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soccerballtux

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what about AM2+? I have a GA-MA790X-UD4P and their page for this board doesn't say anything about it. This is what's holding me back from buying.
 
RussianSensation

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StinkyPinky said:
I think the 1055T is an amazing value. The CPU itself is dirt cheap and the motherboards are generally cheaper.
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Corrected

$150 at Tiger Direct: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...5DqU1Fh3LgInhA

:)

As has been mentioned, in video encoding and rendering, an overclocked 1055T will shred a Core i7 860. However, for everything else, an overclocked Core i7 is still faster. Glad to see AMD offering 2 extra cores over 965 for "free" though!
 
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Nemesis 1

Nemesis 1

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Well after reading almost every review our group is going to see if we can make review sites accountable for what they print. I want to see 3 of these reviews done in a court of law so we can see the results as reported. AT is very close to what we get.

I think a few sites distorted the results and according to our benches and others someone is lieing . Time to make the liers pay.
 
Hacp

Hacp

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Ok, looks like anand got his to 4.0 using 1.45 voltage using a 64bit OS. I wonder how it goes at 32bit.I also wonder how gaming goes when you use an overclocked northbridge with the AMD.
 
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Nemesis 1 said:
Well after reading almost every review our group is going to see if we can make review sites accountable for what they print. I want to see 3 of these reviews done in a court of law so we can see the results as reported. AT is very close to what we get.

I think a few sites distorted the results and according to our benches and others someone is lieing . Time to make the liers pay.
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Sounds like someone's feeling defensive.
 
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Nemesis 1 said:
Well after reading almost every review our group is going to see if we can make review sites accountable for what they print. I want to see 3 of these reviews done in a court of law so we can see the results as reported. AT is very close to what we get.

I think a few sites distorted the results and according to our benches and others someone is lieing . Time to make the liers pay.
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So you think Intel is sponsoring their lack of truth or do you think they are just willfully misrepresenting the results they come up with out of allegiance to Intel?
 
Bacstar

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I have a ASUS Crosshair Formula III motherboard and as of last night, haven't seen any BIOS updates yet for the new X6's. I just upgraded my system this past December to a Phenom II 965 @ 3.6ghz, so I'll probably wait til next year before I decide to upgrade again.

Hopefully, they have a few speed bumps by then.
 
MJinZ

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AzN said:
There's no such thing as guaranteed overclocking so you might as well compare stock vs stock. The numbers speak for themselves. Why is that you can't accept it?
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Well... the Core i7 chips pretty much guarantee 3.8ghz... I mean with no voltage changes at all... I have not seen anyone who was not able to achieve at least 3.8..
 
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Nemesis 1

Nemesis 1

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Ertaz said:
So you think Intel is sponsoring their lack of truth or do you think they are just willfully misrepresenting the results they come up with out of allegiance to Intel?
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Your amusing. I do find it odd that this Site AT forums membership is more down to earth than other sites. NO I don't think AMD paid off anyone . Ido believe that Some review sites should stop reviewing hardware as their bias shows bigtime . People buy according to reviews . So what some sites are doing is fudging some results badly . These sites I feel need to explain their results infront of judge and jury. As for a paradox as comparred to AT forums read the XS forum on same subject . This is not XS . But people here are more honest and forthright than those at XS. Clock for clock AMD has nothing that matches up to intel . I kinda want BD > SB so amd has to compete on performance rather than price . Than we shall see who is real and who are pretenders.

AMD BD > SB = Hugh price increase on AMD BD CPUs . I like Intel , AMD is alright . But ya I remember AMD pricies before Penryn . They were raping the community . They will try to do it again . But this time we will have Intel holding there pricies same as AMD no matter who wins benchies. I will still buy Intel . TO use .
 
RussianSensation

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AzN said:
Meh. That's only if 1055T is overclocked to a stock i7 860. Then again i7 also overclocks.
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Ok but a Core i7 860 is $280 at Newegg. Unless you can get it at MicroCenter, Core i7 860 is almost 2x as expensive as the 1055T. Sure, Intel will be faster in games though but bang for the buck, 1055T OCed is the best mid-range processor < $175 imo. It sure makes 955/965 processors irrelevant. The only viable alternative to 1055T in its price bracket is the Core i5 750. There is no way I would pick ANY core i3 or i5 processor (other than 750) over a 6 core Phenom II that overclocks beyond 4.0ghz. I think that dual core processors have a limited lifespan considering that next generation consoles will be even more multi-core/multi-threaded. Add to the fact that in some games, HT actually hurts performance, Core i3/5 HT processors are extremely overpriced unless you can get one for $85-95.

What is really hurting AMD is lack of any competitive mobile cpu offerings When Apple, Acer and HP are selling laptops like hotcakes, Intel's is dominating those sales. This is esp. important since notebook market likely exceeds the desktop market for CPU shipments (too lazy to validate this).
 
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happy medium

happy medium

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Bulldozer is compatable with the fx890 AM3 motherboards also.
If I was buying new today I'd go AMD.
Socket 1156 and 1333 is allmost dead.(9 more months,mabe?). Sandybridge is a new socket.

AMD has good performance for the dollar and long term compatability.
 
yh125d

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happy medium said:
Bulldozer is compatable with the fx890 AM3 motherboards also.
If I was buying new today I'd go AMD.
Socket 1156 and 1333 is allmost dead.(9 more months,mabe?). Sandybridge is a new socket.

AMD has good performance for the dollar and long term compatability.
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I thought SB wasn't expected to even start showing up until Q3 2011?
 
MentalIlness

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According to Newegg, the X4 965 also got lowered in price by another $10. Keep falling prices and I will upgrade even sooner.

Doesn't Thuban also use less power than the I7 series ?

Honestly, I will be going back to AMD. Right now I have a P45 motherboard and a Core 2. So I need something new to play with now.

And for me, the price premium for a small performance advantage, Intel is not an option for me.

And is it just me, or does the AMD and Intel cpu's pretty much equal out as the resolution increases ? I need to know this information since I will also be going with at 24" LCD.

From what I can tell, Intel owns AMD at lower resolutions, but no where near as much at like 1920.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 
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veri745

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MentalIlness said:
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And is it just me, or does the AMD and Intel cpu's pretty much equal out as the resolution increases ? I need to know this information since I will also be going with at 24" LCD.

From what I can tell, Intel owns AMD at lower resolutions, but no where near as much at like 1920.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Performance equalizes at higher resolutions because framerates become dependent on the GPU instead of the CPU.

For me, I could care less if my processor performed 25% better than another at a resolution that I never run, but they run at low resolutions to contrast the differences between the processors.
 
MentalIlness

MentalIlness

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veri745 said:
Performance equalizes at higher resolutions because framerates become dependent on the GPU instead of the CPU.

For me, I could care less if my processor performed 25% better than another at a resolution that I never run, but they run at low resolutions to contrast the differences between the processors.
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So you are saying that....The faster the GPU the more the cpu would pull away ?
 
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