People don't care about Benghazi!

[brycejones]

Fox appears to get some things through, doesn't mean all the mainstream media is bad, but it doesn't mean im not going to praise fox as it can turn the other way in a moment, usually it's the local affiliates that report on many stuff the nationals don't, but at least FOX it's not as tightly influenced such as MSNBC is.

There is way more freedom out there than you can see, did you know probably a third of hollywood is secretly libertarian and knows about the elite, the players, who don't make decisions, but they are kept on a leash by a few big studio boss heads, ofcourse, nobody of those really admits being pro-freedom and yes they listen to the Alex Jones Show as well, we know Bruce Willis (1) and Chuck Norris (1,2,3,4) are listeners, it was also revealed through a friend that Tom Clancy was a listener.

Speaking of Bhengazi, in a nutshell, obama and hillary ordered a standdown so al-kaida could kill stevens in order to get a reason for libyan intervention, all the "rebels" crying for NATO help were actually agents, gadaffi wasn't shooting it's own people, he knew it was al-kaida (US/Saudi/Israel proxy force), it is a type of false flag, part of a problem-reaction-solution.

Libya was how free before?

 

[HomerJS]

It's funny that FOX News has unlimited Benghazi coverage, but CNN might show maybe a 5 minute clip.

Sunday show Fox news spent half their time on Benghazi. Two way bigger stories this week the botched execution and Donald Sterling they didn't touch.

Their true believers think racism doesn't exist and love capital punishment.

 

[brycejones]

Sunday show Fox news spent half their time on Benghazi. Two way bigger stories this week the botched execution and Donald Sterling they didn't touch.

Their true believers think racism doesn't exist and love capital punishment.

Correction they believe racism exists but it is everyone out to get whitey.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No wonder Fox has high ratings, people are watching them to see what's they're saying and/or hoping to catch them make a mistake

 

[cabri]

Sunday show Fox news spent half their time on Benghazi. Two way bigger stories this week the botched execution and Donald Sterling they didn't touch.

Their true believers think racism doesn't exist and love capital punishment.

The botched execution was not anything to become concerned about.
The state did the job expected.
The inmate deserved the death penalty; he attempted to circumvent the punishment and failed.
If there was pain; it was due to the actions of the anti-death penalty crowd and the inmate. The state followed the procedures laid down for "more humane" treatment.

Why is Sterling such a big deal?
You have a business person that spouted off racial remarks. No one will deny that there are racist still in the country; however, he has demonstrated that one can separate race issues from business issues.
It is the social crowd that seems to have a problem with such.

People/businesses that interacted with him reacted according to their own rules and beliefs. Some bailed, others ignored the issue and did not considered it a big deal.

The Clippers games were still played.
The fans still showed up for the game.
The players were still there.

 

[HomerJS]

The botched execution was not anything to become concerned about.
The state did the job expected.
The inmate deserved the death penalty; he attempted to circumvent the punishment and failed.
If there was pain; it was due to the actions of the anti-death penalty crowd and the inmate. The state followed the procedures laid down for "more humane" treatment.

Why is Sterling such a big deal?
You have a business person that spouted off racial remarks. No one will deny that there are racist still in the country; however, he has demonstrated that one can separate race issues from business issues.
It is the social crowd that seems to have a problem with such.

People/businesses that interacted with him reacted according to their own rules and beliefs. Some bailed, others ignored the issue and did not considered it a big deal.

The Clippers games were still played.
The fans still showed up for the game.
The players were still there.

If done correctly you can't prevent drugs from working. So the state used an experimental cocktail, procedure begins to go wrong , they attempt to stop the execution and revive him, and this isn't a story?

What would they have done if he had lived?

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar found an interesting stat, more white people believe in ghosts then believe racism exists. You might not like the story but it is big. Should have made headlines when he paid out the largest racial housing discrimination suit in history.

 

[cabri]

If done correctly you can't prevent drugs from working. So the state used an experimental cocktail, procedure begins to go wrong , they attempt to stop the execution and revive him, and this isn't a story?

