"Plan to Kill Everyone You Meet"

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Muricah

Tactical tooth brush

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Tactical baby carrier

I don't believe any of those, they're not listing their blood types ...

 

[Zorba]

Have you sought professional help with your struggle understanding self defense VS mass murder?

Going around thinking about how you would kill anyone you see in the name of "self defense" is how kids get shot for ringing the wrong door bell, or dad's get shot for throwing popcorn at a jerk in a movie theater.

People get guns, then start seeing everything as a threat, then get more guns/start carrying them, then see everyone as even more of a threat. Instead of them making their owners feel safer, they make their owners more afraid.

 

[Zorba]

Self defense is not equal to preparing to kill everyone you meet. And self defense doesn’t have to include ending life. You’re welcome to sit back, consider this, and reply again

This isn't right the NRA has taught for years, self defense means standing your ground and shooting to kill.

 

[Pohemi]

And certainly, anyone who is not armed has got to feel more vulnerable in America.

I'm not in a warzone. I don't view other human beings as "objects" that threaten me.

It shows an insane, irrational sense of fear at all times. Makes sense in a war zone, it shouldn't make any sense going to the grocery store.

Unless they live somewhere actually dangerous and high crime (such as south Chicago, SC LA, etc.), "feeling vulnerable" IMO is nothing but insecurity and/or fetishizing guns.

Yeah I think this isn't a healthy way to think, probably leads to people being paranoid and ready to snap.

Being anxious, stressed, and hypersensitive to your surroundings 24/7 isn't good for mental OR physical health.

Never once in my life have I left the house and thought "now what's my mass murder plan for today!"

That's a bit of exaggeration for the context here. I don't approve of or defend the messaging, but they're not telling people to plan mass murders, they're telling people to be prepared to meet "bad guys" at any/every turn.

Again, the messaging is shit, but it's not as bad as daily planning of mass shootings. C'mon now.

I think that's a myopic view. I went looking for the percentage of gun owners that actually shoot someone and couldn't find it. My hunch is that it's tiny, probably less than one tenth of a percent.

Could you clarify what you meant? Tiny percentage of...total deaths? Gun deaths? Or did you mean the % of the number of people that own guns?

I mean I'd argue that even thinking about how to stay safe all the time isn't good for your mental health but that's a different argument.

It'd cause a lot of undue anxiety, I would imagine.

 

[Greenman]

This isn't right the NRA has taught for years, self defense means standing your ground and shooting to kill.

Stand your ground is a foolish concept unless you're defending your home and family. Disengage is almost universally a better plan.

 

[Pohemi]

Stand your ground is a foolish concept unless you're defending your home and family. Disengage is almost universally a better plan.

Agreed.

But but but that wouldn't allow for shooting someone over a parking space because someone, "felt threatened".

That's the issue IMO, is that people now more than ever feel entitled and justified to shoot others for feeling slighted or insulted or angered. Not because their life is being threatened, but because fuck you I have a gun and I'll show you what it does.

 

[Zorba]

Agreed.

But but but that wouldn't allow for shooting someone over a parking space because someone, "felt threatened".

That's the issue IMO, is that people now more than ever feel entitled and justified to shoot others for feeling slighted or insulted or angered. Not because their life is being threatened, but because fuck you I have a gun and I'll show you what it does.

I was looking at the FBI stats the other day, about half of homicides with a gun happen because of a fight, not due to other crimes or gangs.

 

[Paratus]

Muricah


Tactical baby carrier

Which end towards enemy?

 

[Vic]

Once you read the boy scout motto it will all make sense.

You seem to have completely forgotten that there is a lot more to the boy scout motto than just be prepared.

 

[Vic]

Are you saying that being prepared and able to defend yourself is inherently evil?
Because you are taking the words used to describe those concepts... and running wildly pejorative with their meaning.

Society would be far better and safer if it were disarmed, but neither should you disparage the concept of safety at the expense of someone that is trying to harm you. What, heaven forbid you be able to survive an assailant? You will not do that unless you are prepared in some manner. It's a roughly worded way of saying "stay safe". But if you actually think through what surviving an attack means, it's the same as it is worded. Nothing sociopath about it.

