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HAL9000 said:
I've no idea, does barn rhyme with can or ban or fan in america, because over here it rhymes with palm or calm or darn or charm.
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you pronounce thusly?

"paahm"

"caahm,"

"dahhn"

"chaahm"

yes or no?

why can't you simply answer yes or no on this? you already said you pronounce it "aahm," but that you aren't dropping the "r"

what the fuck is it?
 
neackbeard: your inclusion of a and/or "h" does not change the "r" sound. You are dropping the "r" sound.

this is not unusual. this is...well-known. I have no idea why you so fundamentally reject the linguistic definition, and history, of your own damn accent.

http://members.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionaryclassic/chapters/pronunciation.php#rhotic

Rhotic r in American, non-rhotic r in British

Rhotic speakers will pronounce the r in barn, park, cart, fart, whereas non-rhotic speakers won�t, making no distinction between barn and (auto)bahn. Most of America is rhotic, with the notable exception of the Boston area and New York City. SE Britain is apparently the source of non-rhotic. England is non-rhotic, apart from the SW and some ever-diminishing northern areas. Scotland and Ireland are rhotic. In the movie The Princess Bride, the bishop (Peter Cook) over-emphasized the non-rhotic accent by loudly announcing �mawidge� (marriage), and Americans often joke about eastern New Englanders who �pahk the cah in Hahvahd yahd�.
In Britain, the non-rhotic accent gives rise to linking �r�s, where an otherwise unpronounced �r�, in �clear�, is pronounced if followed by a vowel, �clear away�. An intrusive �r� is an �r� added in such a situation where none actually exists, so �law and order� becomes �law ran order�. In some cases, there is even hypercorrection, such as adding an �r� (Louisa ® Louiser), especially when a non-rhotic person moves to a rhotic area. But if Clair hears the �r� she�ll correct you.
In contrast, in the North and Scotland, r�s roll stronger. Even d�s can be r�d. I�ve been called a /bluhreeiree?/ (bloody idiot) a few times.
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look at the bolded, particularly the larger text, that explains the addition of "r"

you don't need video to understand this. it is rote linguistics. If you can't, in your mind, imagine what "Louiser" sounds like, then you have no hope.
 
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HAL9000 said:
Christ, it's 2am and I can't be fucked to read all this, I skim read it and saw the words "bullshit" "idiot" "pathetic"... So I'm just going to assume it's some rant with a load of insults aimed at me, maybe I'll read it tomorrow.
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2 AM? You posted that just after 6PM! Another thing the Brits get wrong!!








:biggrin:
 
zinfamous said:
neackbeard: your inclusion of a and/or "h" does not change the "r" sound. You are dropping the "r" sound.

this is not unusual. this is...well-known. I have no idea why you so fundamentally reject the linguistic definition, and history, of your own damn accent.

http://members.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionaryclassic/chapters/pronunciation.php#rhotic



look at the bolded, particularly the larger text, that explains the addition of "r"

you don't need video to understand this. it is rote linguistics. If you can't, in your mind, imagine what "Louiser" sounds like, then you have no hope.
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You can continue to post theoretical definitions of how you think I speak, but without hearing it I have no idea what you are talking about, saying that I say an R at the end of words, no matter how "well known" means absolutely shit, when i've never heard it before, if you can't find any video proof just say so.
 
WHAT. IS. THIS.

There is no way Brits drop the "r" like New Englanders. Then again, I haven't cared too much to listen closely to how people here say "barn".
 
HAL9000 said:
You can continue to post theoretical definitions of how you think I speak, but without hearing it I have no idea what you are talking about, saying that I say an R at the end of words, no matter how "well known" means absolutely shit, when i've never heard it before, if you can't find any video proof just say so.
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this is about the British dialect. not about "you."

we've said this throughout the thread.

get your head out of your ridiculous arse.


You aren't all of Britannia, despite what all your dreams tell you.
 
zinfamous said:
this is about the British dialect. not about "you."

we've said this throughout the thread.

get your head out of your ridiculous arse.


You aren't all of Britannia, despite what all your dreams tell you.
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Quite true, and as I've said time and time again, I have no idea what you are Talking about with "chiner" etc, and without a video or audio proof I never will, all the theory in the world wont show me what you think you are hearing
 
zinfamous said:
just saying, it wasn't meant to be a shot to the chin.


....but don't forget to brush before you hit the sack.

:hmm:
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Double entendre'ed. Shot to the chin, brush before you hit the sack. :biggrin:

This is a classic trolloff. Hal being his usual self, and Zin transforming him into a Boston douchebag.
 
So this thread went from being how some British add R's to words to how one Briton likes to argue with everyone about how he never notices anything?
 
foghorn67 said:
Yes, they do. And it's horrible.
The letter Z is "zair."

I have no "idear."

Have you driven that "zair R1?"

What a butchery.
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My dad was born and raised in the Bay Area and has never lived anywhere else.

For some reason, he has always said "idear."

It is the only word he does that with.

MotionMan
 
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