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sdifox

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Originally posted by: tyler811
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Blame is on both. The teacher and You. For punishment i would double check everything. That and you said you can check online so its not as hard as it use to be.

So have YOU apologized?

Yes Marlin it is the cliffs.

and the actual detailed post has it too

Well okay I let it it go but parent/teacher conferences are today. I feel the teacher needs to apologize to him for mistake that cost him two weeks activitys. I have already told him I sorry because I could have checked online but I did not. I personally feel like shit about
this.
 

acheron

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My elementary school had A,B,C,D,E for grades 20+ years ago, it's not that new of a thing.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go. :D

EDIT: Oh, and seriously, why didn't you seek the online grade book sooner or ask the teacher about it right away instead of letting it slide so long? Personally, I would have asked for my son's story first and then call the teacher or school about it. Right away. ESPECIALLY if my son is normally in the A and B range...

Are we talking about this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/

I'm at work or I'd click the link with a bit more confidence...I know it's just IMDB, but I don't really wanna go there. ;) However, yes, I was thinking of a movie I saw as a kid, probably 15 years ago or more.

Link just points to Weird Science.
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: mcvickj
IMO the teacher doesn't owe anyone an apology. Mistakes will happen. You mention your son is an excellent student but you let a failing grade slide for 2 weeks before checking. I would have been on the phone with the teacher the same / following day asking about the grade before doling out any type of punishment.

QFT

If you can email your son's teachers that easliy after you caught the mistake, you should have sent her a quick email when you got the report card asking for a break down of the E.

IMO you dropped the ball more then she did. You already apologized for it, so you should just move on.

Did not let it slide for 2 weeks. When I saw the midterm report we as a family discussed it.

Now the 2 weeks comes from I had forgotten that we can check hos assignments online.
 

bsobel

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Give your son a 'get out of jail free card' good for one similar screwup in the future... Apologizing to him is more important than getting an apology from the teacher.
 

Gigantopithecus

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OP fails for not investigating a remarkably low grade before administering punishment. OP's son fails for not bringing the matter up with his teacher the day after being sentenced to two weeks hard time. OP's teacher fails for not double & triple checking their records before handing out an E. You should all apologize, because you're all sorry.
 
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Originally posted by: tyler811
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: mcvickj
IMO the teacher doesn't owe anyone an apology. Mistakes will happen. You mention your son is an excellent student but you let a failing grade slide for 2 weeks before checking. I would have been on the phone with the teacher the same / following day asking about the grade before doling out any type of punishment.

QFT

If you can email your son's teachers that easliy after you caught the mistake, you should have sent her a quick email when you got the report card asking for a break down of the E.

IMO you dropped the ball more then she did. You already apologized for it, so you should just move on.

Did not let it slide for 2 weeks. When I saw the midterm report we as a family discussed it.

Now the 2 weeks comes from I had forgotten that we can check hos assignments online.

You went that long without talking to the teacher. In your OP you say how out of place this is for your son and that he didn't even know where this came from. Seems to me that this either isn't that out of place and could have happened, or you go and talk to the teacher right away.
 

KK

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does she know you grounded the kid for 2 weeks because of the mistake? If not, then let her know you ground him for 2 weeks if you need an apology. Personally, I wouldn't sweat it. what's done is done. Take the boy to chucky cheese, or buy him a hooker and be done with it.
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Link just points to Weird Science.

Hmm...I am not sure if that was it, but the movie I am thinking of had a (hot) woman in her mid 20s that wore thigh-high white stalkings in class. UNF!
 

AreaCode707

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I think it's appropriate that the teacher is informed what the consequences were to your son and that she apologizes. However I don't think she needs to know how pissed you are. There's nothing in your posts that suggests she would not, when she understands, react reasonably. Chewing her out will probably make her defensive and blows this into a much bigger problem than it needs to be. "Hey, your oversight cost our son some special stuff and we just wanted to let you know. We'd like to reinforce that adults can make mistakes too and help him understand that the appropriate response to making mistakes is to fix it and apologize. Do you think you could help us do that by apologizing to him?"

I'd also reward your son with some special activities, both for doing well and also for reacting calmly (it seems) to discipline. Being able to swallow disappointment and man up for his punishment is a sign of maturity, and triply so when it wasn't deserved.

And yeah, you owe your son an apology too.
 

Perknose

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Now you have a poll, but where's your "Yes she should apologize but No, I shouldn't go demand one from her, on balance" option? ;)
 

dbk

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lol don't exaggerate.

If I had a kid and I had the ability to check on his grades - I would probably do it on a regular basis. Definitely when the grades come in.

p.s. An E grade? What happened to F? A, B, C, D, F
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: silverpig
Why you waited 2 weeks to check is beyond me... As soon as I saw that "E" I would have gone online to figure out what the problem was.
As soon as I saw an "E," I would have gone online to figure out what kind of grade "E" was.

"E" was an option for me since elementary school. I think in elementary school an "E" was 0-49%. In high school an "E" was 40-49, with an "F" below that. "E" kind of meant that you were failing but if you did some extra work you could get a 50 to pass.
 