Of course people have the right to defend themselves but at the same time self-defense can be sociopathic when it is pre-emptive.
And that is the real problem here: people who are acting "in self-defense" to threats that are far more perceived than real. People who escalate threats just so they can have an excuse to act "in self-defense."
That is absolutely sociopathic. And it dividing us and causing people to live in irrational fear of their countrymen.
You should stop defending it.

 

[gothuevos]

But I thought an armed society was a polite one?

 

[UNCjigga]

And we wonder why people are getting shot for ringing the wrong doorbell, parking in the wrong driveway, or opening the wrong car door.

 

[MrSquished]

The gun violence in this country is third world status. Thanks Republicans! Making America so great!

 

[Thump553]

It's absolutely inescapable to me how any human could think being in a perpetual warfare frame of mind would be a good thing. Sometimes I think we have been invaded by beings who claim to be Americans but whose ultimate goal is the downfall and collapse of the USA. Nothing else could explain the rampant stupidity. The only other rational situation I can think of is that this "guest" is following the Ann Coulter playbook where you say the most absurd and outrageous thing possible to get more notice=more bookings=more $$.

 

[Fenixgoon]

so....australian assassins?

 

[hal2kilo]

The point is not to be a victim, and how you go about that depends on where you live. I live in an open carry state, I've never once seen anyone armed in public. I've also never seen a homeless camp or a panhandeler. So being prepared is a little different for me. I don't have a big concern about my safety.

In your example you're accepting that your actions are in some cases dictated by your fear of being attacked. I know a few people who have rejected that thinking, who refuse to let criminals dictate their actions. I can't say I support their decision, but I do understand the thinking behind it. It's definitely a militant mindset, and my fear is that it may become a necessary mindset.

Yep, always be the winner. Sad.

 

[hal2kilo]

You seem to have completely forgotten that there is a lot more to the boy scout motto than just be prepared.

I was going to agree with you but, I had to check. Actually, the Motto is Be Prepared. There is also the Scout Oath, and Laws, ect. I get what you meant though.

Scout Oath or Promise​

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

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Note that the Scout Oath has traditionally been considered to have three promises. Those three promises are delineated by the semicolons in the Oath, which divide it into three clauses. The three promises of the Scout Oath are, therefore:

• Duty to God and country,
• Duty to other people, and
• Duty to self

DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY: Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God.

Men and women of the past worked to make America great, and many gave their lives for their country. By being a good family member and a good citizen, by working for your country's good and obeying its laws, you do your duty to your country. Obeying the Scout Law means living by its 12 points.

DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE: Many people need help. A cheery smile and a helping hand make life easier for others. By doing a Good Turn daily and helping when you're needed, you prove yourself a Scout and do your part to make this a better world.

DUTY TO SELF: Keeping yourself physically strong means taking care of your body. Eat the right foods and build your strength. Staying mentally awake means learn all you can, be curious, and ask questions. Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character.

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Scout Law​

A Scout is:

• Trustworthy,
• Loyal,
• Helpful,
• Friendly,
• Courteous,
• Kind,
• Obedient,
• Cheerful,
• Thrifty,
• Brave,
• Clean,
• and Reverent.

---

Scout Motto​

Be Prepared!

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Scout Slogan​

Do a Good Turn Daily!

---

The Outdoor Code​

As an American, I will do my best to -

• Be clean in my outdoor manners
• Be careful with fire
• Be considerate in the outdoors, and
• Be conservation minded.

 

[Moonbeam]

An interesting thread in my opinion. Everything written here, to my mind, represents opinions grounded on attitudes based on thought, as is mine here, an attempted elucidation of something which can't really be expressed in words but perhaps hinted at for consideration by others interested in such things.

I want to mention two points of view that characterize my thinking. I agree with @darksordsman17 in post 11 and 12 as well as what Greenman has said in post 25. Everything depends on where you are coming from when you think.

For example, my opinion is that in a life or death situation where I am confronted with death, I will not enter the situation prepared to kill or absent that sentiment. I will just shit in my pants and probably die as a victim, paralyzed with fear. Bang and I'll be gone killed by the paralysis of my own fear because I won't be able to rationally act because thought is fear. I will seek to solve the issue via thinking and thought will be out of reach. But what if I were a tiger. I would instantly kill or split. The reaction would be instantaneous as I imagine the case to be with a Zen Master Swordsman. Action without thought or fear made possible only be being here, awake in the now.

