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Fenixgoon

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Your own words have illustrated the entire point of voter ID and why it is constitutional. Only citizens have the right to vote. Each you step up to the voting booth, have you provided proof of citizenship to determine your eligibility to vote?
Only citizens can register to vote. How many non-citizens have voted in elections?
 
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sao123

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Only citizens can register to vote. How many non-citizens have voted in elections?
Wrong.
2 States and 10 municipalities allow non-citizens to register and to vote in state and local elections.
The total number is undetermined, but the number is at least 500,000 each election
 
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Fenixgoon

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Wrong.
2 States and 10 municipalities allow non-citizens to register and to vote in state and local elections.
The total number is undetermined, but the number is at least 500,000 each election
What states? What are those policies? And 500k? You're going to have to provide serious evidence, considering every voter commission has found no anomalies
 
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sao123

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What states? What are those policies? And 500k? You're going to have to provide serious evidence, considering every voter commission has found no anomalies
California and Maryland.


I didnt say there were anomlies.
I said it cannot be truthfully said that ONLY Citizens may register to vote. Since non-citizen voting registration and permitted in some places, and eventually likely will be expanded...
Having successfully registered for voting is not proof of citizenship, nor is it proof of being eligible for casting a vote in a federal election. Thus identification must be provided directly before casting a ballot to ensure citizenship compliance.
 

fskimospy

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California and Maryland.


I didnt say there were anomlies.
I said it cannot be truthfully said that ONLY Citizens may register to vote. Since non-citizen voting registration and permitted in some places, and eventually likely will be expanded...
Having successfully registered for voting is not proof of citizenship, nor is it proof of being eligible for casting a vote in a federal election. Thus identification must be provided directly before casting a ballot to ensure citizenship compliance.
This is false - stop spreading misinformation.

The discussion is about state registration requirements, not registration by a local school board. (Which carries no weight outside of that school board. It’s like voting for class president) Voter registration with any state is 100% proof of citizenship, without exception. Therefore ID is not required.
 

tweaker2

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With men of God like this, is it any surprise church attendance is in freefall:

I think it's more than a mere coincidence that the Repub party and church memberships are both in decline. Given that conservative leaning politics have been so much more a part of the sermons being preached from the nation's pulpits, it seems to me the church's efforts at towing the corrupt conservative party line, including foolishly encouraging their support for Trump over the years as well as promoting his criminal attempts for being reelected has turned off many Christians to the point of losing their faith in their church leadership.

Methinks there are many Christians that remain faithful to God yet have rejected their churches agenda toward influencing their membership into supporting the Repub's treasonous efforts at holding on to power from a minority party status by violating any and all of the restraints they've encountered that's codified in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
 

sao123

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This is false - stop spreading misinformation.

The discussion is about state registration requirements, not registration by a local school board. (Which carries no weight outside of that school board. It’s like voting for class president) Voter registration with any state is 100% proof of citizenship, without exception. Therefore ID is not required.

You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
You are either registered to vote or you are not. you show up at your polling place where you are registered and cast your vote in all elections in which you qualify for.

It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
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California and Maryland.


I didnt say there were anomlies.
I said it cannot be truthfully said that ONLY Citizens may register to vote. Since non-citizen voting registration and permitted in some places, and eventually likely will be expanded...
Having successfully registered for voting is not proof of citizenship, nor is it proof of being eligible for casting a vote in a federal election. Thus identification must be provided directly before casting a ballot to ensure citizenship compliance.
Hahaha fucking school board elections? That's what you're citing? Get that weak shit out of here.

It's almost as if you're making a disingenuous argument...

"Non-citizens voting in local school board elections is totally the same as allowing non-citizens to vote in state and federal elections"

Part of the voter registration process is indicating your citizenship status. You'd be committing a crime if you lied on your form.

Unless you're saying we don't have the technology to determine the difference between two possible checked boxes..
 

sao123

Lifer
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Hahaha fucking school board elections? That's what you're citing? Get that weak shit out of here.

It's almost as if you're making a disingenuous argument...

"Non-citizens voting in local school board elections is totally the same as allowing non-citizens to vote in state and federal elections"

Part of the voter registration process is indicating your citizenship status. You'd be committing a crime if you lied on your form.

Unless you're saying we don't have the technology to determine the difference between two possible checked boxes..
See immediate comment preceding this one.

Its not disingenuous... 2 people show up simultaneously on the same day to the same place to vote on the same ballot, one is eligible for the entire slate of elections, 1 is eligible only for part of it, how do you distinguish them?
Its not as if these are completely separate election events or processes.

Yes, affirmatively, when an anonymous ballet is sent to counting, you dont have the ability to tell if the person who check marked the box was authorized to do so or not.
 
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Thump553

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Meghan54

Lifer
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You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
You are either registered to vote or you are not. you show up at your polling place where you are registered and cast your vote in all elections in which you qualify for.

It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
The bolded part isn't quite true. Non-citizen school board election is done separately from citizen voting, according to CA's website covering this.

