purbeast0
No Lifer
- Sep 13, 2001
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You all are fucking nuts if you think that "plan to kill everyone you meet" is a phrase to live by, no matter whatever the fucking context of it is.
Holy shit...
Holy shit...
Zorba
Lifer
- Oct 22, 1999
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It shows an insane, irrational sense of fear at all times. Makes sense in a war zone, it shouldn't make any sense going to the grocery store.
purbeast0
No Lifer
- Sep 13, 2001
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Imagine dropping your 1st grader off for their first day at a new school and telling them "plan to kill everyone you meet" and thinking that is a good thing. Like WTF??
MrSquished
Lifer
- Jan 14, 2013
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Look at the sociopaths on here defending a statement that ends with be prepared to kill anyone you meet.
It's psychotic, it's a sociopathic statement, It's just fucking nuts and a lot of conservative Americans agree with it which makes them fucking sickos.
Maybe if you had a couple centuries and tens of billions of dollars we could rehabilitate these people but we don't. So draw the lines, know your enemy
And boy green man has really been proving his smartness lately. I got to say
It's psychotic, it's a sociopathic statement, It's just fucking nuts and a lot of conservative Americans agree with it which makes them fucking sickos.
Maybe if you had a couple centuries and tens of billions of dollars we could rehabilitate these people but we don't. So draw the lines, know your enemy
And boy green man has really been proving his smartness lately. I got to say
VashHT
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- Feb 1, 2007
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Yeah I think this isn't a healthy way to think, probably leads to people being paranoid and ready to snap. I think this is the kind of attitude that leads to people being shot for knocking on the wrong door or pulling into the wrong driveway
Tsinni Dave
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Giving this more thought, if you look around your community and can't find people you are willing to die for you either are a problem or you live in a real shit hole of a community and should move.
BoomerD
No Lifer
- Feb 26, 2006
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I don't think there's anyone I would be willing to die for...outside of my wife. (and some days...)
ch33zw1z
Lifer
- Nov 4, 2004
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ch33zw1z
Lifer
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This line of reasoning basically dehumanizes anyone you meet. They stop becoming people and start becoming targets.
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- Feb 6, 2002
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That's my fear. Republicans are normalizing irresponsible gun ownership creating a more dangerous environment. People will react with the thought. "I need a gun to protect myself from the ever increasing gun violence."
My mother is a retired schoolteacher. Never in her career did she ever have to consider arming herself to teach. Because of irresponsible gun ownership supported by Republicans we have 6 year olds shooting their teachers and I'm sure some are considering arming themselves. This is the environment Republicans have created and promoted.
Chicken and egg, and beneficiaries are the gun industry and Republicans grip on power.
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and to do your job as a sniper or assassin you need to have that mindset. When you consider your targets as human beings it influences your effectiveness.
ch33zw1z
Lifer
- Nov 4, 2004
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Yes, but when I bump into a friend who introduces me to their friend, i should not be thinking: "might have to kill this person someday"
That is sociopath territory
WelshBloke
Lifer
- Jan 12, 2005
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Lol. Never once in my life have I left the house and thought "now what's my mass murder plan for today!"
If you really do that you need to go talk to a mental health professional!
If you really do that you need to go talk to a mental health professional!
The NRA/right-wing dream for society is to turn it into Harry Harrison's Deathworld. A world so dangerous where to survive (sometimes) is to have high-caliber weaponry that can instantly be deployed from your sleeves and other places. Think of all the money the NRA and gun makers could make in a society where everyone is scared to death they'll be attacked every minute! It's a nice reinforcing loop--the more guns in the hands of unstable emotional upright apes (aka humans), the more shootings, and the more shootings, the more other people might be compelled to buy guns for protection.
Funny how the right-wing bleating is that "guns aren't the problem, its mental illness". Really....so what makes America such a special needs kid then? If it's not more guns (which of course we have, by a long shot), then let me guess...is it less God? Nope, can't be, because we are more religious than most countries that aren't shitty theocracies (we aren't quite there yet...). Is it lack of socialized medicine? I'd at least consider that one....
I love that shitstain Abbot saying that Texas is working hard to combat this mental illness that afflicts us, after he nixed hundreds of millions from the budget that was partially for that purpose. So Texans, what exactly is Abbott doing to in his tireless jihad against mental illness? Which, by the way, sounds a lot like "socialism" if government is going to get involved in a program like that, ay? I'd be all for a heavy investment into prevention when it comes to mental illness, drug addiction and the like--but Abbott and the people that vote for him won't, I guarantee that.
Nothing will change because people want their toys. They'll say anything to keep them. They can claim its due to fear of meth addicts jumping out of bushes, but they'd sound just as fricking loony if they said it's due to Black Riders from Lord of the Rings. They are all hammers out looking for nails. At least we are doing the rest of the world a favor with our little experiment...they don't have to even try "guns for all" as we are showing how well it works.
