Plastic Bags BANNED in New York State

[JSt0rm]

Op failed at life and can’t even figure out how to survive without disposable plastic bags.

 

[SMOGZINN]

If plastic bags are outlawed, only outlaws will have plastic bags.

I'll work on a 3-d printable bag design that can be freely downloaded so plastic bag aficionados can stick it to the man.

The environment is more damaged by car exhaust than plastic bags. Why is no one discussing car exhaust?

 

[Thebobo]

The environment is more damaged by car exhaust than plastic bags. Why is no one discussing car exhaust?

It's pointless really because its a mostly a national subject, except for California. Democrats raise emissions standards and republicans cut emissions standards that Obama had laid out.

 

[brycejones]

The environment is more damaged by car exhaust than plastic bags. Why is no one discussing car exhaust?

Because soot makes your lungs stronger.

 

[96Firebird]

I'll pay the 5 cents per bag, I re-use them for small garbage bags and picking up my dog's poop on our walks.

 

[Indus]

I'll pay the 5 cents per bag, I re-use them for small garbage bags and picking up my dog's poop on our walks.

LOL.. what kinda dog do you have?

I saw a Tibetan Mastiff do a HUGE poop once that was bigger than a beagle!

 

[trenchfoot]

State of Hawaii has a total ban on plastic bags going into effect year 2020.

Can't wait to NOT see plastic bags drifting across our roads and freeways or floating down to the ocean in our rivers and canals.

edit - Wondering whatever happened to the idea of using biodegradable plastics as an alternative.

 

[96Firebird]

Akita/GSD mix, he is about 95lbs but tall. His poops can be large or small, depending on how long he holds it. I feed him decent food without much filler, so they tend to be on the small side for his size.

I check my plastic bags for holes, and if they don't have holes I use them for straight poop duty. If they do have holes, I'll either use them for garbage bags or as a carrier for the biodegradable poop bags that I also use (which don't have handles so that's why they go in the plastic grocery bag).

It would be nice if they used biodegradable plastic bags if they're going to charge us...

My doggo:

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I like how he thinks that because he didn't throw it into the street or ocean, that it still didn't end up there, anyway. what a maroon.

This was kind of an assumption I have. That if I throw it in the trash, it generally reaches the landfill. Not that a landfill is a great place for plastic bags, but better than the ocean for sure.

Exceptions are: it blows out of the garbage truck, or it blows out of the landfill before the dirt gets pushed over it. Is that a large percentage of the problem? I was under the impression that the main part of the problem is assholes who don't make sure their bags actually end up in the trash.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I'll pay the 5 cents per bag, I re-use them for small garbage bags and picking up my dog's poop on our walks.

I generally pay the small fee, too. They make great bags for poopy diapers.

 

[Moonbeam]

.......................You know what we used to do in good ol' USSR? Watch TV less because we are wasting power?

I want to apologize for the rudeness of my fellow Americans here who are emotionally unable to handle their contempt for their contempt for what they see as the irrational, and self-centered egotism of your lament. I think the problem is that liberals these days are drowning in just those very reactions from conservatives across all aspects of life here in America. We have come to see people who think like you do as dangerous and have become as irrational in our contempt for people who think like you do in the same crazy way that you react to folk taking your plastic bags. We have had so much of this from Republicans and particularly now with the a pig criminal for President, that we have also simply lost it.

I am sorry that your bags have been taken from you and for the misery you suffered under the Soviet and or Russian system. When you live a long time in a deprived and or miserable state it is hard to feel generous or that any personal inconvenience for the sake of the planet is emotionally rewarding to be worth it.

I have lived a life of security, having never felt real fear or want. I feel a certain shame to have been so lucky which makes me both insensitive to the misery of others but also contemptuous of myself if I feel that way. Thus there has arisen in me a feeling that the best place I can be in is one where I try to express grattitude. I may not be very good at it, but I believe the more I can express it the better off I will be.

Thus for me, I look at the plastic bag issue as one where I can personally inconvenience myself for the sake of others and feel grattitude that I have that opportunity. I am also greatful that I live in a country where people like you are free to express their complaints.

 

[JSt0rm]

Akita/GSD mix, he is about 95lbs but tall. His poops can be large or small, depending on how long he holds it. I feed him decent food without much filler, so they tend to be on the small side for his size.

I check my plastic bags for holes, and if they don't have holes I use them for straight poop duty. If they do have holes, I'll either use them for garbage bags or as a carrier for the biodegradable poop bags that I also use (which don't have handles so that's why they go in the plastic grocery bag).

It would be nice if they used biodegradable plastic bags if they're going to charge us...

My doggo:

Pretty sure you can buy biodegrable shit bags for your dog

 

[Atreus21]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/nyregion/plastic-bag-ban-.html

So I guess my post will sound more of a rant, but there's just no way to sugar coat it. I used to think democrats were ok, but more and more I am starting to see that this is not the case.

Please, someone tell me this. How are people supposed to live without plastic bags? I come from Soviet Union and I know what it's like to live without many of the conveniences people have in United States. (Let me give you a hint... *It's not very convenient*)

You know what we used to do in good ol' USSR? We used to carry our garbage in metal/plastic buckets outside and throw it out, all by ourselves. That's right! Down the elevator we would travel, from whatever floor we lived on, then a 10 minute walk outside to the garbage containers, and then empty those buckets, walk all the way back, and up the elevator back home. Any weather, rain or snow. Oh, and then we had to wash said buckets, otherwise they would stink like crazy. In America, we have something called "FREE plastic bags" which we use to line our garbage cans, which makes it easy and convenient to toss our garbage down the garbage compactor available in every apartment building. That's what civilized people do.

