle before. Just because someone condemns one but not another does not automatically equate to hypocrisy. Ofcourse in some cases it does but as usual you want to make broad claims that wilt after a close look...not to mention the fact that this one is based on a faulty premise.

I won't wait for you to pony up the evidence necessary to back up "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." because we already know from your history here that you won't accept that you are wrong(something you always try to twist back on me). But hey, I don't think I've ever accused you of being honest...

CsG

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

yes I have read that thread and have looked and steeplebot's post - however none of that had come from you.

Now would you care to back it up or are you going to rest your premise soley on steeplebot's work and one thread that has not risen to an outrageous level of hate-spew?
Please do share with us how YOU support your "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims."
It shouldn't be too hard...no?

CsG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
My premise is NOT dependent on the volume of hateful Muslim stereotyping. It is a binary proposition. If there is no hateful Muslim stereotyping at all, then my premise is invalid. If, however, there is any hateful Muslim sterotyping at all, then my premise stands: do the people who denounce Christian stereotyping also denounce Muslim stereotyping?

You do not want to allow this discussion, of course, since it will expose the hypocrisy of many of your kin. You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it.

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

The hell it isn't premised on that. You went off on they "hypocrisy" of those who condemn the rampant hate spew against Christians because they don't condemn the same when done against Muslims. Thus your premise assumes that the same rampant hate spew is present for them to condemn.

Also, more to the point - I think we've already discussed this so-called hypocrisy angle before. Just because someone condemns one but not another does not automatically equate to hypocrisy. Ofcourse in some cases it does but as usual you want to make broad claims that wilt after a close look...not to mention the fact that this one is based on a faulty premise.

I won't wait for you to pony up the evidence necessary to back up "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims." because we already know from your history here that you won't accept that you are wrong(something you always try to twist back on me). But hey, I don't think I've ever accused you of being honest...

CsG

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.

yes I have read that thread and have looked and steeplebot's post - however none of that had come from you.

Now would you care to back it up or are you going to rest your premise soley on steeplebot's work and one thread that has not risen to an outrageous level of hate-spew?
Please do share with us how YOU support your "rampant hateful stereotyping of Muslims."
It shouldn't be too hard...no?

CsG

My premise is NOT dependent on the volume of hateful Muslim stereotyping. It is a binary proposition. If there is no hateful Muslim stereotyping at all, then my premise is invalid. If, however, there is any hateful Muslim sterotyping at all, then my premise stands: do the people who denounce Christian stereotyping also denounce Muslim stereotyping?

You do not want to allow this discussion, of course, since it will expose the hypocrisy of many of your kin. You therefore rabidly cling to one subjective word, knowing you can keep moving the goal post -- and disrupting the thread -- no matter how much supporting evidence I provide. It's a fool's game, a game you love, and I won't play it.

If you're truly looking for examples, Steeplrot provided some (a fact Gaard pointed out), and there is at least one current thread with Islam in the title containing multiple examples. That you choose to ignore this reinforces the impression you are simply being an ass.