MotionMan

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I think you totally over-reacted to a mid-term grade.

I think you should have talked more to your son more about why he got such an uncharacteristically bad grade to get a better picture of what might have happened.

I think you totally over-reacted to a mid-term grade.

I think you should have, after having the above talk, called or e-mailed the teacher about the situation, which would have resolved it early and your son would not have had to miss out on two weeks of his life.

I think you owe another apology to your son, because, I think you totally over-reacted to a mid-term grade.


BTW, if this is true:

Originally posted by: tyler811
He writes in planner everyday and we check it and his homework every day.

How did this happen?:

Originally posted by: tyler811
After some discussion he said that were a couple of homework items he did not turn in.

MotionMan
 

CRXican

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Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
OP fails for not investigating a remarkably low grade before administering punishment. OP's son fails for not bringing the matter up with his teacher the day after being sentenced to two weeks hard time. OP's teacher fails for not double & triple checking their records before handing out an E. You should all apologize, because you're all sorry.

Pretty good summary.

What kid doesn't know that missing two homework assignments does not result in an F or in this case an "E"? If I saw anything like that I'd talk to the teacher the moment I found out. I understand they make mistakes and they are obviously willing to fix them if they are in the wrong.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: silverpig
"E" kind of meant that you were failing but if you did some extra work you could get a 50 to pass.

:shocked:

<---- Sobs uncontrollably as the sad state of "education" today. :(

 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: DrawninwarD
You grounded him for TWO weeks for failing Health? And that's some epic strict grounding man.

- Your son should have gone to see his teacher right after getting the report. I'd definitely inquire about randomly failing a class.
- You should ease up a bit dawg. Doesn't seem like your kid is a bad kid at all, you should be a little more forgiving.
- Teacher should be more careful, but shit happens. A few of my teachers in HS would enter incorrect grades.

Edit: I voted yes before fully reading the post. But that's because I thought that he was suspended or something by the school. I think I'd vote no now.


My son is the best just yesterday I was raking the yard and HE came outside and asked me if I wanted help. I have never missed a soccer game, band concert or swim lesson. A day never goes by that I do not hug him and tell him I love him at least twice a day. Even though he is in 7th grade I still wait with him for the bus. I asked him once if he wanted me stop because I thought it would be "uncool" in front of his friends. He was reply was no why I like you waiting me.

Now while he was grounded my wife and were there all time. Each night we would play cards or a board game just to reinforce the idea that even he was grounded it does not mean we do not love him or he dissappointed us
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: tyler811
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: mcvickj
IMO the teacher doesn't owe anyone an apology. Mistakes will happen. You mention your son is an excellent student but you let a failing grade slide for 2 weeks before checking. I would have been on the phone with the teacher the same / following day asking about the grade before doling out any type of punishment.

QFT

If you can email your son's teachers that easliy after you caught the mistake, you should have sent her a quick email when you got the report card asking for a break down of the E.

IMO you dropped the ball more then she did. You already apologized for it, so you should just move on.

Did not let it slide for 2 weeks. When I saw the midterm report we as a family discussed it.

Now the 2 weeks comes from I had forgotten that we can check hos assignments online.
You could have also checked on it off line.

The teacher made a mistake; as long as the grade is corrected there is no foul from the school against the child.

If you need to be an SOB to compenstate for you jumping the gun and not following through, then mentioned it to the principal.

The issue seems to be more that you want to blame the teacher and get satisfaction from her for what you did rather than what she did.

 

Deeko

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My take....

-The biggest mistake here was by YOU. Your kid gets an unusually low grade, in a not-major class, on a meaningless mid-term progress report. He is surprised by this, but rather than investigate it, you punish him rather severely
-The teacher screwed up, and in her place I would have apologized - but you are in no place to be demanding it. You want an apology from the teacher to help make you feel better about how badly YOU fucked up on this one. Considering that online grade checking system is in place and you knew about it, you have no excuse for not checking before punishing.
-We had E's when I was in elementary school

Take it for what you will.
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: tyler811
Three weeks ago my son brought home his mid term progress report.


...


So we grounded him to the house with no PC, no cartoons, no phone calls, no friends and he could not go to his friends overnight B-Day party. Plus the next weekend he missed a school event at the high school swimming pool with games, pizza, friends and movies. Along with the other things I mentioned.

So it wasn't even a report card? I think you overreacted a bit. I could see blaming it on the teacher if it was, you know, maybe an actual report card, but a BS mid term progress report?

Poor kid was probably afraid to argue with you, otherwise I don't see why he didn't defend himself and explain that he should have had a higher grade.

As I have explained in other posts he did take the test and knew he grade on the test. HE DID NOT nor did we that the teacher did post the perfect score on the test in the grade book.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: tyler811

Did not let it slide for 2 weeks. When I saw the midterm report we as a family discussed it.

Now the 2 weeks comes from I had forgotten that we can check hos assignments online.

My god the irony is so thick in here I can barely read what I'm typing.

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