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No Lifer
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making money off other peoples work is the lowest. thats way way way beyond stealing bread to feed your family. rat the bastard out. he needs to learn his lessons before he gets any power.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Why do you feel you owe Microsoft a favor? What have they ever done to you besides limit your desktop OS choices, charge you more and more per year for software updating, and force you to ask their permission to install their software after you pay for it? You are a dumb corporate tool - something MS would love to see all their customers be.

Perhaps if they were ripping off a company I genuinely like because it genuinely likes the customer, I would feel obligated to report the pirate. However, reporting him requires you to go out of your way for Microsoft when Microsoft has never gone out of their way for you.

Fvck Microsoft. I'll never get off my ass to help them unless they show some intent to help me first. But, every time I buy their software, I feel I'm being forcibly ripped off. And, every time I buy their software, I usually find the pirated copy to be easier to install (no calling) and easier to work with (can easily make copies).

Why do you feel that you are special and can pick and choose what laws you have to obey and which you can break? Ok, then. I guess anyone can do that, right...I don't think it's wrong to kill someone who cut me off in traffic. I guess that makes it ok for me to kill them, right?

moron.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: funboy6942
Ufortunatly if you turn him in 3 other people will take his place in selling software. Our how system is bassed on you breaking the lay. Take the war on drugs for instance. If no one did drugs there wouldn't be a war on drugs which means the people that are hoping thoes few people will be out of a job.

The officials always complain that there is a war on something but the truth be told if there were not people selling stuff like that, doing drugs, speeding, not wearing their seat belts, not having insurance, companies not running with a license, and so on and so on our ways of life would fall. They expect people to break the law and do what they are not supposed to to keep the ball running. If the wanted to I'm sure they have a huge list somewhere on EVERYONE and what they have done. they just break it up to who can they nab thats going to be more profitable. Sure they pick on the little guy at times but jsut to set a point and have others take his place to keep the ball running.

So sure you can rat him out becuase your friend cut you off from mooching free software off him or what ever you would want to rat out a "friend" for, but you narking on him isnt going to make the problem go away. Someone will most definatly take his place and the government needs that to keep going on and on like that. It all comes down to people making money and the government making their money off taxes and the people breaking the law.

What makes you think I'm trying to stop piracy altogether? All you people think you're so smart and put words into my mouth. This has NOTHING to do with stopping piracy as a whole. It's about doing my part to stop something that I don't think is right (selling pirated stuff).
 

dnuggett

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Oh no, he's stealing from the richest person on earth

HUH? He is stealing from each and every shareholder.... where do you people come up with this stuff?
 

FFactory0x

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: FFactory0x
don't be an ass. Let him get busted on his own. I cant stand people who dont mind there own business. They then wonder why they get there arse beat for ratting someone out. Seriously, what do you have to gain from this????
Not like you've ever done anything illegal. How would you like it if i called the cops on you for literering, dropping a piece of paper in the street or for jaywalking??? How about for wearing your seat belt. I mean your breaking the law doing one of those things

1. Get busted on his own. And, how does that happen? A fairy comes down and whispers to the authorities that he's doing this?

2. I don't litter. People who litter are scumbags.

3. Always wear my seatbelt.

(note: I skipped the jaywalking thing... I rarely walk where I need to cross streets)

4. I don't like paying higher prices for games and things because (a.) these a$$es are making money selling them illegally. (b.) They get away with it for a long time because pricks like you only look out for yourselves and not what's best for the rest of society.


That is the biggest load of BS Ive heard buddy. Like youve never done any of that or drank underage or toked up or loitered. Your a funny guy but just not today!
 

Maetryx

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He never said it was his friend. He said "I know a person". That makes a difference to me, anyway. He is under no obligation to tell a person that they better quit, blah blah blah. That person undoubtedly knows that what they are doing is immoral and illegal.

All the comparisons to jay-walking, seat-belt wearing etc. are irrelevant. XZeroII should feel free to report this person. If somehow that hurts your feelings, then you have a problem, not XZeroII. Presumably you would behave differently in this situation. So what?

