Pipeline hacked/the greedy line up

[MtnMan]

People have lost their fucking minds, long lines at any station that has gasoline. Ran errands yesterday and today, and streets are hosed up with people sitting in line. Of course there are the jack-wagons trying to cut the line.

Gas Pipeline Hack Leads to Panic Buying in the Southeast (Published 2021)

The national average for a gallon of regular gasoline rose 2 cents on Tuesday, and some airlines began to take small measures in response to the shutdown.

www.nytimes.com

I drive a diesel, and there is plenty of that available, but that's no help when diesel and gas come from the same island. Went to my normal station for diesel, simply because they have several diesel only islands. When I got there only a fire truck and a pickup at any pump, they were out of gas. Filled with diesel and was getting back in the car, yes car, when the woman behind me apparently thought there was gas because I was filling a small car, a VW TDI. I've never heard such from a rather distinguished older woman, driving a very nice high-end car.

Any way, got a tank of diesel, good for almost 600 miles, so no worries there. The RAV4 will see limited use till sanity returns.

Went to Sam's today, line to pumps over a 1/4 mile long. Fortunately there is a different entrance so getting to store not an issue. According to media they only had premium.

The longer I witness peoples behavior, the more I hate people.

 

[allisolm]

Telling where you are might help the rest of us.

I’m in VA right now but will have to drive back to FL next week. Hope things will have settled down by then. We didn’t go out today so don’t know what gas stations look like in this area.

 

[Brainonska511]

City and suburban design failures of the last 70 years are coming home to roost. The American over-reliance on the personal automobile is going to continue being a big pinch point.

 

[K1052]

Amazing to watch a limited supply issue blossom into a full blown panic because people are dumb.

 

[K1052]

City and suburban design failures of the last 70 years are coming home to roost. The American over-reliance on the personal automobile is going to continue being a big pinch point.

Trucking as opposed to efficient freight rail too.

 

[MtnMan]

Telling where you are might help the rest of us.

I’m in VA right now but will have to drive back to FL next week. Hope things will have settled down by then. We didn’t go out today so don’t know what gas stations look like in this area.

Asheville NC, the closest pipeline terminal is about 60+ miles away in Spartanburg, SC. So in addition to pipeline gas we are also at the mercy of truckers delivering the fuel. There have already been warnings of outages this summer because the drivers qualified to haul gasoline had to find other gigs during the shutdown last year.

What I'm seeing looks line pretty standard across the state. Charlotte which has a pipeline terminal, with big storage tanks, has pictures of long gas lines.

The governor has declared a state of emergency, which doesn't do a lot, but it does allow truckers less restrictions on deliveries, assume can drive more hours, and comes down hard on anyone that chooses to price gouge.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Aptera can't come any sooner.

 

[MtnMan]

Also noted while at Sam's, none of the EV charging stations they have were in use.

 

[BoomerD]

DRIVE FOR FIVE IS ALIVE!

 

[Jaskalas]

Amazing to watch a limited supply issue blossom into a full blown panic because people are dumb.

It is no joke when it is considered an EMP attack would kill 90% of us. It is not the attack directly, but the consequence to our supply chain and human behavior that follows. Disruption causes scarcity causes anarchy causes death. The only thing stopping us from killing each other is the smooth operation of our economy.

 

[K1052]

It is no joke when it is considered an EMP attack would kill 90% of us. It is not the attack directly, but the consequence to our supply chain and human behavior that follows. Disruption causes scarcity causes anarchy causes death. The only thing stopping us from killing each other is the smooth operation of our economy.

The nuclear war such an attempt would likely trigger is also somewhat of a concern. If the US sees multiple ICBM launches from a hostile nation with trajectories anywhere near the US we're going to be turning keys of our own.

 

[Jaskalas]

My chief concern is what we do to ourselves when supplies are disrupted. I reference the article to demonstrate that this issue is more widely understood than just my random musings. And I relate back to it when there are minor disruptions and people start acting out.

 

[weblooker2021]

I filled up all of our cars today. We will be topping them off daily now until issue with gas goes away.

 

[Thump553]

I filled up all of our cars today. We will be topping them off daily now until issue with gas goes away.

Good way to maintain length of lines and frustration levels and extend the length of the problem.

BTW here in New England no such problems at all. Gas has been rising-slowly-but haven't seen any lines anywhere yet.

 

[MrSquished]

NY/NJ have not seen any shortages, as just reported by WNYC

 

[IronWing]

Also noted while at Sam's, none of the EV charging stations they have were in use.

My new plan: develop a portable coal gasification plant and run it off the chargers at Sam’s.

 

[blackangst1]

It is no joke when it is considered an EMP attack would kill 90% of us. It is not the attack directly, but the consequence to our supply chain and human behavior that follows. Disruption causes scarcity causes anarchy causes death. The only thing stopping us from killing each other is the smooth operation of our economy.

Yep!

 

[kage69]

BTW here in New England no such problems at all. Gas has been rising-slowly-but haven't seen any lines anywhere yet.

Knock on wood.

The Colonial pipeline services Georgia up to the NY/NJ coastal areas. New England gets a lot of it's gasoline and diesel from Montreal's Norcan and St. John's Canaport terminals. I deal with Irving people from time to time, no complaints.

 

[K1052]

NY/NJ have not seen any shortages, as just reported by WNYC

I think much of your market is served by refineries in NJ/PA.

 

[K1052]

My chief concern is what we do to ourselves when supplies are disrupted. I reference the article to demonstrate that this issue is more widely understood than just my random musings. And I relate back to it when there are minor disruptions and people start acting out.

My point was that any attempt to do this would quite likely result in the nuclear obliteration of the attacking nation. MAD still applies so it's a pretty low probability event.

 

[thraashman]

I definitely wish I'd gotten more than half a tank when I filled up Sunday. So hopefully I can get gas in the next 120 miles of use.

 

[brandonbull]

City and suburban design failures of the last 70 years are coming home to roost. The American over-reliance on the personal automobile is going to continue being a big pinch point.

Or the a-hole hackers that think it's a game to be greedy and hold companies hostage?

 

[Ajay]

Or the a-hole hackers that think it's a game to be greedy and hold companies hostage?

Seriously, we need to drop the hammer on these guys. Got a job for the CIA SOG guys.

 

[pauldun170]

Checks motorcycle...full tank
Checks Camry...full tank.
Checks GTI...full tank.
Checks wife's car...full tank.
Checks lawnmower....full tank
Checks leaf vacuum....full tank.
Checks calendar for when he has to actually drive anywhere..

 

[pcgeek11]

I lived through the Jimmy Carter gas shortage, I'll live through these idiots too.