So the ideal way to react in life is to be alive and consciously aware, no division between self and reality. In thought life is until it isn't. To be consciously aware happens only in the present. There is no future or past. To be in the now is to ride the wave.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yea, pretty much the opposite of how conservatives behave

Re: post 67

 

[nakedfrog]

And we wonder why people are getting shot for ringing the wrong doorbell, parking in the wrong driveway, or opening the wrong car door.

Be prepared. There are so many people with guns in this country, odds are the person ringing your doorbell or pulling into your driveway could be armed. Best to just make a pre-emptive strike, because you know you're a good guy with a gun, so statistically speaking, that girl scout is probably a bad guy with a gun. Really, you're just doing society a service. You should probably even get a medal.

 

[Ajay]

Well maybe you shouldn't have been in their country killing them? But yes, let's pat yourself on the back for being a literal fucking psychopath. Actually not even psychopaths are that insane.

Seriously?? Do you know anything about the Vietnam war? A proxy fight for the Cold War superpowers. A grinder that crushed American servicemen and NVA alike. And we spat on those returning from battle, with scars visible and invisible, because of a choice our government made. How righteous the protesters were sitting in their high places while other men bled.

Psychopaths? Maybe some few, but look to what all men must do and suffer when they go to war - so that the princes of this world may have what treasure they covet.

 

[hal2kilo]

I refuse to accept this idea, even if it kills me. I just couldn't see the point of living.

 

[BoomerD]

And we wonder why people are getting shot for ringing the wrong doorbell, parking in the wrong driveway, or opening the wrong car door.

Those all seem like valid reasons to be on the alert. Not necessarily enough to kill...unless the incursion progresses.

 

[sportage]

Fox and mass shootings. Go-figure....
Fox now refuses to cover them. Turn over to Fox (please don't really) but turn over to Fox right after that weekend shooting and Fox is only talking about illegal immigrants or Hunters laptop. JUST IMAGINE the news media under republican presidential rule be it Trump or DeSantis? Imagine the media either being forced, or humiliated into ignoring mass shootings? All of them! "Can't upset the little kiddies. Must pass law. MUST PASS LAW." (MTGreene drags knuckles)

I really don't think people realized what was going on in Allen TX with those law enforcement officers AND the politicians like Abbot. They absolutely wanted to white-wash the entree incident. They did not want anyone to know anything other than some people were maybe dead. Were they shot? Won't say. Was it a gun? Won't say. Was it an assault weapon? Zipped lips. Won't say. Don't say. And never say anything to upset the NRA. Oh you know... anything like assault weapons kill people, or assault weapons are the weapon of choice in every mass shooting.
I just want to hear once of an assault by someone using silly-string. The republicans in TX would ban silly-string the very next day and remove it from store shelves. Plus, ban from being sold on Amazon.
You're never gonna hear any republican politician say after a silly string mass murder, "what we need is more silly-string".

Yeah, I make stupid because... THIS IS THE WORLD WE NOW LIVE IN, SO GET UISE TO IT.

 

[HomerJS]

The job of a solider is to kill people and break things. We like to pretend otherwise, but the bottom line doesn't change. The advice simply means "be prepared". I know that offends the delicate sensibility's of some people, but those folks are going to be offended by anything that doesn't directly affirm their world view.
Everything we have and hold dear exists because rough men with guns did the necessary killing.

Be prepared. What are the proper preparations for a delivery person especially if they are black if they accidently go to the wrong house (occurred 2x in a week last month)? What are the proper preparations for homeowners in case someone they don't know rings their doorbell.

According to the latest Fox News propaganda, the plan is "plan to kill everyone".

Since it just happened a few weeks ago 2 in a week what is your suggestion for any black person who has to knock on a door if either working or looking for their young siblings?

What is your suggestion? Should any person especially black who has to knock on a door carry a fully loaded semi-automatic rifle and be prepared to empty a 50 round clip into the door just in case they are shot at??