More power to you, XZeroII.
 

Zombie

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Seriously, get a farkin GF and mind your own damn business.

what the hell is wrong with you.
 

waylman

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
I know a person who is selling pirated xbox games. I feel it's my responsibility to rat him out. Anyone have any information on how to go about this?


(keyword is SELLING, as in making money off doing this).

im sorry, but you are a dick
 

Hossenfeffer

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I still say talk to him.

Say, for instance, that I'm a painter. I do a painting and am selling prints. A guy copies the print and starts selling the copies. Hell yes, I'd want to know about it. Even if one in 20 of the people who bought the copy would have legitimately bought my "original", that's still money I'm not getting.

If he's man enough to choose to break the law, he's man enough to accept the consequences. It can be partly up to you as to whether he quits on his own accord or gets some "assistance".

Reminds me of my time in high school. Couple guys behind me in Biology class were talking about stealing car stereos. I wish I'd had or taken some opportunity to mention that to a teacher, them, law enforcement or whoever. Over 10 years later, and I've been involved with 4 stereos being ripped off. I hate that feeling. And some jackasses are making money off of it and then I've gotta fit the bill for a new window, stereo, alarm, etc. (No, it's not directly applicable, since an actual "theft" isn't necessarily evident)

If it grates on you, do something about it. If you're complacent, it's your funeral. Do whatcha gotta do.
 

FFactory0x

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Originally posted by: Maetryx
He never said it was his friend. He said "I know a person". That makes a difference to me, anyway. He is under no obligation to tell a person that they better quit, blah blah blah. That person undoubtedly knows that what they are doing is immoral and illegal.

All the comparisons to jay-walking, seat-belt wearing etc. are irrelevant. XZeroII should feel free to report this person. If somehow that hurts your feelings, then you have a problem, not XZeroII. Presumably you would behave differently in this situation. So what?

More power to you, XZeroII.


I dont know if im hearing this right. Comparisons to all the other stuff is irrelevant? How so? I dont want to here this junk about you wont get in as much trouble bs either cause i mean they are illegal non the less and are laws enacted to protect citizens. I just dont understand along with others here why he feels the need to turn the kid in for doing something wrong/illegal. Also people saying owning pirated software is one thing but selling is another can eat that crock of shat. So would it be different if he was giving it away for free? Would that be ok? I mean he prolly got it for free plus he wouldnt be making money off it? Think about what you guys are saying.

 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
How old are you man? Seriously whats you age

a. Why does it matter?
b. How old are you? Unless you work for Drexel, then you're probably 22 or under. So you're not really in a place to use age against someone.
 

XZeroII

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Jun 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Originally posted by: Maetryx
He never said it was his friend. He said "I know a person". That makes a difference to me, anyway. He is under no obligation to tell a person that they better quit, blah blah blah. That person undoubtedly knows that what they are doing is immoral and illegal.

All the comparisons to jay-walking, seat-belt wearing etc. are irrelevant. XZeroII should feel free to report this person. If somehow that hurts your feelings, then you have a problem, not XZeroII. Presumably you would behave differently in this situation. So what?

More power to you, XZeroII.


I dont know if im hearing this right. Comparisons to all the other stuff is irrelevant? How so? All those other comparisons mean nothing. What does it prove? That I might have littered at one point in my life? Does that mean that I can no longer contriubte to society? If you say that, then no one could ever stop anyone from doing anything! If someone ever hits your car and leaves a dent, are you going to just smile and wave? According to what you're saying, thats what you should do because you've littered at one point in your life. You drank when you were underage, etc...I dont want to here this junk about you wont get in as much trouble bs either cause i mean they are illegal non the less and are laws enacted to protect citizens. I just dont understand along with others here why he feels the need to turn the kid in for doing something wrong/illegalbecause I want to live in a better world. I know I can't change it alone, but I'm gonna try.. Also people saying owning pirated software is one thing but selling is another can eat that crock of shat. So would it be different if he was giving it away for free? Would that be ok? I mean he prolly got it for free plus he wouldnt be making money off it? Think about what you guys are sayingIf he were not profiting from it, it would still be wrong, but not wrong enough for action at this point. I pick and choose my battles.