Now the dems would have us, PAY for paper bags, or live like good Soviet citizens.

And then, the groceries... Myself and my comarades back in the early 90's used to carry our groceries in these "net baggies". Literally, it's a bag, made out of a net. If it tore, you had to patch it up, or buy a new one. The dems would have me go back to that here in US. Nice!

Look. I get it. Environmental impact and all that. But then, go after those who litter. Catch these people. Fine them like crazy for littering! Arrest them if you have to. Even jail them for all I care. But it's not the bags that's the problem. It's the people who use them. I NEVER, even once in my life threw out a bag in the street, and certainly not in the ocean or at the beach.

It seems like the longer Governor Cuomo is in power, the worse life gets for New Yorkers. There's just no end in sight to this madness. Whats next? Are we going to have to give up plastic bottles because it's not "environmentally friendly"? And then what? Watch TV less because we are wasting power?

Can't use paper bags?

 

[hal2kilo]

Problem solved.

Just put MAGA on em, and they'll suck'em up like there's no tomorrow.

 

[96Firebird]

Pretty sure you can buy biodegrable shit bags for your dog

That's what I said I use. But they don't have handles, so I use a plastic bag to carry them.

 

[repoman0]

Didn't read most of the OP because I could immediately tell it'd be a waste of time. Came here to point out that you have to be pretty damn pathetic at life to be unable to survive without plastic bags. They're banned where I live too and it caused no change whatsoever in my lifestyle. I bring the reusable ones in to the store and don't have bullshit plastic bags piling up never to be used in my cupboard.

WAHHHHH, I can't litter the earth with my pointless one time use garbage!!!!!! Fucking baby.

 

[zinfamous]

This was kind of an assumption I have. That if I throw it in the trash, it generally reaches the landfill. Not that a landfill is a great place for plastic bags, but better than the ocean for sure.

Exceptions are: it blows out of the garbage truck, or it blows out of the landfill before the dirt gets pushed over it. Is that a large percentage of the problem? I was under the impression that the main part of the problem is assholes who don't make sure their bags actually end up in the trash.

if it's my neighborhood, it all just ends up on the streets because our trash collectors are absolutely useless. But yeah, no matter where you put it, it doesn't go away. it will eventually end up in the ocean or water table somehow.

 

[Luna1968]

im alll for banning plastic shopping bags. not so much about banning plastic garbage bags.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Good idea. I still need some for cat poop and for the garbage bin in the bathroom, but we should not be using those plastic bags for groceries. Reusable shopping bags all the way.

Oh, and ban plastic straws while you're at it. Our planet will be better for it.

 

[pmv]

The environment is more damaged by car exhaust than plastic bags. Why is no one discussing car exhaust?

This is the bit that does slightly irk me about the plastic bag levy. Albeit only very, very slightly (I don't really care - to be clear I think the OP is out of their former-Soviet mind).

But those who drive to the shops are less likely to get stuck with paying the levy, because they can keep bags in their car and only have to carry things across the car park. As I'm almost always on foot, with a couple of miles to lug stuff home, it's more of an annoyance if I've forgotten the rucksack or have neglected to stuff a bag in a pocket beforehand. And then the car-drivers feel all virtuous and 'green' for not using bags when they are driving a car to the shops!

On the plus-side, I have finally found a justification for cargo pants. Having a preposterous numbers of pockets (as if you are on some secret military mission) turns out to be useful after all.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Problem solved.

I'll need a couple dozen of those. I haven't read the law so we go back to paper?

 

[Jaskalas]

I am sorry that your bags have been taken from you and for the misery you suffered under the Soviet and or Russian system. When you live a long time in a deprived and or miserable state it is hard to feel generous or that any personal inconvenience for the sake of the planet is emotionally rewarding to be worth it.

For the sake of the planet? I'm fairly confident that at least half our population has not heard of, or does not properly conceive of plastic pollution. If you tell them that plastic has reached their WATER supply, and has already contaminated their guts, I'm confident that a great number of people will look at you like you're crazy. For telling them something in a foreign language, difficult to hear, or to process.

We need to work on public awareness of the problem. And we need some studies for what plastic will do to our health. The consequential outcome of having synthetic material inside nearly every living creature on the planet. Like the DNC, ours is a messaging problem.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'll need a couple dozen of those. I haven't read the law so we go back to paper?

Those look like they have a plastic based material in them. No, what many nations / locales are banning are single use plastics. A good first step towards addressing the problem. So no, paper is not needed... yet.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Those look like they have a plastic based material in them. No, what many nations / locales are banning are single use plastics. A good first step towards addressing the problem. So no, paper is not needed... yet.

Actually, what is wrong with the paper bags? Is it concern over cutting down trees to make paper? What about hemp bags?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Actually, what is wrong with the paper bags? Is it concern over cutting down trees to make paper? What about hemp bags?

I interpreted the situation as trying to reduce single use bags, with an emphasis on plastic since it's the larger problem.

Hemp is a great alternative to regular paper.

If you haven't read it, check out "the emperor wears no clothes", it's a book about the many uses of hemp or MJ, aka both are cannabis.

Regardless of the recyclable used, it's gotta get recycled if possible, not sent to the landfill.