Perfect scenario good guy with gun vs bad guy with gun. What happened?

[brycejones]

You have no idea at all if he was planning on that being the end of his murderous spree. He was stopped by a good guy with a gun, sorry.

tajbot, whoosh function is enabled.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You can't prove something didn't happen. Period. The largest mass shooting in Texas history occurred. The perpetrator was killed as he was already leaving, mission complete. (have they officially confirmed the neighbor did hit him? I haven't had a chance to keep up). Was he going to go murder more people? Maybe, but that's speculative and since it didn't actually happen you absolutely cannot claim it was prevented. Usually this particular case to prove that a good guy with a gun prevents a bad guy with a gun is laughable, and demonstrates just how poor an argument it is.

Sorry, but he was stopped by the good guy with a gun. It was the end of the shooters story. You can make up whatever you want.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You have no idea at all if he was planning on that being the end of his murderous spree. He was stopped by a good guy with a gun, sorry.

lol, sorry, right, yea, sure. That's believable. don't forget to send another check to the nra you sick fuck

 

[TheVrolok]

Sorry, but he was stopped by the good guy with a gun. It was the end of the shooters story. You can make up whatever you want.

You're quite simply wrong by all reasonable logic. I certainly don't expect you to understand that, though, which is fine. It amuses me see you dig in and fail, though.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

lol, sorry, right, yea, sure. That's believable. don't forget to send another check to the nra you sick fuck

I will, thanks. You know the guy that stopped him used to be a NRA instructor?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You're quite simply wrong by all reasonable logic. I certainly don't expect you to understand that, though, which is fine. It amuses me see you dig in and fail, though.

Say what you want Vorhole, he was stopped by the man that shot him outside the church.

 

[TheVrolok]

Say what you want Vorhole, he was stopped by the man that shot him outside the church.

Vorhole actually got a lol out of me. I don't really get it, but I appreciate the effort. It's really felt like you've lacked effort in your trolling recently.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I will, thanks. You know the guy that stopped him used to be a NRA instructor?

Such a good waterboy tajjy.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Vorhole actually got a lol out of me. I don't really get it, but I appreciate the effort. It's really felt like you've lacked effort in your trolling recently.

So your way of renaming someone by adding 'hole' passes as clever to you? Sad.

 

[TheVrolok]

Oh no no not clever. I think I just got this mental image of some little pudgy fingers hammering away at the keyboard with a snicker and a smirk across a pasty white face lit only by the glow of his monitor as he sits in his dark basement. Gave me a good laugh.

 

[BigDH01]

It's a weird reality where we say "Man with gun shoots other man with gun after other man with gun mows down 26 people. Crisis averted, guns are awesome, glad men have them to stop other men from using them after they've already used them."

Nobody was stopped here unless your definition of preventing a plane crash is you put out the fire of the wreckage of a plane that hit the ground at 500 knots. Yeah, it's possible that a life was miraculously saved, but the damage has been done. People keep wanting to buy better fire extinguishers instead of addressing why the plane crashed.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Say what you want Vorhole, he was stopped by the man that shot him outside the church.

Actually, he was stopped when he put a bullet in his own head.

 

[urvile]

Given that easy access to high powered weapons isn't the problem what the US needs is a more radical solution.

Legalise murder.

Hear me out here. Everyone is issued a gun at birth and trained how to use it. So it won't matter if murder is legal. Because the entire population is armed it will stop all crime. In fact the US might as well just get rid of the criminal justice system, prisons etc. Think about the tax cuts that could lead to.

 

[TheVrolok]

Actually, he was stopped when he put a bullet in his own head.

Ah was wondering which is why I asked. Has that been confirmed? I haven't read news today and it was still uncertain who fired his fatal bullet.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Ah was wondering which is why I asked. Has that been confirmed? I haven't read news today and it was still uncertain who fired his fatal bullet.

They're waiting on the autopsy but that's how they found him, with a bullet in the head that was apparently self inflicted. And that's how it's been announced by the local authorities in pretty much every article that I've seen.

