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[tyler811]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
OP fails for not investigating a remarkably low grade before administering punishment. OP's son fails for not bringing the matter up with his teacher the day after being sentenced to two weeks hard time. OP's teacher fails for not double & triple checking their records before handing out an E. You should all apologize, because you're all sorry.

You fail for not reading the posts. How he bring it up if did not know about it till the report came out? I did fail because I forgot that we check his assignments online. I owned to it as I have posted.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: tyler811

Originally posted by: DrawninwarD
You grounded him for TWO weeks for failing Health? And that's some epic strict grounding man.

- Your son should have gone to see his teacher right after getting the report. I'd definitely inquire about randomly failing a class.
- You should ease up a bit dawg. Doesn't seem like your kid is a bad kid at all, you should be a little more forgiving.
- Teacher should be more careful, but shit happens. A few of my teachers in HS would enter incorrect grades.

Edit: I voted yes before fully reading the post. But that's because I thought that he was suspended or something by the school. I think I'd vote no now.

My son is the best just yesterday I was raking the yard and HE came outside and asked me if I wanted help. I have never missed a soccer game, band concert or swim lesson. A day never goes by that I do not hug him and tell him I love him at least twice a day. Even though he is in 7th grade I still wait with him for the bus. I asked him once if he wanted me stop because I thought it would be "uncool" in front of his friends. He was reply was no why I like you waiting me.

Now while he was grounded my wife and were there all time. Each night we would play cards or a board game just to reinforce the idea that even he was grounded it does not mean we do not love him or he dissappointed us

And yet I can't quite dismiss the fact that he was too cowed to successfully argue an obvious error with you.

That's kind of creepy, on the face of it.

This is the internet, OP, I don't know you. But . . . I can't help but think it's "take a long look in the mirror" time for you, based solely on what facts you've presented here.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: tyler811
I hit the roof but was calm when discussing this with him.

Which was it? I'm guessing the former, since your punishment seems, at least to me, to have been a little draconian.

I think part of the reason you're still mad is that YOU effed-up. Sure, she did, too, but angrily confronting her (and let's face it, your actions expose point to the high possibility of edging over into anger when you talk to her) can only have negative consequences.

Let it go. Don't even talk to her at all. You know, or should know, that you won't be able to truly, fully restrain yourself, don't you

What you need to do is to make it up to your son. Go do that and let the rest go, please.

My guess too. Teacher missed a grade, boohoo. I got an 18% once in a highschool class cause teacher missed a bunch of my grades. I explained it to my parents, they were outwardly chilled, then I went to the teacher the very next day. OP's kid is obviously a lot younger, so the parent should have went to the teacher before 'punishing' the kid.

 

[Squisher]

You need to think up something to make it up to him that'll make him want to mistakenly get grounded again, otherwise you'll stew over it. That said, if that is the worst you do to your kid, he is lucky. Being a parent means making mistakes.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: jamesbond007

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go.

I don't. Please explain.

You fail as a lifer. Please hand in your card on the way out.

Hey, don't blame me. I've never had a health class, let alone one that was taught by a female teacher.

 

[jersiq]

Here's my take.

I think that the teacher should be made aware of the situation, but the apology is up to her.

If, at work, I missed an important calculation for a presentation, who gets screwed? Who has to make amends for that work? Me. I get the impression that a lot of people were willing to just shrug it off as she's not culpable for making a mistake.

Second, is the teacher not generally aware of what sort of standing his students have in class? I would imagine that she would have a gauge of where a student was, and that his grade may not make sense. Or maybe that's just my naive understanding of the teaching profession.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: tyler811
I hit the roof but was calm when discussing this with him.

So I set up an appointment to see her because I was going to nail her ass to the wall.

I think you're the one that should be apologizing. Should have checked this before being so hard on your kid. But hey, its your kid. As far as your poll - no, the teacher is not to blame, you are. The teacher did not ground your child.

At least you taught you kid a lesson on making assumptions and handing out "discipline" without details or confirmation.

 

[hanoverphist]

took you 2 weeks to check with the teacher on it? when my oldest brought home a C due to missing 7 assignments she said she turned in, i called the teacher the next day and held off punishment until i straightened out the details. turned out the teacher was wrong, added the grades and brought her up to a 92%.

communication is key, but waiting 2 weeks after punishing your child is a bit slack on your part. she shouldnt have to apologize for that.

 

[NaOH]

Teach your son a lesson and let it go. Everyone was a bit in the wrong and you need to teach him to be the bigger person and be able to walk away/not put blame on others when you get screwed (in this case it was an inconvenience). I would say that it seemed like an overreaction punishment wise when you could have tried to sort it out first.

 

[LtPage1]

Yes, but it'd be crazy for you to demand that she do so. Let it go and make it up to your son some other way.

 

[finite automaton]

I had a professor do that to me for my final grade. It was the last grade I was expecting and was the first thing I kept checking every morning.

He gave me a D.

This is not even CLOSE to what I was expecting, so I e-mailed him and he responded "I'm sorry, that should have been a B."

The student has the responsibility of having some idea of where they stand. If I didn't challenge the professor I would have had to take the class again. It's your fault for grounding your son, you should have done your research just as your son should have known that his grade shouldn't have been that low.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: tyler811

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
OP fails for not investigating a remarkably low grade before administering punishment. OP's son fails for not bringing the matter up with his teacher the day after being sentenced to two weeks hard time. OP's teacher fails for not double & triple checking their records before handing out an E. You should all apologize, because you're all sorry.

