Piercing baby ears/circumcision

[Orsorum]

I will not let my daughter(s) get their ears pierced until their early teens, and my son(s) will not be circumcised.

 

[RaDragon]

My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: RaDragon
My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

Culture is not a good reason to pierce or circumcise. The child's human right to bodily integrity is more important than culture.

 

[DaShen]

Daughters ears - H3ll No!

Son's PP - Not sure (Used to be taught as hygenic, but now doctors are switching the other way)

 

[jadinolf]

Votes registered.

 

[Abe Froman]

Daughter's Ears- Of Course, she won't remember anything that happens.

Son's Equipment - Get it cut...No one likes an eggroll

 

[Megatomic]

No

Yes

 

[FoBoT]

i don't/won't have a son
but i believe a boy should be the same as his father, so whack it off

 

[shilala]

Ear piercing is no big deal and can be done anytime.
Circumcision is a bitch when guys get older.
A buddy of mine had to get circumcised because he got his dick caught in his zipper and his diabetes wouldn't allow it to heal. Fvckin near killed him.

 

[Leomarg02]

My daughter, no piercing until you can spell the word and as for my son, you've got your first appointment with a scissor.

 

[suse920]

Wow i cant believe people feel so strongly about getting ears peirced. Anyways i really dont mind the notion. Although i would not run out to get it done, if the mom wants it i would let her.

And yeah i'd get my son cut at birth. Anything after is just cruel.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: shilala
Ear piercing is no big deal and can be done anytime.
Circumcision is a bitch when guys get older.
A buddy of mine had to get circumcised because he got his dick caught in his zipper and his diabetes wouldn't allow it to heal. Fvckin near killed him.

There's really no reason for a guy to get it done when he's older. Check out the circ rates in countries that don't routinely circumcise. Virtually nonexistant. In any case, an adult has the choice to get cut and can be put under general anesthetic. General anesthetic is not an option for babies (too risky) and other anesthetics just can't dull the pain of their penis being cut up. So, babies get to feel all the pain. Welcome to life in America, son!

While it sucks that your buddy had the accident and diabetes related healing problems, why does it figure that your son will wind up in the same or similar situation? Billions of men all over the world live their entire lives fully intact with no penis problems. That's no reason to cut every single American baby, because they might have a problem.

 

[BW86]

yes
yes

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
i don't/won't have a son
but i believe a boy should be the same as his father, so whack it off

So should the father bust out his penis so the circumcisor can make sure he duplicates it just right?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
No

Yes

So you'd have concern for your daughter's feelings, but not your son? How does that work? I'd never let anyone hurt my son.

 

[RaDragon]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon
My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

Culture is not a good reason to pierce or circumcise. The child's human right to bodily integrity is more important than culture.

Culture: noun; the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group. That practise was wildly accepted and it's a custom. Clearly, you have not been brought up with such customs, but I hope that you respect mine without sounding demeaning or derogatory.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: RaDragon

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon
My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

Culture is not a good reason to pierce or circumcise. The child's human right to bodily integrity is more important than culture.

Culture: noun; the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group. That practise was wildly accepted and it's a custom. Clearly, you have not been brought up with such customs, but I hope that you respect mine without sounding demeaning or derogatory.

I'm an American, and its customary to cut up babies here. I bucked the trend and protected my son.

All I'm saying is that you should put your children ahead of your customs. If it looks like it hurts, it does. Protect your kids.

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon
My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

Culture is not a good reason to pierce or circumcise. The child's human right to bodily integrity is more important than culture.

Culture: noun; the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group. That practise was wildly accepted and it's a custom. Clearly, you have not been brought up with such customs, but I hope that you respect mine without sounding demeaning or derogatory.

I'm an American, and its customary to cut up babies here. I bucked the trend and protected my son.

All I'm saying is that you should put your children ahead of your customs. If it looks like it hurts, it does. Protect your kids.

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You really think that the pain was going to make a difference in your son's life?

 

[biostud]

where did circumcision originate from in US?
AFAIK only arab and jews gets it done in Europe.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: biostud
where did circumcision originate from in US?
AFAIK only arab and jews gets it done in Europe.

Masturbation hysteria mostly. It started around the 1900s. Kellogg (the cereal guy) theorizes that all men's problems were due to loss of sperm, so he set about making sex and especially masturbation less pleasurable. Hence, circumcision. He also was an advocate of female circumcision, especially clitorectomies. Since then, it has been a treatment searching for a cause. You name it, its been done.

UTIs? Antibiotics seem to cure girls just fine, but we have to do surgery on little boys. :roll:
Penile cancer? More rare than male breast cancer, but better chop part off to be "safe."
Dirty? Are American boys too stupid to wash? or are American parents too stupid/hung up to teach? Better chop it off... much better than soap!

Look up circumcsion on wikipedia. It goes into good details. Also, for a more "biased" approach, look on www.nocirc.org.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon
My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

Culture is not a good reason to pierce or circumcise. The child's human right to bodily integrity is more important than culture.

Culture: noun; the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group. That practise was wildly accepted and it's a custom. Clearly, you have not been brought up with such customs, but I hope that you respect mine without sounding demeaning or derogatory.

I'm an American, and its customary to cut up babies here. I bucked the trend and protected my son.

All I'm saying is that you should put your children ahead of your customs. If it looks like it hurts, it does. Protect your kids.

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You really think that the pain was going to make a difference in your son's life?

Its not so much the pain, although its always a good idea to love your children and not hurt them. Its more that I am depriving him of a useful part of his body. Even if you don't believe the foreskin is useful and think a circ'd penis is perfect, is it your penis? No, it belongs to your son and he should make the decision about whether to perform cosmetic surgery on it.

And if you don't think it hurts, snip some skin on your penis. Bet you don't have the courage, but you'd willingly strap your son in for the same, right?

Some studies have shown that circ'd babies cry more than girls and intact male babies at their routine vacinations. I'd have to dig for the link. Remembered pain, perhaps?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
i don't/won't have a son
but i believe a boy should be the same as his father, so whack it off

So, because you're mutilated your son should also be mutilated? Great logic there...:roll:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: RaDragon
My mum had my ears pierced when I was young -- I barely remembered it, but I know it hurt. I didn't care though. One less thing to do when I grew up.

It's part of my culture to have babies circumcised...

Culture is not a good reason to pierce or circumcise. The child's human right to bodily integrity is more important than culture.

Culture: noun; the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group. That practise was wildly accepted and it's a custom. Clearly, you have not been brought up with such customs, but I hope that you respect mine without sounding demeaning or derogatory.

I'm an American, and its customary to cut up babies here. I bucked the trend and protected my son.

All I'm saying is that you should put your children ahead of your customs. If it looks like it hurts, it does. Protect your kids.

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You really think that the pain was going to make a difference in your son's life?

You really think that cutting off his foreskin will make a difference in his son's life?

 

[eakers]

i think circumcision isn't necessary but I am leaving the choice up to the father of the baby because men get weird about that kind of thing.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: eakers
i think circumcision isn't necessary but I am leaving the choice up to the father of the baby because men get weird about that kind of thing.

When you get to that point, watch the circumcision video at www.intact.ca. Trust me, you won't feel the same afterwards. You'll want to protect your son, at any cost. I know for a fact that my wife would have left me if I insisted on having it done. Fortunately, I'm as anti-circ as she is. 🙂