 

FFactory0x

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Ohh i am 21 and trying to make a point.

Your 21 years old and telling on people. Shouldnt you be at the bar hanging out with girls or having the time of your life? Ohh thats right. NO. You sitting your arse down in front of the computer worrying about turning someone in for piracy. I have seriously out of the 1000's i know here at Drexel have never heard anyone worry about narcing on someone for pirating. They all have lives and couldnt give 2 sh*ts about something so lame. I suggest you pick up your arm, extent it, extent your middle finger and hit that little button that says power. Next get up walk to the door and GO OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

funboy6942

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Im saying if your going to rat him out you may as well start a huge list on everyone and your butt better be squeaky clean before you rat on him becuase that one person you rat out isnt going to put a dent into anything.

I mean how good can you feel when you turn him in for breaking the law when I am sure you have at some point. We all do at one time or another. Havent you ever gone over the speed limit, took some candy from the candy bin at the store, never wore your seat belt, used a service and not paid for it, "borrowed" a pen and never returned it, taped a football game without written permission from the nfl, taped a music video, taped your favorite show, recorded music off the radio, downloaded a mp3 from napster???? I mean there is soo many things that we all do that is considered against the law and just because you found one person that is doing it to make you feel better about yourself for turning him in then you had better take a look at yourself in the mirror and say there isnt one thing you have ever done EVER! And if you can you must be the G.O.D.

The long and short of it is the government wants and needs that person to break the law so they can keep getting their money from us in the form of taxes and fines. I am quite certin they know he is doing it. There is a record everytime he buys a butt load of blank cds, and lables and when he gets big enough his time will come with out your help.

And if you decide to turn him in you had better watch everything you do so not to break the law. And if you do break the law I hope you turn yourself in for doing it. And if not there might be someone like you who will find out you broke the law and for him to feel good about himself might turn you in :)


 

Hossenfeffer

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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Ohh i am 21 and trying to make a point.

Your 21 years old and telling on people. Shouldnt you be at the bar hanging out with girls or having the time of your life? Ohh thats right. NO. You sitting your arse down in front of the computer worrying about turning someone in for piracy. I have seriously out of the 1000's i know here at Drexel have never heard anyone worry about narcing on someone for pirating. They all have lives and couldnt give 2 sh*ts about something so lame. I suggest you pick up your arm, extent it, extent your middle finger and hit that little button that says power. Next get up walk to the door and GO OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell does reporting somebody for selling pirated games have to do with having a life?

Jackass.
 

FFactory0x

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Its just that there are millions of other things a 21 year old should worry about other than what the hell someone else is doing. Like maybe go to school, find a job, get a girlfriend, go party. I feel like im dealing with idiots here.

I mean does anyone here understand what im trying to say
 

Hossenfeffer

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Originally posted by: funboy6942
Im saying if your going to rat him out you may as well start a huge list on everyone and your butt better be squeaky clean before you rat on him becuase that one person you rat out isnt going to put a dent into anything.

I mean how good can you feel when you turn him in for breaking the law when I am sure you have at some point. We all do at one time or another. Havent you ever gone over the speed limit, took some candy from the candy bin at the store, never wore your seat belt, used a service and not paid for it, "borrowed" a pen and never returned it, taped a football game without written permission from the nfl, taped a music video, taped your favorite show, recorded music off the radio, downloaded a mp3 from napster???? I mean there is soo many things that we all do that is considered against the law and just because you found one person that is doing it to make you feel better about yourself for turning him in then you had better take a look at yourself in the mirror and say there isnt one thing you have ever done EVER! And if you can you must be the G.O.D.

The long and short of it is the government wants and needs that person to break the law so they can keep getting their money from us in the form of taxes and fines. I am quite certin they know he is doing it. There is a record everytime he buys a butt load of blank cds, and lables and when he gets big enough his time will come with out your help.