Funny how the right-wing bleating is that "guns aren't the problem, its mental illness". Really....so what makes America such a special needs kid then? If it's not more guns (which of course we have, by a long shot), then let me guess...is it less God? Nope, can't be, because we are more religious than most countries that aren't shitty theocracies (we aren't quite there yet...). Is it lack of socialized medicine? I'd at least consider that one....
I love that shitstain Abbot saying that Texas is working hard to combat this mental illness that afflicts us, after he nixed hundreds of millions from the budget that was partially for that purpose. So Texans, what exactly is Abbott doing to in his tireless jihad against mental illness? Which, by the way, sounds a lot like "socialism" if government is going to get involved in a program like that, ay? I'd be all for a heavy investment into prevention when it comes to mental illness, drug addiction and the like--but Abbott and the people that vote for him won't, I guarantee that.
Nothing will change because people want their toys. They'll say anything to keep them. They can claim its due to fear of meth addicts jumping out of bushes, but they'd sound just as fricking loony if they said it's due to Black Riders from Lord of the Rings. They are all hammers out looking for nails. At least we are doing the rest of the world a favor with our little experiment...they don't have to even try "guns for all" as we are showing how well it works.
To wit; if you can't discern between the sheep and the wolves, you're not a sheepdog anymore, you're the wolf.
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Haha.
Abbott in 2022 cut funding for mental illness.
Abbott blamed Texas school shooting on lack of mental health resources. But he reportedly cut more than $200 million from the department that handles them.
Texas cut over $117 million from the state's Health and Human Services Commission in 2021 to a little more than $93 million in 2022.
www.businessinsider.com
I think that's a myopic view. I went looking for the percentage of gun owners that actually shoot someone and couldn't find it. My hunch is that it's tiny, probably less than one tenth of a percent.
I absolutely agree that there people that shouldn't be allowed to own a gun, but I don't see how any sort of testing could become law. The 2nd amendment stands.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Are you saying that being prepared and able to defend yourself is inherently evil?
Because you are taking the words used to describe those concepts... and running wildly pejorative with their meaning.
Society would be far better and safer if it were disarmed, but neither should you disparage the concept of safety at the expense of someone that is trying to harm you. What, heaven forbid you be able to survive an assailant? You will not do that unless you are prepared in some manner. It's a roughly worded way of saying "stay safe". But if you actually think through what surviving an attack means, it's the same as it is worded. Nothing sociopath about it.
sandorski
No Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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Didn't y'all Fight them over there so you wouldn't have to fight them "here"? Seems like some y'all just became them.
- Feb 6, 2002
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How is the schoolteacher preparing to defend herself from her six year old students? How is the kill to be executed (pardon the pun).
I'd say if your daily life requires you to be worried about "assailants" something has gone horribly wrong in life; either you are deranged or maybe you might want to move.... The chances of a random shooter being in the right place and time for you to shoot them--without hitting others, and without getting shot by the police as they mistake YOU for the random shooter--have got to be very low. I know people that conceal carry, and my wild-ass guess is that the chances of them whipping out their piece and gunning someone down (I'm in FL, so there's the ridiculous stand your ground bs) is WAY higher than them somehow stopping a bad guy. Again, when you see yourself as a hammer a lot of things start looking like nails and the mindset of those I know is pretty similar to that of George Zimmerman. Wanna be Punishers...
Of those people I know that conceal carry, I personally will not willingly be around them if I know they are carrying. I fear what they might do far more than what they might prevent.
Here's a litmus test: if you have to consider your "tactical loadout" when you are heading to the mall, might want to see whether your insurance covers mental visits. That's just insanity.
Of those people I know that conceal carry, I personally will not willingly be around them if I know they are carrying. I fear what they might do far more than what they might prevent.
Here's a litmus test: if you have to consider your "tactical loadout" when you are heading to the mall, might want to see whether your insurance covers mental visits. That's just insanity.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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You already raised that.
I already answered that.
Oh, you want to use that as commentary for what I just said about self defense.
Sorry, missed that connection for a moment.
Suppose I should reply by adding "in general". There are obviously exceptions, and damn if some of them are not egregious. Such as a teacher and little kids. There is no real preparation you can do for the surprise bullet. Which is why I fully endorse disarming society at large. But I will not call self defense evil.
ch33zw1z
Lifer
- Nov 4, 2004
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Self defense is not equal to preparing to kill everyone you meet. And self defense doesn’t have to include ending life. You’re welcome to sit back, consider this, and reply again
WelshBloke
Lifer
- Jan 12, 2005
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It's weird how the reasonable "how will I keep myself safe in this potentially unsafe situation" has morphed into the unreasonable "do I have a plan to kill everyone in any situation".
I mean I'd argue that even thinking about how to stay safe all the time isn't good for your mental health but that's a different argument.
pauldun170
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