You fail for not reading the posts. How he bring it up if did not know about it till the report came out? I did fail because I forgot that we check his assignments online. I owned to it as I have posted.

:laugh: This was eight posts up:

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
OP fails for not investigating a remarkably low grade before administering punishment. OP's son fails for not bringing the matter up with his teacher the day after being sentenced to two weeks hard time. OP's teacher fails for not double & triple checking their records before handing out an E. You should all apologize, because you're all sorry.

Pretty good summary.

What kid doesn't know that missing two homework assignments does not result in an F or in this case an "E"? If I saw anything like that I'd talk to the teacher the moment I found out. I understand they make mistakes and they are obviously willing to fix them if they are in the wrong.

I am reminded of a scene in the Simpsons episode Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington. "Lisa, after meeting your father, I've decided to award you an additional five points."

 

[Modelworks]

I'm really getting old. I have no idea what a E grade is. But then my teachers didn't input grades. They wrote them in pen

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I'm really getting old. I have no idea what a E grade is. But then my teachers didn't input grades. They wrote them in pen

Many elementary schools and even some middle schools don't use the standard A-F grading scale. IIRC my e-school had 3 grades: E-excellent, S-satisfactory, P-poor so E was exactly the opposite of the OP.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I'm really getting old. I have no idea what a E grade is. But then my teachers didn't input grades. They wrote them in pen

Many elementary schools and even some middle schools don't use the standard A-F grading scale. IIRC my e-school had 3 grades: E-excellent, S-satisfactory, P-poor so E was exactly the opposite of the OP.

yeah my daughters is something like this.

E-excellent
S+ above satisfactory
S satisfoctory
S- satisfactory but needs improvment
P poor

then there is check and check minus but can't remember what they were used for.

 

[soulcougher73]

What the hell is an E grade? I must be really old. We only had A, B, C, D, and F way back in 91 when i graduated HS.

 

[GasX]

I think the one and only apology here is Parent to child. You raised a son without either the spine or communications skills to defend himself against unfair treatment.

 

[wiredspider]

It sucks, but I don't think the teacher really needs to apologize. She probably doesn't even know it cost your child 2 weeks of activities. Think of it as a life lesson for your kid, don't necessarily need to accept everything at face value or something like that.

Edit: reading down further, I see he is in the 7th grade. At that level, you have some comprehension of your grades. I would have most certainly asked the teacher about why I'm failing, especially if it was being grounded for it. Even if not to find out, see what I could do about it, like making up those missed assignments.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: tyler811

Originally posted by: DrawninwarD
You grounded him for TWO weeks for failing Health? And that's some epic strict grounding man.

- Your son should have gone to see his teacher right after getting the report. I'd definitely inquire about randomly failing a class.
- You should ease up a bit dawg. Doesn't seem like your kid is a bad kid at all, you should be a little more forgiving.
- Teacher should be more careful, but shit happens. A few of my teachers in HS would enter incorrect grades.

Edit: I voted yes before fully reading the post. But that's because I thought that he was suspended or something by the school. I think I'd vote no now.

My son is the best just yesterday I was raking the yard and HE came outside and asked me if I wanted help. I have never missed a soccer game, band concert or swim lesson. A day never goes by that I do not hug him and tell him I love him at least twice a day. Even though he is in 7th grade I still wait with him for the bus. I asked him once if he wanted me stop because I thought it would be "uncool" in front of his friends. He was reply was no why I like you waiting me.

Now while he was grounded my wife and were there all time. Each night we would play cards or a board game just to reinforce the idea that even he was grounded it does not mean we do not love him or he dissappointed us

And yet I can't quite dismiss the fact that he was too cowed to successfully argue an obvious error with you.

That's kind of creepy, on the face of it.

This is the internet, OP, I don't know you. But . . . I can't help but think it's "take a long look in the mirror" time for you, based solely on what facts you've presented here.

Too cowed, or too passive?

 

[darkxshade]

First of all... who gives a grade of E?


Secondly... you grounded him for getting an E in health? With the obesity In America, E's the new A... get with the program.

 

[Fayd]

1: wtf is an E?

2: you grounded your kid without knowing any details? some parent.

3: the teacher should apologize for fucking up the grade. but that has no bearing on your overreacting and grounding your kid like a moron.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jamesbond007

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go.

I don't. Please explain.

You fail as a lifer. Please hand in your card on the way out.

Hey, don't blame me. I've never had a health class, let alone one that was taught by a female teacher.

dont worry. she might be really ugly.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Too cowed, or too passive?

Being cowed would lead to what would present as an oddly passive response but, yeah, I have no true idea if either word applies. I have zero first hand knowledge of this situation.

So, OP, I apologize if my responses come across as unduly judgmental or personal. This is the internet, take them for what they are.

Blame my 14 years as a PI fishing for info, but your son's response, as you related it to us, stuck out as odd and possibly telling, imho. <shrug>

Please note that your obvious love and caring for your son did, too. It's just that it also strikes me that it might be a little TOO much, too intense, too overbearing.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73
What the hell is an E grade? I must be really old. We only had A, B, C, D, and F way back in 91 when i graduated HS.

many schools have replaced F's with E's... makes sense if you think about it.

 

[So]

What the hell is an "E"? Is 50-60% a passing grade now or something?