On Election Day, all polling places and voting centers are open from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Use the Non-Citizen Voter Portal or check to the back of your Voter Information Booklet to locate your assigned polling place.

Notice the non-citizen portal mentioned? Non-citizens are routed through a different voting area and are only offered the school board electors to vote for, not the entire ballot as you are claiming incorrectly.

Do you ever research shit before you speak? Doesn't seem like it....
 

fskimospy

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You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
You are either registered to vote or you are not. you show up at your polling place where you are registered and cast your vote in all elections in which you qualify for.

It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
This is not even remotely true. For example in San Francisco the voter registration process and database for voting in school board elections is entirely separate from California state voter registration. The ballot for noncitizen voters is also different.

Again, stop spreading misinformation. State voter registration is proof of citizenship, without exception.
 

VW MAN

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You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
You are either registered to vote or you are not. you show up at your polling place where you are registered and cast your vote in all elections in which you qualify for.

It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
Does telling lies sexually excite you? Is being a liar the only way you can achieve sexual satisfaction?
 

Pohemi420

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Your own words have illustrated the entire point of voter ID and why it is constitutional.
No, they didn't.
I said it cannot be truthfully said that ONLY Citizens may register to vote. Since non-citizen voting registration and permitted in some places, and eventually likely will be expanded...
You are wrong/mistaken/lying, and...no, it won't.
You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
No, it isn't.
Hahaha fucking school board elections? That's what you're citing? Get that weak shit out of here.
It's almost as if you're making a disingenuous argument...
The bolded part isn't quite true. Non-citizen school board election is done separately from citizen voting, according to CA's website covering this.
Do you ever research shit before you speak? Doesn't seem like it....
It isn't even necessarily that he's uninformed...just that he's a lying sack of shit.
This is not even remotely true. For example in San Francisco the voter registration process and database for voting in school board elections is entirely separate from California state voter registration. The ballot for noncitizen voters is also different.
Again, stop spreading misinformation. State voter registration is proof of citizenship, without exception.
I'm not sure I've ever seen an honest statement or assertion from him.
I mean there are plenty of dishonest shits here, but I think @sao123 might compulsively do it. Everything is outright dishonest or at the very least, obviously disingenuous.

I wonder what it's like to be entirely unable/incapable of having genuine, honest, and factual discussions.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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See immediate comment preceding this one.

Its not disingenuous... 2 people show up simultaneously on the same day to the same place to vote on the same ballot, one is eligible for the entire slate of elections, 1 is eligible only for part of it, how do you distinguish them?
Its not as if these are completely separate election events or processes.

Yes, affirmatively, when an anonymous ballet is sent to counting, you dont have the ability to tell if the person who check marked the box was authorized to do so or not.
You can give different ballots based on registration status. It's not rocket surgery. This country put a man on the moon 50 years ago. If you listen to GOP, we are helpless and can't tie our own shoelaces.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
You are either registered to vote or you are not. you show up at your polling place where you are registered and cast your vote in all elections in which you qualify for.

It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
If you are qualified to vote they are all on the same piece of paper. There is information on the voter rolls sent to polling places that tell the poll workers what ballot to give you. I have frequently voted at a polling place that serves two precincts and the determine which ballot you receive based on the information in the voter rolls. We don't all get the same ballot.

You desperately need to get out in the world beyond your tiny town in bumfuck PA and gain some perspective.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
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You desperately need to get out in the world beyond your tiny town in bumfuck PA and gain some perspective.
He would except he can't drive because his DL is suspended for DUI and his sister/mother/wife is just too busy with life/kids to tote his drunk ass around. Besides, he gets all he needs to know from those long-hairs on utube.
 

zinfamous

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Your own words have illustrated the entire point of voter ID and why it is constitutional. Only citizens have the right to vote. Each you step up to the voting booth, have you provided proof of citizenship to determine your eligibility to vote?
you failed life, you poor soul.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day,
Well, that's also a lie. Most of the municipal elections that you are pissing yourself over here take place in the spring or summer, are super tiny, and almost never overlap with federal elections.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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See immediate comment preceding this one.

Its not disingenuous... 2 people show up simultaneously on the same day to the same place to vote on the same ballot, one is eligible for the entire slate of elections, 1 is eligible only for part of it, how do you distinguish them?
Its not as if these are completely separate election events or processes.

Yes, affirmatively, when an anonymous ballet is sent to counting, you dont have the ability to tell if the person who check marked the box was authorized to do so or not.
Yes, there are. You are fucking lying.

lol, have you ever voted?
 
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Paratus

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You do realize that all elections are held simultaneously? Federal elections, state elections, local schoolboard elections are all held on the same day, with the same piece of paper.
You are either registered to vote or you are not. you show up at your polling place where you are registered and cast your vote in all elections in which you qualify for.

It doesn't matter if you are only qualified to vote in a schoolboard election, its the same registration procedure and the same voter database.
Wasn’t there some commandment about lying?
My school board elections are May 1st. Guess you better get yourself to confessional so you don’t accidentally end up - well you know where.
 
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