And if you decide to turn him in you had better watch everything you do so not to break the law. And if you do break the law I hope you turn yourself in for doing it. And if not there might be someone like you who will find out you broke the law and for him to feel good about himself might turn you in :)


If you choose to break the law, you've gotta be ready to accept the consequences.

(the thought about some "Record" of him buying loads of bland cd's is, imho, a crock, btw. Buying a reasonably large amount of cd's and selling pirated software are far from a direct relationship ;) )
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Ohh i am 21 and trying to make a point.

Your 21 years old and telling on people. Shouldnt you be at the bar hanging out with girls or having the time of your life? Ohh thats right. NO. You sitting your arse down in front of the computer worrying about turning someone in for piracy. I have seriously out of the 1000's i know here at Drexel have never heard anyone worry about narcing on someone for pirating. They all have lives and couldnt give 2 sh*ts about something so lame. I suggest you pick up your arm, extent it, extent your middle finger and hit that little button that says power. Next get up walk to the door and GO OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, you think that instead of trying to help the world, I should go to the bar/get drunk? Are you messed up? You should seriously seek help if you actually believe that. Just because you hang out with losers who don't give 2 sh*ts about the world doesn't mean that everyone should be that way.
 

Zombie

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Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Ohh i am 21 and trying to make a point.

Your 21 years old and telling on people. Shouldnt you be at the bar hanging out with girls or having the time of your life? Ohh thats right. NO. You sitting your arse down in front of the computer worrying about turning someone in for piracy. I have seriously out of the 1000's i know here at Drexel have never heard anyone worry about narcing on someone for pirating. They all have lives and couldnt give 2 sh*ts about something so lame. I suggest you pick up your arm, extent it, extent your middle finger and hit that little button that says power. Next get up walk to the door and GO OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell does reporting somebody for selling pirated games have to do with having a life?

Jackass.

It proves that he is a whiny b!tch who has nothing better to do and can't mind his own damn business. You would have to be seriously brain damaged to think about messing up somebodys whole life for something that more than half of US population does.

yes I am talking about mp3's.
 

waylman

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What the hell does reporting somebody for selling pirated games have to do with having a life?

I think it's a valid point. The person that started this thread is obviously just a pathetic loser with low self esteem looking for a way to empower himself.
 

XZeroII

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Jun 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: funboy6942
Im saying if your going to rat him out you may as well start a huge list on everyone and your butt better be squeaky clean before you rat on him becuase that one person you rat out isnt going to put a dent into anything.

I mean how good can you feel when you turn him in for breaking the law when I am sure you have at some point. We all do at one time or another. Havent you ever gone over the speed limit, took some candy from the candy bin at the store, never wore your seat belt, used a service and not paid for it, "borrowed" a pen and never returned it, taped a football game without written permission from the nfl, taped a music video, taped your favorite show, recorded music off the radio, downloaded a mp3 from napster???? I mean there is soo many things that we all do that is considered against the law and just because you found one person that is doing it to make you feel better about yourself for turning him in then you had better take a look at yourself in the mirror and say there isnt one thing you have ever done EVER! And if you can you must be the G.O.D.

The long and short of it is the government wants and needs that person to break the law so they can keep getting their money from us in the form of taxes and fines. I am quite certin they know he is doing it. There is a record everytime he buys a butt load of blank cds, and lables and when he gets big enough his time will come with out your help.

And if you decide to turn him in you had better watch everything you do so not to break the law. And if you do break the law I hope you turn yourself in for doing it. And if not there might be someone like you who will find out you broke the law and for him to feel good about himself might turn you in :)

I admit, I'm not perfect and have done some bad things. However, this doesn't mean that my hands are tied. If doing one bad thing in life meant that you couldn't pass judgement on anyone else, there would be anarchy. No one could stop anyone else from doing anything. Illegal is illegal and if you do something illegal you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences.
 

Zebo

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Seriously why not just have a chat with him? If hes at all a freind or a freind of a freind you owe him that at least i think...