 

[TheVrolok]

They're waiting on the autopsy but that's how they found him, with a bullet in the head that was apparently self inflicted. And that's how it's been announced by the local authorities in pretty much every article that I've seen.

Sounds about right. Especially given that it would make Taj wrong which is a fairly strong indicator.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Sounds about right. Especially given that it would make Taj wrong which is a fairly strong indicator.

careful, he may think of a new name for you Vroholio. Dammit, sorry

 

[TheVrolok]

careful, he may think of a new name for you Vroholio. Dammit, sorry

OMG another good one!

 

[SlowSpyder]

nope

your definition of the word "stopped" sucks

The second time this patently false thing was stated in this thread and it's still wrong.

You know what this guy's plan was? Please explain how it is "patently false"? The shooter was shot, and further damage or escape was stopped, ended. It is very telling that you guys cannot even admit this much, reality is staring you in the face on this one, but you don't care. Anything that doesn't jibe with the agenda does not compute. Look at you guys wiggle.

 

[TheVrolok]

You know what this guy's plan was? Please explain how it is "patently false"? The shooter was shot, and further damage or escape was stopped, ended. It is very telling that you guys cannot even admit this much, reality is staring you in the face on this one, but you don't care. Anything that doesn't jibe with the agenda does not compute.

I already covered this above. Feel free to review. I know you won't, though, you're far too emotionally invested.

 

[woolfe9998]

You know what this guy's plan was? Please explain how it is "patently false"? The shooter was shot, and further damage or escape was stopped, ended. It is very telling that you guys cannot even admit this much, reality is staring you in the face on this one, but you don't care. Anything that doesn't jibe with the agenda does not compute. Look at you guys wiggle.

You're right. We do not know if he would have killed more people. The "good guy" in this case might have saved some lives. But how many of these mass murders have involved any intervention from "good guys with guns?" I can't recall any others, but I might be forgetting something.

 

[Sunburn74]

Given that easy access to high powered weapons isn't the problem what the US needs is a more radical solution.

Legalise murder.

Hear me out here. Everyone is issued a gun at birth and trained how to use it. So it won't matter if murder is legal. Because the entire population is armed it will stop all crime. In fact the US might as well just get rid of the criminal justice system, prisons etc. Think about the tax cuts that could lead to.

We should do a controlled experiment starting with just your neighborhood for a year.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You know what this guy's plan was? Please explain how it is "patently false"? The shooter was shot, and further damage or escape was stopped, ended. It is very telling that you guys cannot even admit this much, reality is staring you in the face on this one, but you don't care. Anything that doesn't jibe with the agenda does not compute. Look at you guys wiggle.

admit what? that 26 people were gunned down, and 1 person shot him as he was leaving. That's not exactly stopped. And if the reports are correct, he stopped himself with a self inflicted gunshot. So um, yea, a really horrible guy with a gun stopped a really horrible guy with a gun after he killed 26 people. Not exactly the optimal script you're trying to portray it to be.

 

[Paladin3]

We couldn't have known, but at the same time, there's simple logic at work: if multiple people have their guns drawn and it's not clear if the shooter is among them (say, if multiple people are pointing at one person), it makes it the task of clearing the scene harder for police.

I'm not even ruling out the possibility that they did deter the shooter, just taking down the myth that armed civilians are always better in every circumstance.

"Armed civilians are always better in every circumstance" is a ridiculous absolute to be arguing. Of course they are not. Only an idiot would argue such and you get no points for standing up against something so silly.

What I would ask you is if you and your family were in that Walmart with a shooter walking around, would you rather be armed or unarmed? Further more, would you rather there were zero armed civilians in the store because they were all obeying a law prohibiting them from carrying weapons? A law the shooter was ignoring and exploiting to go on a shooting rampage targeting an guaranteed unarmed pool of victims?

 

[HomerJS]

You have no idea where the murderer may have been going, the good guy with a guy stopped him.

They didn't stop him you moron. They tracked him and called police.

Bad as Trump. Fucking lie every other sentence. Hey Donnie Jr. I guess he was stopped from killing hundreds of people when the congregation was around 50.