What would they have done if he had lived?

The state used the cocktail because the do-gooders prevented the supply of what was known to work.
At some point, experiments need to go from the lab to the field trials.

The person was sentenced to death; where did it say in the sentence that he was to have no pain.

His vein failed (due to his deliberate own doing); not that the drug cocktail did not work. Enough made it into his system to start the process but not finish the process.

Had he lived; he should have been executed again unless granted a reprieve. The same way, the system would normally work.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar found an interesting stat, more white people believe in ghosts then believe racism exists. You might not like the story but it is big. Should have made headlines when he paid out the largest racial housing discrimination suit in history.

The fine did not make major headlines because it was not considered to a publicity worthy.

A person circumvents the law, gets caught and fined. Case closed.

The difference was in the venue that this issue happened. Professional sports want their image to be squeaky clean. The publicity that was generated prevented it from being swept under the rug.

 

[boomerang]

No wonder Fox has high ratings, people are watching them to see what's they're saying and/or hoping to catch them make a mistake

Ouch! :awe:

 

[rudder]

People don't care about Benghazi,.. unless it's associated with Obama.

Now, Bush, he can Benghazi all up in this mother fucker and no one will blink; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/13-benghazis-that-occurre_b_3246847.html

How exactly are these similar to Benghazi? Benghazi was not an embassy or a consulate. Where any of those sites in that article staging grounds for moving local weapons to Syria?

 

[rudder]

Sunday show Fox news spent half their time on Benghazi. Two way bigger stories this week the botched execution and Donald Sterling they didn't touch.

Their true believers think racism doesn't exist and love capital punishment.

You forgot the story about Kim Kardashians new butt implants... that was a very big story as well. Executions are not as smooth now as the tried and true method of drug cocktails are no longer available. And most of the civilized world already knew Sterling was a racist because he was sued paid a large fine for not allowing blacks to rent in one of his apartments. Suddenly a private conversation gets released and racism is huge news?

Matt1970 was right.... people like you are watching Foxnews just to bitch and complain about Foxnews.

 

[boomerang]

Homer always makes claims about FOX concerning what they broadcast that are totally and wholly unsubstantiated. And he typically follows it up with some racist remark that he pulled from his ass.

People, why are you even paying any attention?

 

[Fern]

Sunday show Fox news spent half their time on Benghazi. Two way bigger stories this week the botched execution and Donald Sterling they didn't touch.

Their true believers think racism doesn't exist and love capital punishment.

I don't watch Fox new's (nor any others) Sunday news shows but seems to me if would have been on last week. That story was about 10 days ago (4/25 IIRC).

I think it can reasonably argued that Fox News spends too much time on Benghazi, but at least that story carries national interest (meaning national security interest etc are of import to us all). I'm not sure that can be said of said of some rich guy misbehaving and the ensuing fight among certain members of a highly private club composed of .01%'ers. It's a sports story and has already been covered ad nauseam on the sports channels.

What's really left to discuss about it? Does anybody really want to take Sterling's side?

Fern

 

[HomerJS]

The state used the cocktail because the do-gooders prevented the supply of what was known to work.
At some point, experiments need to go from the lab to the field trials.

The person was sentenced to death; where did it say in the sentence that he was to have no pain.

His vein failed (due to his deliberate own doing); not that the drug cocktail did not work. Enough made it into his system to start the process but not finish the process.

Had he lived; he should have been executed again unless granted a reprieve. The same way, the system would normally work.



The fine did not make major headlines because it was not considered to a publicity worthy.

A person circumvents the law, gets caught and fined. Case closed.

The difference was in the venue that this issue happened. Professional sports want their image to be squeaky clean. The publicity that was generated prevented it from being swept under the rug.

Actually do-gooders had nothing to do with it. Companies who supplied the drugs didn't want to do it anymore and more doctors were refusing to administer.

As for the failed vein if you administer saline iv and setup in both arms that won't happen. But they failed to follow protocol.

I believe if you survive an execution it can't be done twice.

 

[HomerJS]

Homer always makes claims about FOX concerning what they broadcast that are totally and wholly unsubstantiated. And he typically follows it up with some racist remark that he pulled from his ass.

People, why are you even paying any attention?

Queue up the Hannity and Bundy shows and you just owned yourself.

 

[HomerJS]

No wonder Fox has high ratings, people are watching them to see what's they're saying and/or hoping to catch them make a mistake

and McDonalds is the #1 restaurant in the country. That proves what??

 

[Thebobo]

Queue up the Hannity and Bundy shows and you just owned yourself.

Bundy has a fox show?

Oh and Benghazi!

 

[schmuckley]

nobody cares, because they understand we had it coming...

just like in Iran in 78'

Hah! Obama and Carter have a lot in common.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKPulvTrKr4 This was popular.

The song is in response to terrorists kidnapping a whole plane full of people.
They released them the day Ronald Reagan was sworn in.

 

[Fern]

-snip-
I believe if you survive an execution it can't be done twice.

At one time I believe that was true. But the law was changed after a failed attempt left a convicted murderer free. The phrase "until you are dead" or the like was added to sentences.

Was it changed back again?

Fern

 

[cabri]

Actually do-gooders had nothing to do with it. Companies who supplied the drugs didn't want to do it anymore and more doctors were refusing to administer.

As for the failed vein if you administer saline iv and setup in both arms that won't happen. But they failed to follow protocol.

I believe if you survive an execution it can't be done twice.

Companies that no longer will sell the drugs to the state used to. What changed - their moral compass under pressure from the anti-death penalty proponents.

As to the procedure; it has worked before; the vein blew out because the inmate had deliberately affected it in order to forestall the sentence. There may have been a work around; however, why would the people administering the drug have to plan on needing it.

If inmates were to be medically supervised once placed on death watch; there would be complaints from the opponents in that case.

Execution survival rules are up to the state laws I would expect. They determine when an person is officially dead.

 

[Bowfinger]

[ ... ]
As to the procedure; it has worked before; the vein blew out because the inmate had deliberately affected it in order to forestall the sentence. ...

You keep repeating this claim. I don't suppose there's the slightest chance you can actually cite a credible source supporting it, is there? Nothing I've read suggests anything of the sort.

 

[emperus]

I don't watch Fox new's (nor any others) Sunday news shows but seems to me if would have been on last week. That story was about 10 days ago (4/25 IIRC).

I think it can reasonably argued that Fox News spends too much time on Benghazi, but at least that story carries national interest (meaning national security interest etc are of import to us all). I'm not sure that can be said of said of some rich guy misbehaving and the ensuing fight among certain members of a highly private club composed of .01%'ers. It's a sports story and has already been covered ad nauseam on the sports channels.

What's really left to discuss about it? Does anybody really want to take Sterling's side?

Fern

Well, I guess that is all it was. Just some rich guy misbehaving. It's also guite hilarious how you talk about ad nausea coverage in regards to Sterling. Yet Benghazi has been going over for over 2 damn years. Enlighten me what is the scandal the administration has been trying to cover up that merits 2 years of coverage?

Not every time that bad things happen is there some outright negligence by someone. Sometimes the terrorists do win a battle. That's what happens in a war.

 

[HomerJS]

At one time I believe that was true. But the law was changed after a failed attempt left a convicted murderer free. The phrase "until you are dead" or the like was added to sentences.

Was it changed back again?

Fern

Then why did the state try to revive him??

 

[cabri]

Then why did the state try to revive him??

Ask the state. such info may not be provided automatically.

Then ask why do they put inmates on a death watch before execution? If they want to cheat the state by suicide, let why do not they them.

 

[IGBT]

the obama willing accomplices in the obama media don't care. But they will have to circle the wagons again and come up with a sacrificial offering in an attempt to save your obama.

 

[ivwshane]

the obama willing accomplices in the obama media don't care. But they will have to circle the wagons again and come up with a sacrificial offering in an attempt to save your obama.

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